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July 26, 2007 at 5:50 am #23105wendyParticipant
I am dealing with a lot of heaven chi the last past days, that is why I am back in silence mode for listening/digesting. This morning being between sleep and awake, I felt a huge amount of heart energy and the heart spoke of 7 gates of the heart. I never heard of it before. Any of you?
It defined the 7 gates as: in and out, open and closed, positive, negative and neutral, I don’t see that as gates but as conditions. So I wonder if anyone can enlighten the gates or the conditions. If not, fine I work with it like it is, I can’t deny it anyway as it is so alive, I can’t avoid it. Not that I want to avoid it but there are tiny moments of abundance of heart I almost fear it. But it looks like it wants to stay no matter my little drawbacks.
Yesterday I had an immense energy shower for hours, some moments it was so intense, I felt dizzy and drunk. I guess the abundance has found its way to the heart today.July 26, 2007 at 11:02 am #23106wendyParticipantOf course, the 7 gates, it is so simple…
we completely need to understand, live and integrate the polarities in order to complete ourself.July 26, 2007 at 1:44 pm #23108Alexander AlexisParticipantHi Wendy,
It feels to me that you are being communicated with by the lifeforce in terms which you can use and understand, and which feed you.
Many of us are a part of groups of souls which are developing certain aspects and energies, working certain paths of functions, and so the lifeforce tells us things for those certain purposes. It may not mean much to others, but it does the trick for us.
Also, there has been a huge huge influx of energy into the earth’s field this year. Waves and waves non-stop flowing in. That heaven energy you speak of. I believe that those of us doing deep work are really getting inundated by these flows. It has been blissful and freeing and sometimes very challenging to utilize, to integrate. You and I both have a particular kind of sensitivity which is very emotionally and earth mother centered. We feel a lot. I think the changes in the earth’s field are worked through by everyone, but certain of us feel it more and are called to balance and hold it more than others.
So when you say:
“…it is so simple…we completely need to understand, live and integrate the polarities in order to complete ourself”
I have to smile because that revelation is of course right but whew! what a deal it is to do.
Love, Alexander
July 26, 2007 at 4:03 pm #23110StevenModeratorI can’t speak or add any comments to Wendy’s experience
beyond what you wrote, since I think you hit the mark.Out of curiosity, what is the reason–in your opinion–for
this extra large influx of energy?Would you say that it is just some normal variation, or
do you think that there is something more profound going
on?Warmly,
SteveJuly 26, 2007 at 5:35 pm #23112DogParticipantBefore my choose to work with the taoist path of the Healing tao. I worked with a Sufi path, also raindowbridge(hermetic teachings) stuff but thats realy not in line with what your talking about but the sufi stuff is. I also for a time was working with Yesua to help guide me through the stages of my heart(this is what I was told to call them by a guide/friend). Later In working with the healing tao stuff I ask Yesua to help bring that heart energy into my practice and ground it in my center. I believe we as humanity do not have its full heart. It is part of that carrot that leads us. This craving this ich for completion. For now I do not believe we will have full knowledge of self but we may in the near future have acess to our full heart of humanity and when we do we will have the power and pathways to change this universe in a very stronge and profound heart centered way. So for me the taoist system I am learning gives me a container for my full human heart power and a very practical ground way to us it(other things as well but trying to stay on topic).
The drunk stage is a neat stage and is writen about by rumi and others. THere are even later staeges where you meet your femine side and or male side. Often you would start to write it love poetry or just sing it out loud. How beautiful you are how you wish to build a palace for your love a place where you can be lovers free and open. I remember wanting to be blind and for my body to dissapear so that there was nothing between me and my love. That we would be as one. Later there is no sing out loud and no words, your love is there, you walked softly because there was your love, you spoke softly because there was your love, you heard only the voice of your love, drank only our love, breathed only your love, tasted only our love, spoke softly because you only spoke to your love.
all for now peaceJuly 26, 2007 at 6:18 pm #23114wendyParticipantDog, you mention a very important point which I can resonate with, that is that our heart has not yet achieved full potential yet. I do believe that as well…sometimes I am not sure how to contain all this energy in just one heart. Because it is not meant to be just one heart for one person, it has the ability to share far beyond, even beyond this planet.
