Learn the original 800 year old lineage form of Chang San Feng, the 13th century founder of Tai Chi. This 15 minute form is easy to learn, yet uniquely powerful. It’s totally different from tai chi martial or soft “health” styles taught today.
Its ancient name was “wuji gong”. It literally means “develops skill for entering the Supreme Mystery”. It is often translated as “Primordial Qigong” or “Primordial Tai Chi”. Qigong is the historical Mother of Tai Chi. It was done for health and spiritual development, and is much older than Tai Chi done for martial self-defense. Primordial Qigong/Tai Chi for Enlightenment was China’s best kept secret & until now. Please read my letter below describing my discovery of this magical form from Wudang Mountain.
— Michael Winn
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Welcome. How lucky you are! You’ve stumbled onto a magical opportunity, perhaps one of the most important in your entire life. For 35 years I have hunted down the secrets of Enlightenment from dozens of spiritual teachers. I tested many meditation systems from ancient mystery schools around the planet – China, India, Greece, Egypt, Africa, and shamans living near the North Pole. I found them all valuable. Some are better suited to busy modern Westerners. Of these, only a few deal with the problem of both the Body and the Spirit. Or have a practical, systematic way to access the energy field that connects them. I was seeking a path that works simultaneously on healing both body and soul.
My name is Michael Winn. I want to share with you the creme de la creme of my discoveries. You
have the opportunity to experience the living transmission from a team of great Enlightened
Tao masters. You may experience their spiritual presence by simply doing an elegant Tai
Chi for Enlightenment form for 15 minutes. The team of Tao masters I am referring to is led
by the Grandmaster of all Tai Chi masters, the Taoist sage Chang San Feng.
About 800 years ago Chang San Feng was the founder of the original Tai Chi Chuan 13-movement
form for self-defense. It was a gentle form focused on the yielding principles of the Tao, so
monks could defend themselves from bandits without falling into aggressive killing techniques
that would spoil their spiritual path.
But few are aware that Grandmaster Chang San Feng created a second short form that applied tai
chi for enlightenment rather than self-defense. It also has 13 movements: 12 movements of
Earth and one movement of Heaven that is done 50 times, ten times in each of the five
directions. It was secretly practiced by a lineage of Taoist masters for the last 800 years.
This secret Tai Chi for Enlightenment or Primordial Qigong form was taught to me
by the 81-year old Zhu Hui, a kindly Chinese master with a smile that made your heart melt. (You
can see him in the video). He says the form cured his liver cancer and protected him from
violent abuse during the Cultural Revolution. He learned it from a 106-year old Taoist Master Li
Tong, who lived on Wudang Mountain. Zhu Hui was the national tai chi sword champion of China
when he was younger, and Master Li Tong took a liking to him.
Wudang Mountain is where Chang San Feng lived in the 13th century, a mystical mountain
recently made famous by the film Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. In his time Chang
San Feng was mostly famous as a spiritual sage and adept of inner alchemy, not as a martial
artist. The Emperor of China sent 30,000 men to build a temple on Wudang Mountain, just to curry
favor with him. Refusing to appear at the Imperial court, Chang San Feng instead disappeared at
age 95 into the wild Wudang Mountains. He then, according to written records, re-appeared
regularly for hundreds of years afterward to teach people the secrets of the Tao. This
reappearing act is how he got a reputation for being a “Tao immortal”.
Tai Chi for Enlightenment was never taught to outsiders until a few years ago. I am one
of the first teachers certified to teach it in the West. In China it was kept secret for 800
years mostly because it was considered too powerful to be released to an untrained public.
Fortunately for us, times have changed. This secret tai chi form has now escaped from China’s
mystical mountains and can be at your doorstep within days of your ordering this remarkable and
beautiful video, filmed in powerful wild mountain and lake locations.
ORDER NOW (express your Inner Will!)
Praise for Michael Winn’s “Tai Chi for Enlightenment”
Just Amazing! Totally in a Class of its Own
I have practiced Chen style taiji, 24, 42 and 48 style standardized forms, two different styles of bagua zhang. I found the Tai Chi for Enlightenment form is the most completing and satisfying form I have ever encountered and totally in a class of its own. I look forward to, and love to practice it!
