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March 21, 2018 at 3:10 pm #51809c_howdyParticipant
On July 28, 2009, at around 19:20 Moscow time (16:20 GMT), Ivankov was shot while leaving a restaurant on Khoroshevskoye Road in Moscow. A sniper rifle was found abandoned in a nearby parked vehicle.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyacheslav_Ivankov#2009_assassination-
The initiator and leader of the organization was Danny “The Hood” Fitzpatrick (born 26 February 1953, assassinated 18 June 1998). He was serving an eight-year sentence for an armed robbery committed in Stockholm in 1992. He was also suspected of murdering a police officer in connection to another armed robbery in Högdalen the same year. The Brotherhood recruited some of the worst and most infamous criminals in Sweden.Their members were serving sentences for armed robberies, drugs, murder, attempted murder of police officers etc. Among other things the rules of The Brotherhood demanded that the members had to serve time in a security prison and refuse to participate in any rehabilitation programs and refuse to give specimen of urine for drug control. They also had to show court documents to prove that they weren’t snitches. The prison authorities sent The Brotherhood members to solitary confinement and relocated members to other prisons in an effort to break up the organization. But these actions backfired and instead the organization spread to several other prisons. During the period 1996-1997 The Brotherhood is estimated to have consisted of 80-90 inmates and they had a strong influence over other inmates as well as the prison staff. According to Police and prison authorities records Brotherhood members were highly active in crime inside the prisons, mainly in drug dealing and violent crimes. A number of murders inside the Kumla and Tidaholm security prisons during the 90’s are believed to have been committed by The Brotherhood. A Brotherhood member is still serving a life sentence for murdering another inmate at the Tidaholm prison in 1998. According to the Police investigation the inmate was murdered for slandering the President of The Brotherhood.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%B6draskapet#The_founding_of_The_Brotherhood
Robert Alan “Bob” Levinson (born March 10, 1948) is an American former Drug Enforcement Administration and Federal Bureau of Investigation agent who disappeared mysteriously in 2007 in Kish Island, Iran. He is believed to be currently held captive by the government of Iran. He disappeared on March 9, 2007, when visiting Iran’s Kish Island while supposedly researching a cigarette smuggling case.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Levinson-
http://time.com/5205467/donald-trump-death-penalty-drug-traffickers-opioid/
By MAYA RHODAN March 19, 2018
President Donald Trump announced a new plan on Monday to combat the opioid crisisthat includes sentencing some drug traffickers to the death penalty when appropriate under current law. During an afternoon speech in New Hampshire, in which he also placed some blame for the opioid crisis on immigrants, the president praised countries that “don’t play games” on drugs and called for changes. “We have to change the laws,” he said.
New Hampshire has been hard hit by opioids, which have contributed to spikes in overdose deaths in recent years. The White House’s plan will also include calls for stricter enforcement, including the invocation of mandatory minimum sentences for lower levels of some opioids, more public awareness and expanded access to treatment and recovery programs.
The announcement to push executions fits with Trump’s previous statements on the death penalty and drug dealers.
Last week, he said drug dealers “kill 2,000, 3,000, 5,000 people during the course of his or her life” and only go to jail for “30 days, 60 days, 90 days — you might get a year” during a rally for a Republican candidate in Pennsylvania. During that rally, the president said that China and Singapore don’t have drug problems because they have the death penalty for dealers.
“The only way to solve the drug problem is through toughness,” he said. “When you catch a drug dealer, you’ve got to put him away for a long time.”
The president used similar language at White House summit on opioids earlier in March. “Some countries have a very tough penalty, the ultimate penalty, and they have much less of a drug problem than we do,” he said.
Trump has also praised the approach of Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte, whose “war on drugs” has led to the killing of thousands of citizens, many at the hands of the Philippines National Police, according to Human Rights Watch. According to a transcript of a call he had with Duterte in April of last year, Trump appeared to congratulate the leader of the Philippines for the “unbelievable job” he is doing with the “drug problem.”
“Many countries have the problem, we have a problem, but what a great job you are doing and I just wanted to call and tell you that,” Trump said on the call, according to the Intercept. The two leaders have also showcased their friendly relationship in bilateral meetings despite the leader’s alleged human rights abuses.
The U.S. and other nations have moved away from instituting capital punishment. Globally, 141 countries have abolished the practice and in 2016, 23 countries killed over 1,000 people with the most deaths occurring in China, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, according to Amnesty International.
But President Donald Trump has long called for the use of the death penalty in the U.S., typically framing it as a “law and order” issue.
“In order to bring law and order back into our cities, we need the death penalty and authority given back to the police,” Trump told Playboy in 1990.
He’s also called for the death penalty in a number of specific cases.
In the late-1980s, he placed full-paged ads in New York newspapers that called for the execution of black and Latino teens who were accused of assaulting and raping a white woman who went jogging in Central Park. (The teens, known as the Central Park Five, were later exonerated. Trump maintains they were guilty.)
According to reports ahead of the President’s New Hampshire appearance, Trump is calling for tougher penalties for opioid-related trafficking, but he will call for the death penalty only when it is applicable under current law.
Under federal law, the death penalty can be applied in some drug trafficking cases when a death occurs, according to the Death Penalty Information Center. Still, the president’s focus on enforcement has troubled some drug policy advocates.
“Threatening execution of drug dealers is doubling down on a ‘war on drugs’ that has been an abject failure and, in fact, led to the deaths of quite a lot of people both in the U.S. and other parts of the world,” Widney Brown of the Drug Policy Alliance tells TIME. “It hasn’t done anything to stop the supply of drugs. It hasn’t lessened drug use.”