A friend replied privately why I said, in and out, open and close instead of up and down. That would be from the body point of view correct, but from the heart point it uses, in and out, open and close, feel the subtle difference, it feels like an anemone, a sea flower, does it not?!
When I use that I feel drunk, yes, ringing in my ears, one would like to sing and dance and share love, for now with subtle care, maybe one day…
much love to you Dog
and Alexander, loving embrace, not many words need to be shared between us
July 26, 2007 at 6:53 pm #23116dolphinParticipantOne of my favorite quotes from Bucky Fuller (paraphrased): There is no up and down, only in and out. ie In towards the center, which in our case is Earth, or Out and away from Earth’s center. Up and down implies that there’s some infinite flat plane, which can make some sense in some situations. Bucky’s viewpoint works nicely for daoist practices also.
-MichaelL
July 26, 2007 at 11:53 pm #23118Alexander AlexisParticipant“..what is the reason–in your opinion–for
this extra large influx of energy?Would you say that it is just some normal variation, or
do you think that there is something more profound going
on?”Hi Steven,
I think nothing normal has gone on for quite some time now. If the Mayan take on our reality is even approximately accurate, and, as I perceive it, it is, even without regard to their supposed timeframe, we have been in a liminal zone for the last twenty years at least and will be so until life as we know it shifts (supposedly by 2012 winter solstice) because the universe and the earth have conspired to grow. In Daoism this is called “The Return.”
“Growth” in this context is not just a leap ahead, like a techo-leap, but a paradigm change of the greatest proportions. It is difficult to register this one on the human Reichter scale – the way the mind now works to understand things – because we are shifting from being humans who live from intellectually centered lower mind functions based largely on survival fears and memories of the past to being beings who know they are God. (Deep Breath Here.) The shift in consciousness is so huge it is almost incomprehensible. But if you check in with yourself and realize that this is what “saints and sages” have been talking about since the “beginning of time” you will feel the truth of it.
Imagine a group of people who have for an unimaginably long period of time lived life only through their memory of the past and with the basic thought, “I must be safe at all costs!”. These people think, act and feel only through what has transpired in the past for their ancestors and so the only possibilities open to them are ones that are some variation of what has come before. Nothing really truly new could ever happen in their lives because they are operating from memory programs and the intense need for safety. All they ever see in their lives are form changes because they have no real creativity. To create one must change essence; one must re-create oneself.
Suddenly, the world they are living on is caught up in its wave of reconnection with the Whole, because that is the way of things, and a new world begins to open for these people because now, as the energies lift them up, they are able to see POSSIBILITY. They are able to see with a mind of wholeness. They are able to dream things they never could have before and they are able to believe in the realness of these dreams.
Prior to this it was only the exceptional person, the genius in some field, who came up with new things, and because of the fear of change held in the minds of the general populace these people were often hurt or used because of their gifts. For a whole world of people to shift from being unable to see anything but what has already happened to seeing what COULD be is an almost undescribable shift in awareness to make.
Those people are us and that shift is happening now. We are becoming something different.
In Robert Shapiro’s really nifty book The Explorer Race he captures this shift very well in his descriptions as an undercurrent to the info he gives. One of his concepts is that “the mind” will, in a sense, drop away as it is something we cannot use where we are going. In its place will be the heart-mind that daoism talks about all the time. Living through the heart spontaneously with direct connection to the Source. This is what Wendy and I are always talking about. Dog gets it too. We talk like we’re nuts sometimes because we have a kind of visionary awareness which overwhelms our 3D perceptions of what is going on around us at the moment. A great quote from his book is this:
“The purpose of the human experience is to discover the fallacy of attempting to be that which you are not.”
(That’s why I’m always screaming at people, “Look at your issues! Transform your fear and resistance!)
So, the answer to your question about what is going on imo is that it is not about the influxes of energy but about what they mean. They mean that the fabric of our reality has changed and we are experiencing the earth as a part of All That Is responding to them, moving up in vibration, letting go of the old patterns and the ways that go with them. She is manifesting her destiny. And so are we.
