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September 6, 2007 at 8:46 am #24154wendyParticipant
Lately many things happen, many questions arise and there is one thing I feel to share.
I learned from past that I have to follow my own inner wisdom, regardless of what is written and said in previous and recent times yet there was one question that kept me going. All are speaking about the importance of the heart, yet I see, feel that there is a lot of talking, yet little actual heart openness.
As a rejected child I faced rejections on many levels reflecting my inner pain, I learned to understand this and worked hard internally to feel the inner love radiating within, to myself, and still I encountered closed doors (hearts). So I wondered maybe I did not work hard enough, so work harder, love yourself more and again I faced closed doors, so I wondered, what is going on out there, why are people so afraid, what are they so afraid of?
After another experience this past summer to understand this, I decided to just focus on my inner love and leave all the closed doors closed, to my own relieve and deep sigh, I was happy to be within and in silence.
After the moment I had decided to close my door inwardly, someone knocked at my door…to my very very surprise.Thinking back of all the closed doors I faced but also trusting my inner believe, I slowly gave access. Read well, from far physical distance. But energies travel without boundaries. And in the midst of this energetic interaction and this time from my part with a lot of questions and inner reflections, I was boomeranged right into the cosmic heart.
Not only I felt the cosmic heart beat but I also saw how my inner dragon heart was here to teach me that.All the fear dragons and reptiles enhance in people are nothing but the mirroring of our own ugly and hurted hearts. Is it not said that reptiles don’t have a heart, well the dragons I know indeed they don’t have A heart, they work from the cosmic heart. That is why when dragon and my heart mingled I saw the world as new, reborn.
Unfortunately the ignorance about them and the witch like hunt are increasing not only the separation with them but also the poison in our own hearts. It took me a very long time to understand this and to work through my own fears, and also to work through all the misinformation circulating. That is why I don’t read books anymore.
My heart is my only true guide.And having a dragon heart I understand now why people did not open their door for me… why I raise both attraction and fear.
the man who dared to knock on my door is at least brave…
If you want to win the heart of the lady, you enter the dark cave and you bow and surrender to the dragon, as a guardian it holds the cosmic wisdom and mirrors your own fears. Putting yourself naked before the dragon, the dragon and your fears will fade away and what is left is the cosmic heart beat and the pulse of absolute love…the treasure.
and I thank the man who knocked at my door, because my fear to speak is fading.
… the time of speaking up is approaching…September 6, 2007 at 9:10 am #24155NnonnthParticipantWhile I am not sure what you mean when you talk about the ‘witch-like hunt’, I do think fear of things… well in my case it is more serpentine as well as draconian… these are fears of love absolutely, symbolized magically that is my view. People who love are feared by other people and this is the way it is at the moment in alot of places.
Kundalini serpent goddess is underneath it and this is why I talk about bellydance from time to time. But in the magical circles there does not appear to be the same fear. New age stuff – forgive me – but it does often smell of fear, there are alot of conspiracies etc… there is alot in the ‘reptilian scare’ that I don’t understand if that’s the witch hunt you are referring to. In magic the value of a figure like medusa is understood very well. Jernej mentioned Jan Fries, who understands perfectly this thing.
More personally, I understand completely the fact that things happened when you allowed the doors to close and were not seeking. This delivered you from lust of result as they say, it’s the key for sure.
Congratulations on love and I look forward to what you say next. j
September 6, 2007 at 10:15 am #24157wendyParticipantTo answer one question Jason, the whole David Icke and similar, hunt for the bad reptilians are not making things better, it surely enhances humans deep fear for reptiles, snakes and dragons.
(Un)fortunately I am a scorpio, snake (in both Chinese and American native)and had close encounters with reptilians and dragons, so I am very much contaminated…But in the same breath I will post this to enlighten the path I am walking. I found this was pretty much what I feel and maybe it helps to open up my first posting…
‘In the myths of the Dragon, particularly in Western legends of Saint George and the Dragon type, the Dragon is a villainous creature who roams around the country side stealing treasure, especially gold, and kidnapping fair maidens. The Dragon then proceeds to hide the treasure and the maiden in his cave, which he then guards ferociously. In actual fact, the Dragon represents ourself. He is the fear that bars the dark and murky cave of our subconscious, that ominous labyrinth where we dare not venture into for fear of being lost forever by becoming submerged in the storms of our emotional garbage. St George is the Sacred Warrior, who symbolised the Awakened Ego who has surrendered to Soul. He is a masculine symbol who risks destruction by penetrating into the feminine subconscious for the purpose of integrations, armed with the power of the Feminine Soul with whom he is seeking to unite (this of course is the way of integration for both men and women).