Physically it is also a great form for free hip movement, that is the basis of initiating full body movement in most internal styles. I like your analysis of martial styles that are lacking spiritual basis. My Fu style bagua I like for its animal twisting, coiling and stretching movements, but the guy who created it, Fu Zhen Song was apparently quite a vicious dude.
For meditation, it is just amazing, and has brought me intuitive guidance in areas I would have never imagined. It creates a deep sense of balance and harmony within my body and even my environment that I feel throughout the day.
Pearl of Great Price: The Deepest Practice I've Found
After 25 years of intense study and practice using vedic formulas, Hindu pujas, Gurdjeiff methods of cosmology, kriya yogic pranayamas, advanced sanskrit mantras, I have never found any method that produces the effect in such a short time as primordial qigong/tai chi for enlightenment. For me, the effects are observable on all levels; from an obvious realignment of events in life around me (way beyond what anyone could consider to be coincidence), to dramatically enhanced physical energy and an intimate attunement with the body; to a deep opening of the energy/spiritual body.
I am most pleased with the deeper effects - several times during my 25 years of practices, I've been able to access a "field" during meditation where it is as if a huge storm arises both around me and from within. The first time it happened some 20 years ago, I was in a meditation temple at an ashram, late at night, winter subfreezing temperatures, in the north Georgia mountains. The sky was crystal clear when I entered the temple but after several hours of deep meditation I heard this storm approaching. The sound of wind and rain was gradually amplifying so I knew I didn't have much time to make it back to my room on the other side of the grounds. I quickly wrapped myself up in my wool blanket to make a mad dash back to the building I was living in at the time.
However, when I opened the door to exit the temple, lo and behold, it was the same crystal clear night! I was a bit shocked but went back inside and let the experience continue - the sounds were clear and distinguishable: the steady hum of the "OMMM" underneath the sounds of a torent of wind and water. Along with this was the profound awareness of benevolent presence that is difficult to put in to words. This has happened a dozen or so times since then and I now understand this 'the thunder of silence'. What I've discovered with the primordial tai chi is this same 'thunder of silence' is almost immediately accessed or perhaps better put, unveiled, during the practice. This is, to me, "the pearl of great price".
Note: I work as a scientist monitoring states of consciousness. I've helped pioneer the brainwave biofeedback applications used today for addictions, depression disorders, head injury rehab, ADD and ADHD, post Traumatic Stress Disorder, Chronic Fatigue/fibromyalgia and developmental disorders, to name a few. So I feel my observations about this form are not whimsical or "merely personal"
My partner and I have already shared the form with some friends and fellow seekers. All have immediately experienced the magic of this formula. We have decided to start a Sunday night practice group here in Atlanta for our interested friends.
The Easiest & Most Complete Tai Chi Form Ever
I sweated for years to learn a short form of Yang family (martial) Tai Chi, but gave it up because I didn't feel I was really getting anywhere deep. Then one day when I arrived at a Healing Tao summer retreat in New York's Catskills, I saw some people swinging their arms and doing a form that looked so pleasantly simple and happy. I instantly knew "this is my form". It was the Tai Chi for Enlightenment form, or Primordial Chi Kung.
It is the easiest form I ever learned. I learned the form within an hour and refined it the next day. It is the most complete form I ever experienced. Over a few years time I gradually stopped doing other forms. I feel all other forms are integrated by this Primordial Tai Chi. With time it only gets better.
What I love most is that it connects me with all physical and spiritual aspects of myself. While doing the form I experience the blessing of naturally creating a wonderful new spiraling DNA energy within myself.
I'm a HUGE Fan - having Spiritual Orgasm after Orgasm!
I've been living at Silent Ground Taoist Retreat in Canada for 6 years. To put it simply..... I am a HUGE, HUGE fan of the Tai Chi Enlightenment/Primordial Qigong form. When we first got your video I sat there watching the TV having orgasm after orgasm !!! Not the regular kind, the Taoist kind of in-your-body spiritual orgasm - just from watching the sequence of movements. Doing the movements was obviously even better!
Sometimes when I practice I feel a group of sages gathers round to watch and they are all smiling! At times only a few show up, and sometimes I'm completely surrounded!!! They kind of float or hover around in a circle.
It is so smooth and effortless, and things just happen so easily practicing it, its like getting a really good deal from the universe! I could never be told another thing about it and happily practice it for the rest of my life. But I'm curious about how your new audio tapes could make it even "deeper". Minke, the owner of Silent Ground, is also a big fan of the form. Thank you for sharing Tai Chi Enlightenment. I'll keep spreading it around with joy and pleasure!