Spontaneously,
AlexanderJuly 26, 2007 at 11:58 pm #23120Alexander AlexisParticipantJuly 27, 2007 at 12:05 am #23122Alexander AlexisParticipantJuly 27, 2007 at 12:08 am #23124Alexander AlexisParticipantJuly 27, 2007 at 8:35 am #23126wendyParticipantThank you Michael, it confirms my feelings and while in the past I was unsure about those feelings, which were/are pretty nuts at times, as Alexander says, I gradually learn to take them as mine, no matter what the rest of the world says.
And again that is why I don’t read books, it is just not my way, I want it straight, between me and the life force. So no book, no bible, no scripture will explain to me what I have to feel, how to feel it, what to think, how to think, this is not out of vanity or blindness or stupidity, contrary out of the deepest awe for the life force itself, I bow, often I bow.
But it is very nice to have confirmation from others, who do read, because I have no illusions, it is not new, but at least it is mine in every cell of my being. That is my path, how I want to communicate, for now. And I tell you it is a very slow path.
So please keep reading and share with me, as I share with you.July 27, 2007 at 6:29 pm #23128StevenModeratorHi Alexander,
Thanks so much for responding!
I find this whole situation you mention fascinating.The logical, overly analytical, part of me tries to
exclude other possibilities. The internal debate
proceeds as:“This is real, isn’t it?”
“Maybe you only think it to be real,
because you have a big ego and of course you would
expect something important to happen during YOUR
lifetime; tone down your self-importance”“But other people notice it too”
“It’s natural for other people to think highly
of themselves also”
. . . on and on . . .The analytical part of me can’t decide, or
even leans in the direction of illusion.In my heart, the part of me that feels, FEELS that this is right.
It feels that something more is going on here than just some
mental illusion created by a personal overbloated ego.There is some kind of acceleration going on here, and every
part of my intuitive being tells me that it is real!What do think the cause of this was?
I have an intuitive feeling, but I’d like to hear your
thoughts first . . .Best,
StevenJuly 28, 2007 at 3:38 pm #23130Alexander AlexisParticipant“The logical, overly analytical, part of me tries to
exclude other possibilities.”That’s a good thing to notice.
“The internal debate
proceeds as:‘This is real, isn’t it?…'”
Yes, yada, yada, yada.
“There is some kind of acceleration going on here, and every
part of my intuitive being tells me that it is real!”One thing that should be helpful to think about with regard to this silly battle we have inside us is this fact that, with any parts of us, or with any persons who clamor for proof that the spiritual is real and the root of everything: Denying and doubting parts will always say NO! to actual proof right off the bat because that is what protects them. Then, after they are inundated with the obvious long enough they will give in and regard it as proof but will then find out that they are not satisfied by that external proof they clamored for. Proving the reality of spirit is not necessary but the mind thinks it is a prerequisite.
In fact, the true and lasting proof is the actual experience of it. This is what satisfies the person because that is what souls need in order to know truth- direct experience. It is ironic that this direct proof is what the mind likes to call “subjective” and therefore junk and uses that excuse to throw away what, in the end, is the only thing it can fall back on.
In the end, I think this question revolves around a choice that is made by the soul to believe in itSelf rather than to doubt itSelf.
“What do think the cause of this was?”
I don’t see how this question is any different than what you already asked and that I answered in my last message. What do you mean here?
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July 29, 2007 at 4:31 am #23132StevenModeratorI agree with pretty much everything you said here.
Learning to trust one’s feelings and experience I
think goes a long way. As these skills develop,
they start to battle with the mind.My difficulty has always been with getting these
two different aspects of myself to harmonize.
I’m getting pretty good at trusting my heart and intuition,
but getting it to unite with the mind is tricky, especially
since the mind speaks with an analytical language.My last question really is just a philosophical question,
as to WHY “the universe and the earth have conspired to grow”
as you put it.In other words, what generated the change? or more to the
point what caused the change to happen NOW?I have a theory that the change is being fed by certain activity
that us silly humans have been doing in the past 40 or so years.
What do you think?I can elaborate more if you wish.
Best,
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