The treasure hidden away in the cave is Unity, Harmony, Wisdom, Realisation. The fair maiden is our Soul. Our One True Love. Our Destiny. the Key to Gods Kingdom. She is the ferry-man who will guide us to her and finally through the portal of SELF and out into Cosmic consciousness.
Of course, in the first stages of our great Cosmic journey we are like poor peasants who run from this terrifying creature and thus never discovering what it truly possesses. The more the peasants run, the bigger and more terrifying the Dragon seems. Then one frightful day, a peasant becomes caught in a trap laid by the terrible Dragon. He can do nothing but fight, that’s if he doesn’t die of fright first. So he fights, desperately, fearfully, and to his amazement he survives. The dragon is not slain, only wounded, and has run off into the forest. The peasants has been badly wounded and stumbles into the cave for refuge. In fear of the dark he stays at the mouth of the cave and doesn’t realise the treasure contained within. However, the fair maiden kept captive deep inside the cave is a mysterious and powerful magician, a Being of Light, a Goddess in fact, who is under a spell placed on her by the Dragon. To break the spell she needs to unite with a human who will willingly surrender to her. If this occurs the Dragon will no longer have power over her.
With her mystical powers she detects the wounded stranger at the mouth of the cave and reaches out to him. The grace of her mystical touch is pure unconditional love and upon experiencing her caress, the peasant is overwhelmed by her beauty and power and is instantly revived. Just then the Dragon returns and the peasant flees the cave, back to the safety of the village. However, the peasant is not the same. There is now the mark of the Dragon upon him, and his experience of facing the Dragon has given him a measure of wisdom. Most of all, however, the peasant has experienced the mysterious touch of the Goddess in the cave. He knows she is his one true love, even though he hasn’t met her face to face. He has felt the essence of her Being. To be once again united with her now dominates his thoughts.
The other villagers see these things and fear him. They know one is never the same after being face to face with a Dragon. Talking with him reminds them of the Dragon, so terrifying to them that they would rather not think about it. The villagers know that when one survives an encounter with a Dragon, one seemingly becomes possessed by a mysterious power.
Because of the strange force growing within him, the peasants values begin to change. He is less and less interested in the petty affairs of the squabbling villagers. He spends much time alone pondering the nature of his new found wisdom, and feels in his heart the calling of his one true love, the mysterious Goddess who came to him in a vision while hiding wounded in the cave.
As time goes by, the peasant begins to gain the reputation as a shaman, and even though they still fear him, the villages come to him with their problems. Soon the peasants yearning to unite once again with the Goddess grows stronger than his fear of the Dragon and so, fashioned out of his own hard work he purposefully dons a shinning suit of armour made of knowledge, places in his scabbard his lovingly forged sword of truth, scoops up his shield of steadfastness, mounts his newly acquired stead of justice, and reaches for his lance of courage. The villages watch in trepidation and puzzlement as the new warrior rides out of the village in search of the Dragon. They knew it would eventually come to this but the villagers can never understand why someone would want to deliberately go out hunting for Dragons.
Eventually the warrior returns once again wounded but with more wisdom and more fighting skills. More importantly, a greater bond with his Goddess. As the years roll on, the warriors Dragon hunting expeditions increase. Sometimes he finds what he is looking for, sometimes he doesn’t. As his skills increase and his wisdom grows, he is able to venture deeper and deeper into the labyrinth like cave, guided by the grace of his Goddess, as the Dragon attempts to thwart his every move, for the Dragon is a cunning foe.
He is now an elder of the village, teaches other warriors and selflessly serves his community, even though the villagers are of the ungrateful and still don’t trust him. When he rides into the village after being out Dragon hunting, the villagers do not come out to meet him, only the other warriors and the little children. The children love his gentle nature, even though this powerful warrior is an imposing figure in his cosmic armour. the children know he has command of his strength. Most of all they crave the unconditional love and acceptance that he freely pours out to them as he plays games with them or tells them stories of the great myths and legends.
Then one day, the warrior, fighting courageously with all his skill and might, ventured further and deeper into the cave than he had ever been. The Dragon raged at him and made himself grow terrifyingly large, so much so that the warrior almost turned and retreated, but then something stopped him. Somehow the warrior knew that this was it, that there was no turning back. This time, he would rather die than leave the cave without his one true love. Mustering all the will and courage within him, he turned and deliberately faced the deadly Dragon. Feeling it’s searing breath upon his face, as he stared deep into it’s piercing yellow eyes.