Wow! An Exhilarating Feeling! Quiets my Monkey Mind
I studied 24-step Tai Chi Chuan, but had difficulty practicing at home due to limited floor space. Then I learned Tai Chi for Enlightenment from your video, and can practice it anywhere in 4 square feet. After practicing for some months I observe my Monkey Mind (inner dialog) is growing quiet and I feel all tingly inside. Wow! What an exhilarating feeling!
Practicing Primordial Qigong/ Tai Chi For Enlightenment is great for starting the day, or as a getaway break during the day. Now I can practice in the kitchen, or at the local state park by the lake or on a hiking trail... Doing it, I can feel the strong earth Qi in a natural setting.
It helps me to keep my life simple. I can leave this make-believe world that we call planet earth, and go to the realm of the spirit for a while with this particular form...very relaxing.
Michael Winn does an excellent job, in the video and on the summary sheet included, of explaining the "how's" and "why's" of the form. Practicing helps me remain grounded and centered in the moment, where life truly exists, on the path to happiness.
This Form Opens Chi Flow Better than Yang Tai Chi
I personally like the Primordial Chi Kung because it is a much gentler energy.
The feedback I get from friends and family that I have taught both your tai chi enlightenment/primordial form and the original 13 movement ynag style Tai Chi Chi Kung, is that they are able to feel the chi much quicker using the Primordial Chi Kung form. In doing primordial chi kung you can concentrate on the chi flow instead of keeping your mind busy on all the components necessary for Tai Chi Chi Kung. Even those learning the Yang Style, will begin class with the Primordial Chi Kung form. It greatly improves their tai chi.
I find people can learn the Primordial Chi Kung in four or five sessions and are experiencing movement of chi by the end of the second lesson. Those friends who are into healing or other metaphysical practices love it because it enhances the energy of their other practices. Both myself and my students find it much easier to access and move chi using the primordial chi kung.
I find the biggest problem in getting people interested is that no one seems to believe you can learn such a powerful form in only four or five sessions. One of my students at the high school is the father of a tai chi teacher. He said she told him not to bother taking my class because it was impossible to learn a form in four weeks. By the end of the class, he said he was going home to teach it to her.
I Did Primordial Tai Chi 500 Times -- Speeded Up My Evolution!
Howdy Qi Junkies,
These are my thoughts after doing the Primordial Qigong / Tai Chi for Enlightenment Ceremony 500 times in the past 12 months, mostly outdoors. I directly attribute my rapid spiritual evolution to performing this ceremony with the highest intent. I'll start with a poem inspired by this practice, and then share a few of my tales.
Golden Dragons plunge to my deep inner earth,
The Sun & Moon dance the dance of infinity.
Eternal beings sing with joy of another immortal awakening,
The beauty of my true nature is revealed.
Into the Light, to return to the Source,
You are Divine, Infinite & Immortal,
Capable of boundless Love,
Shower the Universe with your radiance...
Some tamer Primordial episodes. I'm tired of telling nutty but real stories, you'll have to ask in person for the really profound stuff:
1) I was on a mountain bike ride in the Blue Ridge Mountains, Mt. Pisgah. I climbed the knife's edge trail half way up the mountain. It was the beginning of the ride but I was compelled to stop.
The mountain asked me to do primordial for it right then and there. (I spend a lot of time alone deep in these mountains, they do talk, you know). I had only done Primordial for myself as cultivation & this was the first time I was compelled to do it for a place.
Two weeks later, I was riding the same trail when I brushed by the Primordial qi field in the same spot. I was like, no way. So I stopped to check it out, stepping into the qi field and yep, the pattern was still unfolding. It spoke infinity. I could feel the pattern in that spot for 3 months!
It was the perfect spot for this, somewhat protected, next to a gentle stream & some older oaks. I realized primordial IS infinity & and our Infinite nature allows us to help the earth elements by unfolding Infinity within us and connecting it with the outer world.
2) Last winter solstice I felt compelled to do the Primordial ceremony all day. It made sense to do it in a very yin spot to match the Great Yin event. I had planned to go to the spot (sacred to me) that the Green Man first honored me with his presence (I actually have slides). This spot is the deepest yin spot I've found in the forest.
