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February 12, 2008 at 11:52 pm #27475MatthewQiParticipant
A while back, I think I asked about the inner “blue pearl” before and if there were any mention in taoist lit.
Well, I found this the other day. Looks the same as the poster sold on the Universal Tao site: http://www.healing-tao.com/tao-garden/universal/en/taoist-inner-alchemy-chart-pamphlet-incl-.html (I can see the blue pearl there).
In the link below it mentions the “blue pearl” at the top of the diagram.
Just thought I would share that in case anyone was interested. Although I know many Kundalites who see this also, I hadn’t seen it anywhere else but in the book “Play of Consciousness” by Swami Muktananda and also I think this is what is in the symbol at the upper left of this HT site? (but it looks purple). Anything you can add Michael?
Best,
Matt
stone tablet from Baiyunguan (White Cloud Monastery) in Beijing
February 13, 2008 at 5:44 pm #27476snowlionParticipantI have had this translated by three different teachers over the years that are pretty qualified teachers they all have agreed on a couple things here:
1. theres many pictographs here displaced for secrecy reasons
2. arcane language is in this rubing from artist/author
3. “blue pearl” writing from original states:“ni wan yin he yang shen yuan shen: the pearl or orb this piece is talking about center of head “niwan ” muddy pill center some believe the pituitary and pineal glands taoist say niwan. actually should be in center of head, but could mean transcendence..so naturally above could represent the cultivated niwan
Its considerd to be yin center of the yang shen’s manifestation and the residence of the original shen. But they also stated its hard guessing what the artist or eriter is thinking.
Intresting note here one master stated Master Yi Yuns(Chias Master) formulas were authentic and actually better than archane symbolism in Dao Zang text. One had high respects for Chias translations and approach since it is usually a silent(nonvocal process) for achieving spiritual progression, converted for anyone use in west.
he also thought inner smile, orbit fusions, kan and li (especially) kan and li could develop the ni wan gong. he said theres many version but all follow same approach
I love the color it adds so much, many people have their views on this Tang dynasty scroll. QI…….Sl
February 14, 2008 at 12:52 am #27478MatthewQiParticipantThanks Snowlion! very interesting. I have upmost respect for Tao and the sharing of authentic teachings 🙂
There is no question in my mind that the HT teachings are authentic or better can lead to true awakening. Unlike other systems, one prepares for it, and is taught in a manner to do it in a way that requires that one “own” their own experience vs. being dependent on another human being 🙂
Matt
February 14, 2008 at 7:20 pm #27480baguaParticipantThere is only awkening, not true or false.
If your “awakening” is something that is in the future, over there or back there, something that might happen, could happen or has the potential to happen then your Yi/Mindufullness is off in some far away place, just come back to the here and now and make love and be in union to that part of you that is always there, this is your Yuan shen and it is what you seek. Can you be happy with your yuan shen, can you merge with it, when one can they know how to live in a dynamic life.
happy valetines day,
bagua
February 14, 2008 at 9:15 pm #27482snowlionParticipantFebruary 15, 2008 at 10:51 pm #27484MatthewQiParticipantThis was in an email I received the other day: William Shakespeare said in his timeless play, Hamlet – There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
Jeesh, I wish I would of paid more attention in HS English, lol. Or maybe I am glad I didn’t 🙂
Matt
February 15, 2008 at 11:08 pm #27486MatthewQiParticipantsnowlion,
I guess I didn’t respond to the first part of your post, yes, that is what I have gathered from what I have read about it. but your description in the taoist context is new to me. So thanks again for sharing that.
Experientially, I noticed that I kept seeing this blue pearl when I sat on the toilet (sorry, but it is sorta funny / ironic). I would just be sitting with my eyes closed turned upward. After noticing it a number of times I was like, hmm, wonder what that is all about and did some research. This is years later now when I finally stumbled across it in the scroll.
I haven’t subscribed any meaning to it and this unspoken inner knowing of these things beyond the language aspect is in line with some other experiences on the inner alchemy path. Just neat to me that it is depicted in the scroll as I was curious about taoist info on it. Makes sense though with the pineal, pituitary, crystal palace connection.
Matt
February 21, 2008 at 8:33 am #27488JernejParticipantyour desciption does not specify if is front or upper or middle part of upper dan tien
have seen in one human a blue pearl
third eye (between the eyebrow) location, 1-1.5cm diameter (2r), 2-2,5cm behind the skin of eyebrow
there was a funnel openning of the body that started somewhere behind the pearl and was opening forward (and somewhat up), the pearl being somehow nested in it
the rest of the body
however the pearl and the funnel it was nested in did not open forward towards the third eye (between the eyebrows), but slightly and fully above (so a higher third eye location forward opening)the man was very inteligent
enjoyed nature
the rest of the body did not seem to be upped the same way, body was quite fleshy and thick boned otherwise
however some years later he did develop knee problems and was contemplating teeth implant as a solution
did not notice medidation/contemplation practice apart from his work which was very mental (forming complex intelectual strucutures)
no inordinary food habits
lately he has not been showing such manifestation, but then situations were not prone to closer observationhave also seen similar picturres on the cover of ingo swann’s book, star fire and ‘penetratrion’, though there are artisticly not totaly the same as above (but then he does speak of gazing and the purple pearl at third eye level, not blue pearl, in his purple fables)
for what is worth
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