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zen and chan and taoist alchemy

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  • April 8, 2005 at 10:29 pm #4188
    esotericwarrior
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    I have also watched the debate with deep interest but I was surprised at the fact that noone seemd to mention zen is not original.It was transported from china to japan.In China it was known as Chan.I am sure you guys probably know this already, but Chan had a very in-depth and powerful qigong system.For the most part that was not transported to Japan.Zen may have only sitting in stilness practice but original zen (Chan) and its parent form India, Dhyana, both contianed chi gong practices.Ta Mo that transported it to the Shaolin Temple taught the muscle/tendon changing Chi gong and Marrow washing.Both are said by true Shaolin buddhist monks to be necessary for true enlightenment.I have even heard that some zen monasteries teach chi gong to certain students but it is kepy very secret.Any way, just my two cents (maybe three) 🙂

    April 11, 2005 at 10:06 pm #4189
    monucka
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    I’ve been looking for books on Chan cultivation- other than the sometimes maligned Nan Huai-Chin, I can’t find much- a travelogue/adventure called Bones of the Master (which was good, but not much help), and some translations by Lu Kuan Yu (Charles Luk) that I haven’t read yet, but seem to be more sutras than practice guides. Do you know of any resources? I can’t even find Chan teachers anywhere in my state. . – j

    April 11, 2005 at 11:40 pm #4191
    esotericwarrior
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    I would suggest that you study with one of the REAL shaolin monks that are in the states.Don’t get caught up in the wushu junk (unless you want that) but if you find and study with one of the real one’s you will se a rich source of some very powerful chi gong.I know of Shi Guolin in New York, he is supposed to be the best in the U.S. what state are you in?

    April 12, 2005 at 2:00 pm #4193
    monucka
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    CO. I’m not just interested in their qigong, although i’m sure it’s interesting- i’m interested in their meditation system as well.

    April 12, 2005 at 3:31 pm #4195
    Simon V.
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    You might find some of what you’re looking for in Wong Kiew Kit.
    His website:
    http://www.wongkk.com/index.html

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