Without taking his eyes off the Dragon, the warrior proceeded to lay down his armour. Confused, the Dragon stopped in it’s tracks and watched as the warrior continued disrobing until he was completely naked. Having done this, he calmly picked up his beautifully ornate suit of armour of knowledge and reverently placed it before the Dragons scaly feet, saying, ‘you are free to take me Dragon, for I no longer fear you. My body is yours to maul with your mighty teeth if you will”. Then the warrior placed his glistening shield of steadfastness before the Dragon saying, “my desires and aspirations are yours to crush with your mighty barbed tail if you will”. Lastly the warrior picked up his fine and beautifully decorated sword of truth and gently placed it at the Dragons feet saying, “my honour and integrity are yours to destroy with your fiery breath if you will”. Then to the even greater astonishment of the Dragon, the warrior sat down, closed his eyes and stilled his mind.However, instead of the terrible monster tearing him apart, at once the Dragon began to fade away like a vanishing phantom, and in it’s place appeared the beautiful radiant Goddess. Suddenly brilliant golden light filled every corner of the cave and choirs of angels burst into song as She reached down to the warrior bringing him to his feet. When they embraced, Her radiance suddenly turned into a great cosmic fire that consumed them both, transforming and merging them into the Light of the World.’
*”ADVANITE IN TENEBRAS UP LUCEM LIBERETIS”**
*(ENTER INTO THE DARKNESS IN ORDER FOR THE LIGHT TO BE LIBERATED)September 6, 2007 at 10:49 am #24159NnonnthParticipant… mutual surrender is hard to arrange, what is hardest is continuing to wish to surrender and finding no surrender in return.
Worth pointing out the hundreds of variations of the fearful and monstrous as the keys to love which are used in this great world of ours. It is significant – oh so very significant! – that they tell at the same time always the same story and always a different one.
Glenn Morris loved to talk about Kali, depicted with the severed head of a man clutched in her hand, symbolizing the removal of the male ego before the force of the monstrous feminine. There is also the spider, perhaps even more hated by many than the snake. The goddess Babalon is often talked of by magicians, the sacred whore, whose filth is monstrous because she mates with all things, and who becomes a radiant and virginal figure when fear is dispelled. The rise of the dominatrix figure in modern times is often correlated with her re-ascension. To St John she was the cause of all evil.
The goddess of wisdom, Athena, is associated with snakes. To the hero who killed the gorgon medusa (herself a very beautiful and at the same time repellently monstrous female figure) she lent the power and wisdom for the venture. From the neck of the headless Medusa gushed up two elixirs, one that killed instantly, and another that healed completely and instantly. A less satisfactory conclusion, but it must be remembered, Medusa was turned into a gorgon because another goddess was jealous of her beauty.
In the movie ‘Dragonslayer’ an arrangement in a fairytale kingdom obtains which is often found in stories like that: the dragon is *appeased* every month – note that! Every MONTH – by the sacrifice of a virgin. Otherwise the monster would come out and ravage the land. Until the dragon is faced innocence and truth must be continually sacrificed for expediency and imagined safety; the mythic grandeur of the dragon is otherwise completely lost in the film though.
I know you don’t read but ‘Seidways’ by Jan Fries is wonderful on the subject of how the feminine and monstrous was cut off from us (and with it any chance of understanding ourselves properly) as the history of our current phase of civilization progressed. He has found serpent imagery in everywhere and in the unlikeliest of places. The situation that occurred as a result of the violent accession of Christianity to the political-religious throne was part of this pattern. A woman could only be worshipful after that if she was chaste. There was no room for capricious Inanna, no room to wrestle with the truth of love. It became a case of, just live with not knowing because to love is against the rules – yes I would put it that strongly.
I don’t regard anything as a solution, mostly because I don’t see anything as a problem, but simply turning one’s face away from an aspect of human nature is not worthy of us as a species. One cannot ‘surrender’, or indeed ‘love’ or indeed ‘fight’ anything without looking it full in the face. Not everyone on here is attuned to mythic imagery but as you have illustrated it is a powerful force for the personal understanding. It is absolutely universal in our world, this figure. Things that are universal should not be ignored!
Love j
September 6, 2007 at 11:56 am #24161wendyParticipantI really love your resonating energy Jason, just one little tiny thing I wish to add here, for me it is not just ‘imagery’.
Maybe it is the limitation of explaining this in the word-world but for me this is not only about the metaphorical story or the metaphysical world.The different layers and different worlds have merged. The boundary between the worlds faded away, stepping through the curtain…The dragon IS within me, in my innocense I choose to share my human heart, only later fear arose from what I read and heared, the fearful reactions of some friends. I was convinced I had made a mistake, for a long time I denied it, feared it. In fear I was ‘taken over’, possessed. And when someone said they felt some other energy with me I felt in danger, out-casted.