I passed up the spot once I got there (it didn't feel right) and instead drove 20 miles south and climbed up to 4500' on the top of Pilot Mountain. This is the most Yang spot I've found in the Pisgah forest. On this clear day I could see Mt. Mitchell (highest peak on east coast of USA) 60 miles away.
I had brought an offering for the mountain to honor it in exchange for holding me up & said a prayer. It was empty energetically up there. The most Yang point on the most Yin day. You can absorb some really high frequency, hard to digest Yang energies (for me) on these peaks but it was safe this day. I did Primordial 8 times over 7 hours. 4 of them were done internally with me just turning the directions.
The mountain taught me how the Mountain energy changes in the seasons. During the winter the forest energy recedes to the deep valley floors & all spring the energy rises back up to these peaks, then recedes back down from the peaks during the fall.
I did the ceremony a 9th time in Joyce & Michael's kitchen that night during a 5 hour silent Solstice meditation, still tuned to Pilot Mtn. The qi field was intense with everyone doing Kan & Li in his living room.
I was still tuned to that spot nearly a year later during Michael's Fundamentals class in downtown Asheville. I was meditating next to the windows (yes, I do listen with one ear, Michael). The only open window was to my left and a very cool breeze was drifting across my face. The sun broke thru the closed window on my right.
The collision opened a cauldron down my center core and at the same time the sun rippled across the crystalline peak of Pilot Mtn. 30 miles behind me. My entire being erupted with a burst of pure white yuan light. It was so beautiful I about fell over, then looked around to see where I was. No one had noticed, but Michael had a smirk on his face... 3) During a different 5 hour meditation at Joyce & Michael's house (the spring equinox) I decided to do the Primordial ceremony as an internal sitting mediation. I thought it would be hard to keep the directions strait just sitting in one direction (facing east, next to Michael) but all it took was for me to set the intent and invite the pattern to unfold and it did.
I did absolutely no qi manipulation during the meditation and just sat and watched the pattern unfold VERY slowly, taking almost 3 hours. I learned how to truly feel the shift of consciousness in the qi field thru my body during this mediation. It felt like someone was pouring water thru the pathways, but the water did not move, it only passed the consciousness of movement thru the pathway.
I learned that qi does not move in the field, but rather passes consciousness thru the field. In this case it was linear but can pass consciousness non-linearally, multidimensionally across great perceived distances as well...
I become part Sky Dancer, part Geomancer
I have spent four years working with this form. Drawing in the five elements, thru the four sacred directions and center, holding but also turning upon the centre known as the core channel.
I flow into a deeper version of myself, part sky dancer, part geomancer, moving back and forth embracing earth, embracing heaven. This mystery of what this core channel is deepens.I am astonished at the process I witness.
This practise complements and supports all of the Taoist inner alchemy Kan and Li practises. Its a kind of initiation into those mysteries.
The Perfect Form to Smooth out Airplane Travel
This Taoist stuff just gets better and better, melting into the nooks and crannies of my life until it threatens to coat everything. Yikes! I took a flight into Dulles on my way back to Philly. The cheap seats. Surrounded by a concourse of coffee driven carts and mad dashes is an invisible haven: the chapel. Inside, the chairs are arranged and focus god onto the pulpit, but off to the side, in front of pictures of the Quaba (sic) and the Koran lays a rich broad carpet. Off with my shoes and backpack, onto the magic carpet and into this labyrinthine primordial form that calls the center from within. 1 day down, 99 to go. It made the rest of the trip much more bearable. I don't think I have had such a balanced effect from any of the other forms as I have with this one so far. Because it is so deeply centering, I can understand why it offers a different response each time. It is like calling into a very deep cavern and listening for the echo of my voice. It feels like a really sweet orgasm.
Customer reviews of: Tai Chi Products
|Average Rating: 8.5 in 23 reviews|
|Brings it all together||Rated 10 out of 10|
|I purchased the DVD initially for Primordial Qigong and it seems easy enough to learn, but
still did not quite explain the repeated movements.
