April 11, 2017 at 8:32 am #1415
I just went away for a retreat in the forest by myself and it didn’t go as well as i’d liked, so i have another question about how others practice.
In Mantak Chia’s book he goes through 3 ways of doing iron shirt 1. They all start off the same with the kidneys and belt channel, but then 1 just goes from belly button, to sexual center to perineum then out the legs. Number 2 brings energy from earth up legs to meet and perineum. Number 3 is like 2 but continues on to several points along the spine.
So i’m wondering, if I do 6 repetitions should this be 2x of each version, or 1x ver1, 1x ver2, and 4x ver3? Or do you continually do one version 6x?
Thanks for any replies.April 16, 2017 at 2:23 pm #1433
Because there are some rocketry themed illustrations in the first Iron Shirt book, one might ask why not also to study some rocket science?
HOWDYApril 17, 2017 at 12:13 am #1434
Sorry for my broken English.
In general my suggestion is to learn more varied and functional system of breathing practices for the breath suspension.
For the alchemical process it would be important to understand that for example the Chi Nei Tsang is not necessarily primarily for therapy, but for hands-on training and manipulation for body’s various systems.
HOWDYApril 17, 2017 at 6:01 am #1436
ThanksApril 18, 2017 at 3:53 pm #1437
In the end, I think, if some practice doesn’t make sense in some situation, one should look what else there is available in the alchemical toolbox and choose something new.
What would seem to be missing here is what Carlos Castaneda calls ‘recapitulation’ and L. Ron Hubbard ‘returning’.
Whatever one calls it, it’s not only important practice, but the most important faculty to start with.
In my opinion.
HOWDYApril 19, 2017 at 6:57 am #1440
In topology and related areas of mathematics, a subset A of a topological space X is called dense (in X) if every point x in X either belongs to A or is a limit point of A. Informally, for every point in X, the point is either in A or arbitrarily “close” to a member of A — for instance, every real number is either a rational number or has one arbitrarily close to it (see Diophantine approximation). Formally, a subset A of a topological space X is dense in X if for any point x in X, any neighborhood of x contains at least one point from A (i.e., A has non-empty intersection with every non-empty open subset of X). Equivalently, A is dense in X if and only if the only closed subset of X containing A is X itself. This can also be expressed by saying that the closure of A is X, or that the interior of the complement of A is empty.The density of a topological space X is the least cardinality of a dense subset of X.
…I just went away for a retreat in the forest by myself and it didn’t go as well as i’d liked…
In my opinion developing one’s memory is so essential, because it’s not only past (Hubbard’s time track) which becomes again available more and more cleared, but in the present moment one develops something which is able to decimate gabs on the real line or maybe catch up anyway often enough what would become moments of irrationality on the real line.
It’s that which not only catalogues, but also chooses from that which is available in one’s alchemical arsenal/toolkit.
Sorry for my broken English.
Below: Scientology 0-8 (From zero to infinity)
In geometry, a real projective line is an extension of the usual concept of line that has been historically introduced to solve a problem set by visual perspective: two parallel lines do not intersect but seem to intersect “at infinity”. For solving this problem, points at infinity have been introduced, in such a way that in a real projective plane, two distinct projective lines meet in exactly one point. The set of these points at infinity, the “horizon” of the visual perspective in the plane, is a real projective line. It is the circle of directions emanating from an observer situated at any point, with opposite points identified. A model of the real projective line is the projectively extended real line. Drawing a line to represent the horizon in visual perspective, an additional point at infinity is added to represent the collection of lines parallel to the horizon.April 20, 2017 at 11:41 am #1446
Sorry, but if one is serious with these Iron Shirt practices, I think it’s worth checking also this book.
Evidently it’s not very entertaining to read as a book and also many techniques are worth only for somebody who performs in freak show, but it can still give ideas how to construct an ideal Iron Shirt curriculum for oneself.
HOWDYApril 29, 2017 at 8:47 am #1467
MMmm yeah i remember seeing some hardcore street performances when i was living in china. Sticking hooks and stuff into their body and under their skin. Bit over the top for me haha 🙂May 4, 2017 at 2:33 am #1479
having or showing an attitude of superiority and contempt for people or things perceived to be inferior
Gyalpo spirits are one of the eight classes of haughty gods and spirits (Wylie: lha srin sde brgyad) in Tibetan mythology and religion. Gyalpo (Tibetan: རྒྱལ་པོ, Wylie: rgyal po), a word which simply means “king” in the Tibetic languages, in Tibetan mythology is used to refer to the Four Heavenly Kings (Tibetan: རྒྱལ་ཆེན་བཞི) and especially to a class of spirits, both Buddhist and Bon, who may be either malevolent spirits or oath-bound as dharmapalas (Wylie: chos skyong, bon skyong).
In general one cannot say that the class of Gyalpo are always negative. There are also some important Gyalpo guardians. For example, Guru Padmasambhava gave the task of protecting the temple of Samye to Gyalpo Pehar. So it is not negative at all. But then, regarding the Gyalpo, there are different levels and it is very important for us to understand the character of the Gyalpo and how they create provocations because each of the eight classes has their own way of provocating…because when someone is connected with the Gyalpo, they are transformed and become subject to them. When these people die they become part of the class of Gyalpo. The life of a Gyalpo may last for five or six thousand years so for that reason it is considered something very negative… this kind of spirit becomes dependent on the class of Gyalpo. That means if they are a bit powerful they can become a kind of Gyalpo and can do something. Instead somebody less powerful becomes only a subject (victim) of the Gyalpo.
The study, which assessed the impact of meditation with 82 participants who experience anxiety, found that developing an awareness of the present moment reduced incidents of repetitive, off-task thinking, a hallmark of anxiety.