Only much later I learned to trust, find my inner earth and was able to share my heart without fear.
Never ever the dragon asked me anything.I am also clear I denied a part of me.
You see all the story lines merge, what is what on what level of existance, what is coming from where, what is ‘real’, and what is methaphysical.
I had no clue the dragon would share its wisdom, the cosmic heart with me…but the dragon is just one reality…there are other, more
but I need a deep breath for now…
September 6, 2007 at 12:02 pm #24163DogParticipantI to looked at this awhile ago, and came up with very similiar ideas. I saw that the way in which you start your Alchemical journey makes an impact on your view of the dragon. If you start in the cave you start with the hard stuff and make evrything else easy or you can start out side and it just gets harder. There are intersting scary beings in most cultures that opens up people, mixing and melting, destroying to be rebuilt. Thank you for sharring.
September 6, 2007 at 3:37 pm #24165NnonnthParticipant… I don’t treat it as metaphor either. To me it is living truth. Congratulations again you are clearly going very well. j
September 6, 2007 at 5:05 pm #24167NnonnthParticipant… i never speak about my experiences on here but this isn’t because I don’t have them. I just can’t speak about them.
What is happening to you I would say is shamanic. In a shamanic tribe it would be understood. The sequence of being opened to spirits, of having to move to the edge of society and take plunge into the wilderness, of doubting everything, it’s what shamans go through and it’s considered essential because it refreshes the connection of the people to the universe. It is destiny and not something that can be controlled. You get chosen for it, who has a context for these things nowadays? But it is happening everywhere. I want there to be a context for the process to be smoother.
When you come back from the wilderness you have a place of honour if people understand what you have done, but in this society they don’t understand. This is why I am constantly referring to the stories everyone tells and which everyone says are important, but which have been suppressed. I am talking elliptically about things I know, things that give me a shock of recognition, I am trying to give a context. They are coming home, these energies, and they will not be denied because they are needed. Indeed the stories are getting bigger yours is huge. They are reviving themselves in many people because it is time for this to happen and they can’t be held away any longer, humanity must know itself.
In all this confusion in the end truth comes out. I appended a description of the shamanic initiation/awakening from the perspective of a magician I really like, his article linked below. When I read it a couple of years back I started to realize what I was in for. Then everything began speaking.
j
September 6, 2007 at 6:21 pm #24169wendyParticipantJason,
It has a been a very dark night for many years
And feelings of being an outcast, a stranger amongst the othersNo guidelines, no elders to find refuge, no back up (in my darkest days Michael was my only refuge, having some kind of feedback, bringing my earth into place, my gratitude is life lasting)
It was a very lonely walk through the dark woods
but it made me strong, very strong, and with every closed door I grew stronger and softer, bringing more awareness, self esteem and self love…Today during my meditation I thanked the closed doors for what they offered, how it helped me to manifest what I am so far.
As for the speaking up, I can tell you, it makes a profound shift but I did not yet exposed all and I am not sure if I am up to that yet. But glad so far…try it some day, I listen well, as you do too….
September 6, 2007 at 7:36 pm #24171NnonnthParticipant… of course one day I will tell and add to the stories. You may have noticed that when I decide to say something it is not easy to shut me up! hahahahahahahaha ๐
But yes – no guidelines and no authorities. But you see this way what you bring is genuinely new if and when you succeed, something no-one else could bring. We are fortunate to have you around. I am sure that the energies you are opening up will be of great benefit to all, I really do think so! The alienation is profound because the situation is profound.
Good luck dahling! j
September 7, 2007 at 5:42 am #24173wendyParticipantJason, I did not read your link until just now and my reply of yesterday has pretty much the same content.
What I do want to add for anyone going to a similar process, is that after one of the deepest experiences I became slightly obsessed by a message given. Looking back I was possessed by the idea I had to actually realise this in the phyiscal, I surely have made several mistakes trying to accomplish that and some people surely must have thought I was slightly crazy. Somehow this boomeranged me right into the face and ever since I lived in silence, internally denying and rejecting, slapping myself for I had not understood the message within the message, how stupid could I have been, facing myself with this I was dropped back in my most painful issues of rejection. I rejected myself… this has been my deepest work and only recently I feel strong enough to come into the open again. And I notice already that it will be a new lesson in inner ‘believe’, I feel how ‘they’ are waiting for the next test, to see how much believe I really harvested, how strong my earth really is and how I will use it. It is absolutely a process in circles, coming back to the same issues over and over again, until you reach the heart of hearts, YOU as DIVINE.
