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May 10, 2010 at 3:13 pm #34335Swedich DragonParticipant
Hello
I practise from Yudeloves books “100 days…” and “Taosit yoga and sexual energy” and have done almost all of the exercises in both of the books.
As Yudeloves states one of the main difference between hes system and Mantak Chias is the starting of consentrating on the tip of the nose, which induces the light to emerge. This method is also in the book Taoist yoga by Charles luuk.
A wery similar start is in the white tigress system according to Hsi Lai.
Here is my own experiences with those two system in respect to focusing at points around the eyes or at the tip of the nose:
I´ll start with the practise from the white tigress system. In this system you have to learn three main practises to be initiated as a jade dragon. A lover to a white tigress and her protector for three years, both financially and emotionally.
1 The sexual practises, with herbs to streanghtening Jing. With dual cultivation for the same pupoose and for health. With a qualified massage to the genitals and some more sexual techiques.
2 The qigong practise of sitting 8 peaces of a brocade
3 The starting meditation practise of focusing of the original cavity or ansestors hall, at the top back of between the two eyes.
I have done all three of this practises and are going a internet course with Hsi Lai, unfortunately it has stopped for severeal reasond for a long while, but I hope I can continuing it this summer.
I will here consentrate on the practise with the original cavity: For 20 minutes two times a day you sit and focus into the original cavity. With eyes directed to the tip of the nose and almost shut. I did this for about 2 to three months about two years ago. Did manage to practise those two 20 minutes practises for at least 5 days every week during that period of time.
What happened. There started to be flushes of light in the original cavity. The flushes were about at a frequency of 2 heartz or litle quicker, don´t remember exactly. In the beginning I thought it was the candle in the room behind me that did create the flushes, later I realised that it was internal.
During this meditation I got contact with my ansestors. I had tremendous dreams about theire life theire society and how it worked. I did get some information of the problems they had and how the relationship was between different classes in that society. One of the problems with the men was alcohol. I saw the landscape and the houses they lived in and I could imagine that this was about at the 18th or 19th century. The dreams were wery strong and they realy got my interest. I new those dreams are of so greate value that they are of a magnitude of dreams that not apear more than once or twice in a period of perhaps 5 year or so. Beacase of the importance of the dreams I did some investigation and found out that the original cavity also was named the ancestors hall, bingo! I also got a message that if I continue this I will get into contact with the real persons that are my ansestors, so far the contact was just a presentation of the society at a much larger context than the individual.
This dreams was one of the resons why I did choose to study with mr Hsi Lai, amoung some other resons as well.
In my practise from mr Yudeloves system, I did miss the importance of the practise of looking at the nose. I haven´t rely done it during my practise in a enough sincere way to get any results from it. I thougth the problems with my eyes and the discomfort was a reason to not do the practises.
During my contact with master Yudelove himself I got the information that these practise realy is important and perhaps more important than anything to come later in the univesal tao system and in mr Yudeloves own system. I have started to practis the looking at the tip of the noce practise a litle bit more than before and have got some effect.
I can feel that after a hectic day at work, staring at the noce after work realy quieting down the thoughts and are realy stilling the mind. I can feel some energy going in the direction from the tip of the nose into the third eye. I can imagine some wery low intence flashings of light in the third eyes, but wery sublim so far. I have not done the practises at all as dilligently as I did with the white tigress practises for two years ago.
For the moment I just practise the tip of the noce according to Yudelove in a sporadic way, when I feel to do it. But I plan to go more deep into the original cabity when I continuing with Hsi Lai.
So far I enjoy the original cavity more than the third eye. But I feel that these two ways of practising this probably is the same or at least wery conected in some way.
According to mr Yudelove the energy will come from the tip of the nose and go to the bump at the nose and further to the third eye and then into the crystal palace. But I haven´t understood what happen to the original cavity during the way from the third eye to the crystal palace. During the practise the ligth will apear and it will ligthen up the crystal palace and also start to waken up the tan-tien. It was a while ago since I read mr Hsi Lais description of this but I think if I remember right, there was to meridians that are connected to the original cavity that will waken up if you continuing practising this and they will have connection to the lower tan-tien and wake it up to a higher level of energy, and in the same time this will be a rooting process for the shen that will be rooted into the mother earth. If I remember right.
I think both of these practises, or if they are the same, or variations of the same theme, are realy exciting and I hope I will have the ability to investigate into them more in the future. Or realy I know I will do it sooner or later, they have already impressed upon me in such a way that I can´t let them be.
Also after I met Mantak Chia I had a dream of the light, that was realy strong. The light was coming from a star and was reflected though a neibours window into my apartment and the dream was telling me that if I continuing with this practise I would sooner or later come into contact with the light, that should revel to me the meaning of my life.
Wow I thougth this means that I have a meaning in my life and it means that I can come into contact with this meaning. That is so amasingly fantastic!! I knew that I would continuing to practise these practises for the rest fo my life. Both of the above statements after that you realy believe in them are so greate and so huge and of so big value at it would be realy stupid to not continue with this practise.
If I forget why I practise I realy just take the feelings of these dreams back and I emediately is back on track. The dream with the ligth was during my first year of practise. I have the confidence that this will happen to me, that I will be in contact with the light and that it will reveal the meaning of my life for me, this and a possibility to solve my health problem is the main reason for me practising in this system.
But It doesn´t matter to me how long it take before this happen, my belive is stronger than the time, it will come sooner or later, and there is realy no hurry. That just how I feel it.
Then that I think that I have found the thing in my life with this system or at least within the taoist yoga practise in another reason I want to continue with this practise.
When I did study Jungian Phsychology I new that that was something that was realy close to what was the thing I should be practising, but I also new that it was not that but something else that should be my thing. Then that Jungs greatest inspiration comes from taoist yoga above all other traditions he studied during hes life just makes things more interesting. Jung also write in hes foreword to Richard Wilhelms translation or the secret of the golden flower about the light. There you can read that the light will tell you the meaning of your life, but it will absolutely be something that you never had been able to imagine before you got the connection to the ligth.
SD About the light and my few efforts to reach the light, but the big impact upon the meaing of the light and its connection to the meaning of my life.
So huge, so proufound, so deep, that it isn´t possible to describe. A beliefe in the deepest corners of my soul.
All for today
SD
May 10, 2010 at 3:37 pm #34336wendyParticipantSD,
That sounds all very authentic and honest,
thank you for sharing your experiences with your practices
I hope to hear more of where you are going with it…Wendy
May 10, 2010 at 11:42 pm #34338singing oceanParticipantI have noticed flashes of light before also. It is interesting in alchemical taoism how they talk bout the stars and their different qualities, how their are dark stars as well as light stars. I think the dark stars emit clear light.
May 11, 2010 at 12:33 pm #34340Swedich DragonParticipantThanks alot Wendy.
I´m shore will share with all of you, especially if I¨m make
any improvements!SD
May 11, 2010 at 12:36 pm #34342Swedich DragonParticipantOhhh realy, I have never heard about that difference.
I feel like quite soon in the futrue I have to read more
about the achemical practises. I found a book I want to read
as soon as I have my financial situation under some controll.I´m feel like a complete beginner, but I´m shore I will investigate it
sincerely at least at some level in my future 🙂And I happy to have all of you there on the forum to talk with! 🙂
SD
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