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Another Breatharian case in India observed by scientists

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  • May 6, 2010 at 10:51 pm #34313
    Michael Winn
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    Fasting fakir flummoxes physicians
    By Rajeev Khanna
    BBC correspondent in Ahmedabad
    Doctors and experts are baffled by an Indian hermit who claims not to have eaten or drunk anything for several decades – but is still in perfect health.

    Prahlad Jani, a holy man, or fakir, who is over 70 years old, has just spent 10 days under constant observation in Sterling Hospital, in the western Indian city of Ahmedabad.

    During that time, he did not consume anything and “neither did he pass urine or stool”, according to the hospital’s deputy superintendent, Dr Dinesh Desai.

    Yet he is in fine mental and physical fettle, say doctors.

    Most people can live without food for several weeks, with the body drawing on its fat and protein stores. But the average human can survive for only three to four days without water.

    Followers of Indian holy men and ascetics have often ascribed extraordinary powers to them, but such powers are seldom subject to scientific inspection.

    Mouthwash

    “A series of tests conducted on him show his body mechanism is that of a normal person,” said Dr Desai.

    Mr Jani spends most of his time in a cave near the Ambaji temple in Gujarat state.

    He has never fallen ill and can continue to live like this
    Bhiku Prajapati, Mr Jani’s devotee

    He spent his 10 days in hospital in a specially prepared room, with a sealed-off toilet and constant video surveillance.

    To help the doctors verify his claims, Mr Jani agreed to avoid bathing for his time in hospital.

    The only fluid he was allowed was a small amount of water, to use as mouthwash.

    One hundred millilitres of water were given to him, and then collected and measured in a beaker when he spat it out, to make sure none had been drunk.

    Thank goddess

    A statement from Ahmedabad’s Association of Physicians says that despite no water entering his body, urine nonetheless appeared to form in his bladder – only to be re-absorbed by the bladder walls.

    At the end of his confinement, doctors noted no deterioration in his condition, other than a slight drop in his weight.

    “I feel no need for food and water,” says Mr Jani, who claims he was blessed by a goddess at the age of eight and has lived in caves ever since.

    He grew up in Charod village in Mehsana district and wears the dress of a devotee of the goddess Ambaji – a red sari-like garment, nose ring, bangles and crimson flowers in the hair.

    He also wears the vermilion “tika” mark on his forehead, more often seen on married Hindu women.

    His followers call him “mataji” or goddess.

    More tests

    He says he has survived several decades without food or water because of a hole in his palate.

    Drops of water filter through this hole, he says, sustaining him.

    “He has never fallen ill and can continue to live like this,” said Bhiku Prajapati, one of Mr Jani’s many followers.

    “A hole in the palate is an abnormal phenomenon,” says Dr Desai.

    His colleague, Dr Urman Dhruv, told the BBC a full medical report is being prepared on Mr Jani’s 10 days under observation.

    Doctors say they cannot verify his claim to have not eaten or drunk for decades – but by observing his feat under laboratory conditions, they hope to learn more about the human body.

    It is likely that doctors will want to examine Mr Jani again in order to solve the medical mystery he has presented them with.
    Story from BBC NEWS:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/3236118.stm

    Published: 2003/11/25 17:11:53 GMT

    May 8, 2010 at 6:28 am #34314
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Link to a free book online:

    http://www.amazingabilities.com/amaze5a.html

    May 8, 2010 at 10:02 am #34316
    c_howdy
    Participant

    Carried away by enthusiasm, he volunteered to show Lurgan Shahib one evening how the disciples of certain caste of faquir, old Lahore acquintances, begged doles by the roadside; and what sort of language he would use to an Englishman, to an Punjabi farmer going to a fair, and to a woman without veil. Lurgan Shahib laughed immensely, and begged Kim to stay as he was, immobile for half an hour – cross-legged, ash-smeared, and wild-eyed, in the back room
    -RUDYARD KIPLING, Kim

    Both Dervish (from Persian, lit. mendicant) and Fakir (Arabic lit. poor) have immediately very negative connotations.

    It’s clear that the forum rules don’t support senseless postings, but this guy was in the end quite special.

    They thought him completely loser, but was he?

    Serious practitioner maybe could even learn something from him.

    Maybe even good temporal disguise for the shadow warrior (shinobi).

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Swedish-Tramp-Curt-Degerman-Who-Collected_Tin-Cans-Leaves-A-1M-Fortune/Article/201003415589848?f=rss

    CURT-DEGERMAN-RICHEST-GARBAGE-MAN-FROM-SWEDEN

    http://www.thelocal.se/25804/20100329

    May 9, 2010 at 2:19 am #34318
    c_howdy
    Participant

    I recentle noticed that Fakir Musafar has nowadays quite elaborate website, but at least for me he is far too much a fetishist that I would like to explore anything more about his activities.

    But in one of the better books written by Paul Brunton, he describes his encounter (c. 1930s) with Egyptian fakir called Tahra Bey about whom there is very little information any other place.

    Well, it’s actually possible to order from the net his poster and there are also mentions of his name in several other connections, but I at least have impression that there is maybe even more than one fakirs by this same name.

    Also Harry Houdini was investigating somebody called Tahra Bey, but he’s not necessarily Brunton’s Tahra Bey.

    C HOWDY

    May 12, 2010 at 5:18 am #34320
    c_howdy
    Participant

    …damage to her biological tissues is known to heal relatively fast rate and she can form a resistance to poisons upon contracting them. Recently she has stated that her body mass is not fixed and can change when she does. While she retained her advanced powers, she now appears in her old form without scales. Her powers grant her immunity to diseases, enhanced agility, agelessness.
    -WIKIPEDIA article on Marvel Comics heroine Mystique

    I only wanted to add that what comes to the Tahra Bey, he is interesting because he should have developed so called healing factor at least to some degree. It’s normal context is of course completely fictitous one, belonging especially to the world of comics.

    Prahlad Jani is also very interesting because his researchers are really professionals unlike for example Paul Brunton in this respect. There was also quite big group of researchers and actual report is also available.

    Human body is very complicated but also very fragile.

    How fragile is Mr. (mataji?) Jani’s body doesn’t become evident because clearly his examiners are not just any mengeles, but polite scientists.

    HOWDY DOODYDOO

    May 29, 2010 at 4:05 am #34322
    c_howdy
    Participant

    http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/20031201_en.htm

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