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Trust and bliss

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  • January 24, 2006 at 6:30 pm #10000
    Crevy
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    When into a spiritual practise one often gets into states of bliss. While bliss is nice, it is not very balanced and not always desireable in the same way that you for example would not like to be on a drug all the time. It is fun for a while, but soon you want to feel “normal”. Bliss states can (i assume) deplete your serotonin if you are in it for an extended period of time. As serotonin regulates mental balance you will get into a negative mental state sooner or later, maybe even a depression.

    This is why i belive it is important to combine any spiritual practise with simple sitting (zazen). When you sit, your trust that you are complete grows. If you trust that you love yourself, trust in completeness, then your consciousness doesn’t feel the need to make you constantly conscious that you love yourself by making you feel bliss all the time. It doesn’t need to prove anything to you, as you trust yourself. So the bliss sinks below your conscious threshold. It is like the love between an old couple. They don’t have to express their love to each other every day to prove there is still love between them. When there is trust in love, you don’t have to prove it’s there by showing it.

    January 28, 2006 at 2:48 pm #10001
    Michael Winn
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    I think you raise some interesting issues here.

    But words really fail to describe different levels of bliss.

    I think what I call “post-natal” bliss would eventually exhaust the body if not allowed to regenerate.
    Example: a lot of good sex, that eventually becomes too much and exhausts the jing. or eating a lot of good food, which at some point loses its taste because you’ve overeaten.

    Jing exhaustion = no more bliss, no substance for shen /awareness to vibrate.

    But I believe true spiritual bliss, which taps into the collective jing of humanity and ultimately, at the primordial level, into the primordial jing of space itself – this bliss cannot be exhausted. it is very essence of transcendence of local body/space.

    Some food for thought. Please don’t get too full thinking about it, or brain fatigue will set in.

    🙂
    michael

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