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April 26, 2006 at 2:46 pm #13402johnathanParticipant
hi guys,
I read about Royal Jelly, and Bee pollen and heard that this stuff can really help you out. If you guys have read from the “practice” forum I had a serious masturbation, sex problem which drained me.
I was wondering if Royal Jelly can provide a huge boost in recovery, and also bring balance and good health?
What are its real benefits? and what are its sideeffects?
Has anyone here ever tried Royal Jelly, and what were the results?
Does anyone know anything about the particular brand: Peking Royal Jelly, the one in red and white packaging? Thats the one I saw at my local bulk barn but was hestitant to try it out because I didnt have enough knowledge about it.
I understand that you should stay away from it if you have asthma, allergies etc, but I can handle honey quite fine and don’t believe I have asthma or allergies.
April 26, 2006 at 7:32 pm #13403.freeform.ParticipantRoyal Jelly replenishes jing that you lose when ejaculating… it may increase sex drive over time. Make sure to get a product that contains Royal Jelly along with bee pollen, propolis and honey… this is more balanced and protects the Royal Jelly (because the jelly goes off very quickly if not stored in honey).
April 26, 2006 at 7:58 pm #13405johnathanParticipantThanks for your reply freeform,
How should Royal Jelly be taken? meaning do I take it after meals? before meal? with or without water? in the morning, afternoon, or night?
And what specific brand can you recommend that is Royal Jelly that comes along with bee pollen, proplis, and honey. Is there any reliable trustworthy website you can recommend to purchase Royal Jelly from?
April 26, 2006 at 9:58 pm #13407.freeform.ParticipantI normally take it in the mornings and put it into my fruit shake that I blend myself. You just need a teaspoonfull. (I dont take it everyday though… only when I need to replenish lost energy quickly) I live in the UK so cant recomend an appropriate US distributor – have a look online, I’m sure it’s not too hard to find.
April 26, 2006 at 11:42 pm #13409matblackParticipantTo determine the best one for your body, you can muscle test it.
Careful of any added ginseng in the peking brand. It will state on the box if it has any in it.
If you get bee pollen, try to at least rupture it, otherwise the nutrients remain bound up for the most part, rendering them anavailible/undigestible to the body.-mat
April 28, 2006 at 6:41 pm #13411johnathanParticipanthi mat thanks for feedback, what do you mean by “you can muscle test it”
And about being careful of ginseng being added? is this a bad or good thing? will it distort the royal jelly? and what is the best form for royal jelly to be taken as? liquid vial? pill? powder?
April 28, 2006 at 8:46 pm #13413matblackParticipantHey Johno,
there are many different ways to muscle test.
The way that works best for me is to hold something in one hand and extend that arm arm out to the side. Then pick up the thing you want to test in the other hand and hold it near your thymus (on your chest).If your body wants it (if it’s good for you) the thing in the other hand will feel lighter.
If your body doesn’t want it, the thing in th other hand will feel heavy and you arm will feel weak.This is only one way to do it, and I’m saying it ’cause it gives me the clearest response. Other techniques might be better for other people. Just experiment.
THe reason I mentioned ginseng is because to me, It’s about as much of a tonic as coffee. It only stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, (and arousal) which gives me a sense of having more energy, but sooner or later, (after inadvertantly cooking some yin) I actually feel weaker.
Again, this may not be the case with everyone, but ’cause you were experiencing low energy from sexual excess, I thought it might be better to avoid it, at least for a couple of months.I’ve had R jelly in many forms and the peking brand which comes in little vials tested strong for me. I use the one in the blue box (extra strength I think)
I know a bee keeper and used to get bee pollen from him for years. It did nothing for me.
That’s not to day it’s useless, but I think it needs to bee pulverised into a powder to rupture the granules so that the nutrients aren’t bound up.Time for me to BUZZZZZZZZ off.
mApril 28, 2006 at 11:08 pm #13415johnathanParticipanthi mat! thanks for your reply!
as for holding your arm out, this is how I interpret your instructions:
my right arm is complete stretched out oh my side; as in jesus on the cross but only with right arm out, and palms facing up holding onto say.. a bookmy left arm is bent while my left hand is holding onto the peking royal jelly box, at my top chest area right below my throat which is where i assume my thymus gland is
from there i will start to sense and feel my right arm and hand, if its light it means royal jelly is all good, if its heavy and makes my right hand weak, that means a no go!
please tell me if i got this right, or if i misinterpreted something, thanks!
as for the royal jelly i bought the peking brand and plan to try it tommorrow, I was planning to only consume half of one of those little 10ml bottles first, to see what happens. They recommend one of those 10ml vial bottles a day.. I thought that might be to intense..
you said the peking royal jelly brand is too strong? what do you mean when you say this?