Looking at your issues is perpetuum mobile for most of usFear and strength walk hand in hand, and it is only in the very moment, deciding to jump or not. I have the Fool as my soul card, so I have a tendancy to jump without thinking. Just do and see, somehow under my disbelieve and rejection I must have a very deep and strong believe and a very deep trust I will make it.
That is my personal quest and the treasure that is waiting for me…September 10, 2007 at 10:42 am #24175Michael WinnKeymasterThanks for sharing your own epic journeys into the underworld, wendy.
About the ddragon myth of St. George that has been given a healthy re-interpretation in your telling above:
I find it intereeting how different the dragon myth is in China, where it symbolizes p ower and good fortune, imperial rule, strength and abundance. Why so idfferent, if we’re all human and part of one mind?
I think it is because of the Lemurian roots of Taoism and Chinese culture – where the natural rising consciousness of the earth was never corrupted nor destroyed the way it was in Atlantis. That is why this radition holds a powerful and healthy model of rising earth consciousness for allpeople of today. But of course, nothing changes until you embody a myth, and experience an archetypal change in oneself.
smiling to your Dragons,
michaelSeptember 10, 2007 at 11:20 am #24177NnonnthParticipant… haven’t you noticed the big pro-dragon upsurge happening everywhere? Western-model dragons are being reinterpreted precisely as that – inner power and strength, beauty, etc. You won’t find a western wiccan who wouldn’t give their mum’s hind teeth to meet a dragon. Those St george-ish dragon-models were not universal even before now either – far from it, they were a coverup. What Wendy is doing is overthrowing a line of culture and rewriting a story, but not everyone was following that story – in fact the story was a blip in a far more pro-dragon approach in Europe that was squashed.
The ‘fear’ of the dragon is its kidney-thrill. It’s very common for what are called the ‘European Dark Age’ peoples to say that the human soul itself is a dragon. You (Michael) went to Lapland so you may know that the Noide say they can assume dragon-form to astrally project. In Nordic countries you find legends of women transforming into dragons and helping in that form to win battles alongside their husbands!
Dragons were often a metaphor for the exuberance of natural forces – it was the Christians who removed humanity from natural forces. I don’t want to keep banging on about Christianity because I’ve buried the hatchet personally but I still say it’s very twisted indeed, and this was part of its twist, that Wendy has been undoing.
As late as 1900 Alexander Carmichael reported a Scottish Day of Bride village ceremony involving a dragon emerging from a hole. Wonder if that’s still done anywhere? The early farming communities of Europe (neolithic) were full of dragon and serpent imagery in their pottery, and the Celts continued this right up to the Dark Ages. See the Celtic shrine at Lypiatt Park in Gloucestershire for example. Not to mention the Vikings!
Now –
The *actual* Saint George was Turkish, and the story of him v. the dragon was brought back to Europe with the CRUSADERS – spiritually impartial, these people were not! Georgie boy lived in 3rd c. AD Anatolia and his story was popular only really by the 10th c. It is NOT old and does NOT represent ‘what the west thinks about dragons’. It’s a blip.Don’t believe the hype!
j
September 10, 2007 at 2:27 pm #24179Alexander AlexisParticipant..surely you understand that western society, having been born out of fear and an earth mother despising paradigm, doesn’t know any of that stuff and insists on believing what it wants to believe about reality for its own purposes – to control rather than to relate to.
But thanks for the interesting facts anyway.
-A
September 10, 2007 at 2:58 pm #24181DogParticipant“The Cristians have no problem with magic as long as its there magic.”
I am paraphrasing
Isaac bonewits“in fact the story was a blip in a far more pro-dragon approach in Europe that was squashed.”
Squashed real good the cultures did not survive in any major form. Even if it had it would not have been the same because after fighting so much you often lose your way, accept for some nomadic tribes that tride to say out of it, like the romany, but they did not escape the holocaust. Most of the mystical teachings went to wining wars, they sold there soul to the devil as they say in the south, to win wars, this happened on both sides. Even the female tribal groups became masculin and war like in the end doing human sacrafices to win wars was not uncommon. What your community and other small tribal groups does knowadays is wonderfull but still no where near the dominate culture. The republic, democracy, law, euro classical music, frats, greek mythology, latan, perfected man(eugenics, genetics, spartan(perfect soldier) this is still the dominate. I am glad you brought up the sub-culture, but when generalizing do we not us the dominate theme?
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