After purchasing the audio CD's for Primordial QiGong, it helped to fill in the gaps and helped my understanding of the form and helps it all make sense. The background information and the questions and answers really brought it all together for me, and so hence I found the audio CD's really essential in my completely integrating the form into a daily practice. Thanks!
|instant wonderment||Rated 9 out of 10|
|I received this package from my daughter. I am a TaiJi teacher and student of many forms. I
was introduced to this form a few years ago (1 time) and have never forgotten how it made me feel. So
now having the cd's and dvd's to work with is fabulous. The only reason I rated it at a 9 is because the
cd's volume changes and can be a little rough at times. Please put me on your email list. PEACE XOXO
|A Magical Form - and Michael Winn does it masterfully!||Rated 8 out of 10|
|I had no previous experience with Tai Chi or Qigong before ordering this video but there is
something magic about the way it makes you feel and its ability to connect you to something greater!
Michael Winn does his forms with such mastery and passion. You really get a sense for his love of the
craft Some other teachers of this form I have seen teach this form in a mechanical and lifeless way.
I was disappointed in the speed of shipping and handling in this day of Amazon.com etc. When people order something they are excited to get it. Take away the technical points and service logistics and Michael Winn and Primordial Qigong are a 10.
|Very Pleased||Rated 10 out of 10|
|I am finding this dvd very helpful in my Primordial Qigong Practice. I only have class once
a week, and as we add new members almost every week, we often don't have the time to go through even one
cycle of Earth and Heaven. I can practice at home and know that I am following Michael's form, which is
what our class is based upon!
|Fast||Rated 10 out of 10|
|The product is great and the service is extremely fast.
|Unexplainable!!!!||Rated 10 out of 10|
|I have studied judo, karate, tai kwan do, and tai chi at different times, over my sixty
years of life. This primordial exercise has been the most beneficial in comparison to all the different
studies taken as a young man and now a seasoned adult. I have disciplined myself to execute this form at
least once a day, primarily, at the beginning of each day. The benefits are physical, mental and
spiritual and so the discipline is "easy". This practice can help to bring one an abundance of insights
into life's voyage. In comparison to other products I have purchased, this item has given me returns
that cannot be expressed in words. Unexplainable....
|Review title||Rated 10 out of 10|
|Review contents; i love tai chi and i want to learn it
|Review Primordial Qigong||Rated 1 out of 10|
|Exercises were performed patiently and conscientiously - they did NOTHING
for me; complete waste of time and money.
The hype re the great healers, etc. is without credibility.
Reply from Michael Winn: This may be someone who is energetically not open to the marvelous benefits of this form, testified to by hundreds of people. About 5%=10% of people who try it say it doesn't work for them. But his negative judgmental comment denying others their reality suggest his resistance to his OWN healing. This could not take place unless he did the 100 days practice of this form daily. Alas, he is not one with that kind of drive or self-discipline. We cheerfully refunded his money and wish him well on his Way.
|DVD review||Rated 4 out of 10|
|I was disappointed at the quality of the sound and filming of this DVD Due to the loud noise
of the wind in the back ground. It was dubbed over to so that you can hear the instructions more
clearly, but it was not done in a professional way.
Michael response: I had to laugh at this one. I threatened to re-do the video some years back and got howls of protests from dozens of people who loved the raw, PRIMORDIAL feel of the natural elements. But I did have certain sections dubbed over PROFESSIONALLY to make them more audible.What I think is really going on with some folks is that they are very accustomed to the highly controlled, closed-window, artificially lighted and sound-proof studio-made videos that define 99% of the videos made.I find these studio videos to be ENERGETICALLY DEAD. Tao is about absorbing the chi (Qi) from nature....so I know it's a struggle when everything is not as prettily packaged as we are used to, but that's part of the natural feel of life, in my humble opinion.
|Lovely form to learn!||Rated 8 out of 10|
|got this dvd about 2 years ago. the quality of the PRODUCTION is why i only gave it 8/10 -
but the quality of the CONTENT is definitely 10/10!!! it is a lovely form to learn and the dvd will
support you in learning it well - and as always - michael gives lots of intersting extras. i would have
liked to see a longer interview with the Dr Zhu Hui (who has such a happy face!) - just to get a little
more information on the form. but all round....a great healing form to learn without any overt/covert
'contamination' of martial applications. thank you michael.
|Primordial Qigong||Rated 8 out of 10|
|Very easy to learn from at a basic level. When using the DVD along with the hard copy
walk-through that came with it the content and quality is very good. Excellent for people unable to do
more strenuous forms of Qigong/Tai Chi.