“Our results indicate that mindfulness training may have protective effects on mind wandering for anxious individuals,” said Mengran Xu, a researcher and PhD candidate at Waterloo. “We also found that meditation practice appears to help anxious people to shift their attention from their own internal worries to the present-moment external world, which enables better focus on a task at hand.”
The term mindfulness is commonly defined as paying attention on purpose, in the present moment, and without judgement.
As part of the study, participants were asked to perform a task on a computer while experiencing interruptions to gauge their ability to stay focused on the task. Researchers then put the participants into two groups at random, with the control group given an audio story to listen to and the other group asked to engage in a short meditation exercise prior to being reassessed.
“Mind wandering accounts for nearly half of any person’s daily stream of consciousness,” said Xu. “For people with anxiety, repetitive off-task thoughts can negatively affect their ability to learn, to complete tasks, or even function safely.
“It would be interesting to see what the impacts would be if mindful meditation was practiced by anxious populations more widely.”
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Mengran Xu, Christine Purdon, Paul Seli, Daniel Smilek. Mindfulness and mind wandering: The protective effects of brief meditation in anxious individuals. Consciousness and Cognition, 2017; 51: 157 DOI: 10.1016/j.concog.2017.03.009May 5, 2017 at 2:33 pm #1482
Why didn’t it go well, can you be specific about what went wrong, what you expected, and what you are trying to do and why ?May 7, 2017 at 9:19 am #1486
L. Ron Hubbard discovered that the mind has two very distinct parts. One of these—the part that you consciously use and are aware of—is called the analytical mind. This is the portion of the mind which thinks, observes data, remembers it and resolves problems. It has standard memory banks which contain mental image pictures and uses the data in these banks to make decisions that promote survival. -http://www.scientology.org/what-is-dianetics/basic-principles-of-scientology/the-parts-of-the-mind.html
There is a method of “thinking” which man did not know he had. -L. RON HUBBARD, Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health (BOOK THREE: THERAPY, Ch. 5: Returning, the File Clerk and the Time Track)
Sorry, but I suspect that if one expects to get results very quickly, but it’s not like that with the internal alchemy, one easily becomes confused.
HOWDYMay 7, 2017 at 3:36 pm #1487
Human beings do not really expect results, nor demand them.
And that is why they fail.
And that is why the species is heading for extinction.
To expect results triggers your responsibility and meeting of reality.
And humans are terrified to live.May 10, 2017 at 12:49 am #1493
In hindsight, I guess it did go well, but it didn’t go as expected. I hadn’t had the opportunity to go meditating in my tent (i used to always go for 10 days) for years due to family commitments, and had just been practicing in life as general. I had been waiting for this opportunity for years, and expected that my increased experience now would let me get even higher and experience something new along the same lines as when i went last time. However i guess i was practicing differently so got different results.
I ended up leaving after 5 days. I guess i kind of realised that it was pointless putting myself through all the difficutlities of sitting there for hours on end, when the results of the practice wouldn’t last anyhow. I guess i’ve still got my memories of my experiences when I used to practice lots, but its the mindset.
I’ve always strived for perfection in everything, but getting older i’m starting to realise it’s not worth all the effort, and there is more to life than perfection. What i did take away is the importance of gradual change, perhaps like the seasons, yet each summer is not quiet like the last. As a Bowen Therapist i also carried this thought through to my clients and how the treatments always need to be a little different. How their repetitive activities cause too bolder changes in the fascia, and they need to do something different. Opposite works best for a while, but then it’s just back and forth, it needs to go around like the seasons. Similarly i realized like the huge amounts of research done, has informed top athletes that they need to keep changing their training.
So then what i really took away is that I need to vary and change my repetative lifestyle. Something as simple as changing activities ever so slightly day after day could have the same result as hours of meditative practice. It could be a much simpler physical method of attaining balance.
Also the method i’ve always relied on, especially beginning healing tao some 12+ years ago, building up from the ground doesn’t always hold true. 1+1+1 doesn’t always = 3, it could =2, 1, 4 or 6. Perhaps the base i’m building on moves, or the spirit changes things out of nowhere. The stability of grounding can be a facade, and it doesn’t always give the control that it seems to promise. But control of your life from the spirit is impossible, i don’t do what i want to do, it seems like there is a big gap there. All the times i’ve had effortless control of my body from the soul have only been short lived. So then do I give up my goals and not worry about acheiving what I want or desire? But then if there are some goals I want, wouldn’t it be a waste of life to ignore them? Sometimes i really do wonder if cultivation is important at all. I mean i’m sitting here today with a cold. I haven’t been sick like this in around 4 years, and using cultivation and herbs/foods i’m coming out of it pretty easy for a strong cold, but it’s still knocking me around spiritually because i haven’t had one for ages. Back before i started cultivating when i was younger i got sick every month or two and they used to hammer my physically, but spiritually i was used to them and they didn’t effect me so much. so… am i really better off? Perhaps i’ve overdeveloped the physical and the spiritual but let the heart get left behind. That was indeed a goal, to work on the heart before i went but i guess even with a written reminder i got carried away with what was familiar an tried to work on the heart from the perspectives of the physical and the spirit. Using voltage and amps rather than the colours of the rainbow. But perhaps i can achieve this through a continually changing lifestyle….
Of course now i need to put this all into practice and test it out in the real world…. but we’ll see.
Since i came back i watched the second lot of star wars’s, episodes 1-3, and really enjoyed them. They seemed more deeply connected to laws of the tao than the older episodes 4-6, as if George Lucas’s understanding has developed more as he’s aged. I was expecting to be disappointed but i was really impressed. 🙂
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