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July 23, 2016 at 10:33 pm #46884ribosome777Participant
Did this an “choose to die”, or
did he underestimate the laws of physics which sent him tumbling over the slide edge?
He ended up with fractured ribs and bones one way or the other.
Likewise,
If someone hydroplanes in a car in the rain and kills 8 people in 5 cars with a truck flipped over and exploding,
did anyone “choose” to die?
Didn’t they have work schedules, family commitments, budget issues for new tires,
and a host of complex factors while they all ended up on a common road?Life is a set of intersecting possibilities, probabilities, and circumstances.
Do you see “God” stopping the water under the tires under the most devout of adherents? Do you see “God” stopping “rebel” bullets or diseases, fat clogged hearts?
No. If you are hearing that you are mentally ill, it’s because you are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x8RnvwZ84U
August 10, 2016 at 11:43 pm #46885russellnParticipantthis is a big issue, about what hindu yogis call grace or assistance, keeping from harm, and granting good fortune. The idea is that’s why we cultivate true nature. Astrology addresses karma and yogis will suggest you see one if wanting to know what it can say about your individual circumstances. I recall in late 70s hearing a well known yoga teacher talking informally about how Lord Shiva does not know he’s ‘grinding you’ and that your practice makes him aware so he can render assistance (grace)- via his consort. Yogis say you do this through practice and penance (tapasya)like standing still and witnessing the storms within until they settle. These are basic concepts. Nevertheless I agree it is hard not to become enraged at what seems to be the lack of assistance to seemingly worthy people, and all of humanity. In terms of HT practice as taught here it seems to me the 5 shen are on auto pilot and behave stupidly unless refined, asked to cooperate and connect to higher shen for help and guidance. Seems we go thorough periods of being aware of just how stupid they are and how that might have come about – ancestors, past conditioning, being part of a group or even humanity. Even the energies absorbed from the earth moon sun Saturn express via habits and stupidity until brought together in the core. Annoying but that’s the alchemist’s path and what other path is there anyway. Rest is just babble for children. Just being aware is too slow, “progress at the rate of an ox cart” in yoga. The late Stuart Wilde, an author and teacher of sorts, used to call religions ‘cosmology for goat-herders.’ Keeps the children on a better moral track and that is better than it could be otherwise, but no answers to the kind of questions you ask. Taking the view that there is good in everything is too charitable sometimes when clear discrimination is needed. Small intestine good/bad discrimination, leading to a good healthy large intestine experience. Neptune is on the dragons tail now, excellent for a good tail end release of untrue concepts and naïve thinking. Dragon needs to fire out the back end. Improving our lot, setting things up for good fortune, keeping from harm, all concerns of the practitioner. Maybe an I ching practice would interest you, if you don’t use that already.
August 15, 2016 at 9:33 am #46887September 3, 2016 at 4:24 am #46889c_howdyParticipantWhile vermouth can be used as a substitute for white wine in food recipes, because it is more flavorful than wine, it may be overwhelming when used in certain dishes. The herbs in dry vermouth make it an attractive ingredient in sauces for fish dishes or as a marinade for other meats, including pork and chicken.
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-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old-Time_Religion…this is a big issue, about what hindu yogis call grace or assistance…
What about this Anneliese Michel case?
Special kind of assistance?
Also more like curse instead of grace?
HOWDY
September 3, 2016 at 7:03 am #46891c_howdyParticipantConsumption of wines fortified with herbs and/or roots is believed to have begun in China at least as early as the Shang and Western Zhou dynasties in (12501000 BC). The extra ingredients were added to wine to make it a medicinal drink. Wormwood wine also played a key role in India around 1500BC. Recipes for infusing white wine date back to ancient Greece from around 400 BC. A popular ingredient was wormwood, based on the belief that it was effective at treating stomach disorders and intestinal parasites. D’Alessio’s version of the libation contained other botanical ingredients in addition to wormwood. Competing brands developed shortly thereafter in eastern and southeastern France contained their own, proprietary mix of ingredients, including herbs, roots, and spices.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VermouthArtemisia absinthium (absinthe, absinthium, absinthe wormwood, wormwood) is a species of Artemisia, native to temperate regions of Eurasia and Northern Africa and widely naturalized in Canada and the northern United States. It is grown as an ornamental plant and is used as an ingredient in the spirit absinthe as well as some other alcoholic drinks.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_absinthiumSîta is another of the tale’s protagonists. She is daughter of Mother Earth, adopted by King Janaka and Rama’s beloved wife. Rama went to Mithila (located in Janakpur, Nepal) and got a chance to marry her by breaking the Shiv Dhanush (bow) while trying to tie a knot to it in a competition organized by King Janaka of Nepal in Dhanusa. The competition was to find the most suitable husband for Sita and many princes from different states competed to win her. Sita is the avatara of the goddess Lakshmi, the consort of Vishnu. Sita is portrayed as the epitome of female purity and virtue. She follows her husband into exile and is abducted by the demon king Ravana. She is imprisoned on the island of Lanka, until Rama rescues her by defeating Ravana. Later, she gives birth to Lava and Kusha.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramayana#CharactersHalâhala (Sanskrit हलाहल) or kâlakûṭa (Sanskrit कालकूटं, literally: ‘black mass’ or ‘time puzzle’) is the name of a poison (as per Hindu mythology) created from the sea when Devas (Gods) and Asuras (Demons) churned it (see Samudra manthan) in order to obtain Amrita, the nectar of immortality.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halahala…Lord Shiva does not know he’s ‘grinding you’ and that your practice makes him aware so he can render assistance (grace)- via his consort…
Ramayana is quite nice Vaishnava version of the same occult things; for example book below is surprisingly good translation of it unlike ‘The Concise Srimad Bhagavatam’ by same translator which otherwise is in it’s own way much more practical.
…nevertheless I agree it is hard not to become enraged at what seems to be the lack of assistance to seemingly worthy people, and all of humanity…
Sorry but my opinion is that self-important/indulgent sinners don’t need too intimate personal supervision.
…yogis say you do this through practice and penance (tapasya) like standing still and witnessing the storms within…
Have something really changed?
HOWDY
http://www.amazon.com/Concise-Ramayana-Valmiki-Swami-Venkatesananda/dp/0887068634/
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