|Easy to Follow||Rated 10 out of 10|
|This CD is easy to follow. Micheal Winn breaks all of the forms down step by step, then
builds the process, so that the adept can begin practice right away. The video was a bit choppy in
places, but not a problem. Well worth the money.
|tai chi for enlightenment video||Rated 10 out of 10|
|This is a magical Primordial Qiqong. It will help you connect to your inner self, the smooth
gentle and simple flowing movements are easy to learn but powerful. A transformation of yourself can be
revealed if you let it happen. Connect with it and enjoy. thank you Michael Winn for bringing this to
the west so the magic can continue.
|check it out||Rated 10 out of 10|
|suprisingly effective i've tried to practice it every day over a period of time.
|JUST AMAZING||Rated 10 out of 10|
|What a gift from the Spirit,have been practicing for a bit more than one month and the
results are AMAZING, physically,emotionaly,mentaly,spiritualy. A real Gem,would recommend it to
anyone,not matter where they are at.
Thank you Mr Wynn,from the bottom of my heart.
|Exellent instructions||Rated 10 out of 10|
A wonderful dvd. A thorough instruction in a quiet environment with an eye for details in the instruction. It helped me to practice at home and have a teacher available at every moment I like it. Worth the price and a treasure for the rest of my life.
|Good video||Rated 10 out of 10|
|Michael Winn clearly explains how to approach this qigong and gives a lot of explainations,
so this dvd is good start...you can learn all the movements, then you have to practice and find for
yourself how primordial qigong works for you.
I still need to practice more in order to understand, but dvd is very good I think.
|Hash and Preoccupation||Rated 3 out of 10|
|The DVD seemed to be a rehash of older material which broke the continuity. The web site
seemed to be preoccupied with enhancing one's sex life, instead of "life". To be sure the material may
be regarded as timeless, but I found the shift between "now and then" annoying.
|Tai Chi for Enlightenment DVD||Rated 10 out of 10|
|Very nice DVD and well made...Easy to follow and learn from...
|Good Purchase||Rated 8 out of 10|
|I have been learning the Primordial Qi Gong practice through this video and find the
practice itself very soothing. I've read some reviews about the background sound of wind and the
waterfalls, on the video, and it's true, the sound quality isn't what is produced in a studio. However,
if you sink in and feel the qualities that the outdoors, the mountains, waterfalls, trees, and all are
bringing to the transmission, it becomes something that enhances the transmission of the practice.
I appreciate the way Michael has added the refinements into each segment where they belong. It took a few times through watching the video but the instructions were clear, the demonstrations helpful, and after a couple of weeks I'm now doing the practice outdoors, without the help of the video to watch.
I'm appreciative of this practice being extended to us, humankind, at this time. The effect of the practice for me has been soothing, relaxing, unwinding, yielding, returning. The instruction on the video is clear and helpful. The sound quality, if you focus on the background sounds, it gets a little much; however, if you can let it go and feel for the transmission, it is rich and full and quite supportive for learning a new practice. This is an excellent practice and a solidly good purchase.
|This is the One!||Rated 9 out of 10|
|Michael's Primordial Qigong video has given me a great gift - this form is so addictive, I
just love it and have been practicing twice a day ever since I mastered the moves (this took about 4
viewings of the dvd).I do recommend that you get the audio CD's with the DVD as listening to Michael
teaching a live class gives you many insights into the form and helps you to correct any mistakes you
could be making (I listen to these CD's in the car - one slight complaint - you have to have the volume
turned right up in order to hear properly). So 9 out of 10 Michael - Thank You!!!
|Very good set to learn the Primordial Qigong form||Rated 8 out of 10|
|The Primordial Qigong DVD is very good to learn the movements. I did have some initial
concerns since this form is both referred to as Qigong and also as Tai Chi.
The audio CDs are another issue. It would help to have the CDs be in MP3 format to allow listening on a portable device, and not just on a PC. The CDs also apparently were recorded from a workshop and include some things not on the DVD. I haven't yet had the time to listen to all the audio CDs, but there is at least a long time of physical shaking that is not on the DVD.
|Loved It!||Rated 10 out of 10|
|I love anything Michael Winn offers, because I AM Michael Winn. 🙂 (TESTING THE SYSTEM, seeing if it can hold positive love vibes).|