as in results from consuming this product? what did you notice? more energy? improvement in vitality, health etc?
thanks again for your advice and help!
i’ll be buzzing for for a bit too! hehe
April 28, 2006 at 11:15 pm #13417johnathanParticipantoh by the way,
does this royal jelly stuff get addictive and become coffee like, drug like? or anything like that
because I definately do not want that to happen, i don’t want this to be some temporary energy boost and then feel completely drained after..i have a feeling multivitamin pills and stuff are scamish like that, i went to the vitamin store to ask for royal jelly, and they told me that was not for me and tried to sell me all this other crap to boost overall male power, health etc etc..
i just want to use it (royal jelly) to help aid me to recover, and then not have to ever use it again because i will hopefully be in very good health and balance!
by the way is mixing royal jelly with honey safe?
or is it best to consume royal jelly by itself?I’m gonna plan to drink the vial before eating
thanks again for your help mat!
April 29, 2006 at 1:46 am #13419matblackParticipantYep Johno, that’s the way I describing the muscle test, spot on.
>>I was planning to only consume half of one of those little 10ml bottles first, to see what happens. They recommend one of those 10ml vial bottles a day.. I thought that might be to intense.. <>you said the peking royal jelly brand is too strong? what do you mean when you say this?<<
I said that I get the extra strength form of the peking brand. The reason is that it was the only one the store had, and it tested strong for me.The main thing I notice is that it's good for my complexion.
Buzzin out………
April 29, 2006 at 2:11 am #13421matblackParticipantAnything I write is based on my experience so far, so I’m not making any statements of fact, just sharing what I know………..so…………
>>does this royal jelly stuff get addictive and become coffee like, drug like? or anything like that
because I definately do not want that to happen, i don’t want this to be some temporary energy boost and then feel completely drained after..<>…….. and tried to sell me all this other crap to boost overall male power, health etc etc.. <<
Now THAT'S the stuff I would be careful of.
"Boost male power" ……..usually by stimulating the sympathetic nervous system and/or instilling a big yang kick which initially feels like an energy boost, but is …………take this metaphore….It's like you have a pot of soup on a stove. The soup is the yin/jing and the flame underneath is yang. They need each other for the soup to be animated (of any use)
You can add more yang by turning up the flame, but if you don;t proportionatley increase the amount of soup in the pot as well, you'll cook the pot (body) dry.That's what a lot of 'male formulas' are designed to do. They give you a kick of yang, which makes you feel stronger in the short term, but without addressing the yin, you burn out quicklly.
Mixing the Jelly with the Honey is fine, probablly good for synergy.
I have mine about 15 minutes after breakfast.
Did you have a look at the s biele discussion at tao bums? Might give you some other tips. Pietros' piece on fantasy was fantasic.
Also, lycium, pumkin seed (fresh) sweet potatoe, organ meats, (yeah, I'd rather not eat meat, but my body needs it at the moment)and some herbs would be good, but yin/yang balance is proportionate to the individual.
mat
April 29, 2006 at 1:56 pm #13423johnathanParticipanthi thanks Mat! I just tried the peking royal jelly today, it tastes like honey and alcohol mixed! my tongue and throat was numb for a bit, either because of the alcohol or allergies! hehe, but i think it was because of the alcohol. I don’t notice anything yet, perhaps a slight energy boost and feeling good? though it might be psychological.
Thanks again for your feedback!
April 29, 2006 at 4:38 pm #13425.freeform.ParticipantI think it was Jernej that mentioned the hectic energy of royal jelly… rather than the smooth calming energy of whole raw milk… I do agree, however when the RJ comes with bee pollen, propolis and honey, then it’s actually a claming and centering suppliment… again – I would not take RJ by itself… also RJ by itself loses it’s effectiveness in only a few days after harvesting (unless it’s stabilised by honey and the other bit
April 30, 2006 at 8:33 pm #13427johnathanParticipantthanks freeform for your added feedback, i’m gonna take RJ with honey and see if it does anything,
i didn’t really notice any huge results all i noticed was:
some energy gain, thought it oculd be psychological
and very weird tingingly, cooling effects in my tantien
thats about it..
i cannot seem to find whole raw milk! where do you guys get your goat, or cow milk? i can only find commercialized ones in the grocery stores i go to. I currently live in Montreal, Canada.
May 1, 2006 at 1:08 pm #13429johnathanParticipantHey Pietro, thanks again for sharing your insights.
I e-mailed the people at WAPF for sources to raw organic cow or goat milk. By the way will raw cow or goat milk affect my allergy conditions?
raw cream and un-heated honey, hehe sounds yummy!
if thats what I have to do to cure my allergies, then by all means I will do it!My nose is running like crazy right now, and its making it very difficult to do the practices for healing such as tree/horse stance, stretches, and healing sounds
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