March 21, 2018 at 6:03 pm #51810c_howdyParticipantMarch 22, 2018 at 7:07 pm #51815c_howdyParticipantVicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Act 2013 is an act of the Parliament of Queensland, enacted to “severely punish members of criminal organisations that commit serious offenses”. The act aimed to “come down harshly on outlaw motorcycle gangs and their members” and was one of three passed in the same session on 16 October 2013, going into effect immediately.[citation needed] The associated acts enacted on the same date were the Criminal Law (Criminal Organisations Disruption) Amendment Act 2013 and the Tattoo Parlours Act 2013.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicious_Lawless_Association_Disestablishment_Act_2013#cite_note-RyanABC_16Oct13-1-
The Danish government plans to double the penalties for crimes committed in deprived “ghetto” areas, where immigrant numbers are above-average.
-http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43214596-
1996: Litvinenko is asked to join a new unit of the FSB (formerly the KGB), which is set up to combat organised crime and known as URPO. It was later revealed that the unit fought crime with illegal methods.
-https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11366679/Alexander-Litvinenko-Key-moments-of-the-life-of-a-Russian-spy.html-
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-30/queensland-reworks-anti-bikie-laws-toughest-crime-laws/8077572
Queensland reworks anti-bikie laws into ‘toughest crime laws in Australia’
By Gail Burke
Updated 30 Nov 2016, 3:40amWed 30 Nov 2016, 3:40am
State Parliament passed the Serious and Organised Crime Legislation Amendment Bill last night with the help of Katter’s Australian Party (KAP) MPs.
While outlaw motorcycle gangs will still be targeted, the bill also covers other organised crime including child exploitation rings, fraudulent boiler room operations and drug trafficking.
The bill extends the banning of outlaw motorcycle club members wearing their club colours to all public places, not to just licenced premises, as was dictated under the LNP laws.
They replace existing anti-association provisions with a new consorting offence, making it illegal for a person to consort with two or more convicted offenders after being warned by police not to do so.
Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said the new laws would give Queensland the toughest organised crime laws in the country.
“My government is proud to have delivered a package of organised crime laws that will tackle everything from child exploitation rings to financial fraudster groups and outlaw motorcycle gangs,” she said.
Attorney-General Yvette D’Ath said there had not been one conviction under the previous Newman government’s Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment (VLAD) laws.
“The taskforce report on organised crime legislation found the LNP’s laws were unable to secure convictions and remained vulnerable to legal challenge,” Mrs D’Ath said.
“Importantly, these laws are subject to judicial oversight and proper processes to ensure its legal standing and sustainability.”
The Opposition was critical of the changes, saying the LNP’s anti-bikie laws had worked and the changes were a concession to bikies.
Opposition Leader Tim Nicholls said crime fell in 2014 after the LNP introduced the VLAD laws.
He said winding them back would lead to a resurgence of problems.
“The crims know they have nothing to fear from this Government. They know for all their talk and all their rhetoric, when it comes down to it, they will go to jelly — they don’t have the intestinal fortitude to drive the criminal gangs out of Queensland to protect Queenslanders.”
The VLAD laws were introduced after a bikie brawl outside a restaurant at Broadbeach on the Gold Coast in September 2013.
Member for Surfers Paradise John-Paul Langbroek said residents were concerned about a bikie resurgence.
“This bill is nothing but a kick in the guts for Gold Coast locals, ” he said.
The LNP’s Tracy Davis argued the consequences of changing the laws would hurt ordinary Queenslanders.
“Police were able to catch more drug offenders and get the drugs off our streets and, Deputy Speaker, as a mother of a daughter who got caught up in substance abuse, methylamphetamine, I will do everything that goes towards getting drugs off our streets,” she said.
Passage of the new laws looked in doubt when independent MP Rob Pyne said he would abstain and KAP MPs said they would use their vote to gain concessions from the ALP on other issues.
But KAP’s Rob Katter and Shane Knuth eventually sided with the minority government.
Mr Katter would not reveal if a deal had been done to secure sweeteners for their electorates.
“It’s always important to both the Opposition and the Government that they know what is high on our agenda because we work with both sides in trying to work through this Parliament, for instance, with the rural bank,” he said.
“That’s a very important issue for us and if there’s no buy-in for that then we could be very important people to deal with.”
Mr Katter said they felt the new crime laws would help people living in south-east Queensland.
“You can’t be completely ignorant to what are priorities down here so we’ve got a conscience and we’ve still got our principles.
“We can’t walk away from legislation if it seems like it does a job and does a good job.”
May 3, 2018 at 5:47 pm #52471c_howdyParticipantJune 16, 2018 at 12:45 pm #52632c_howdyParticipanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrA7fDWBI0M
Sorry, but this is not any kind of hate material, but question here is what it would be if someone is first of all tough guy and career criminal, and when he gets caught becomes an eunuch?
What about that?
Sorry for my broken English.
HOWDY
Ps. Castration sculpture at the Beijing Eunuch Culture Exhibition Hall below.
DONALD TRUMP:
Some countries have a very tough penalty, the ultimate penalty, and they have much less of a drug problem than we do.
June 16, 2018 at 5:38 pm #52633rideforeverParticipantHmmm …. what is US culture about really ?
Recently I heard a comment by a teacher I rate extremely highly who said that there are a few students who come to see him who are quite strange, they are fake inside. And that America is the country these people come from.
Is America the home of fake ?
Right now there is the World Cup 2018. For those of you that don’t know the world’s favourite sport is Football. Or as you call it Soccer. But the other 8 Bn people call it Football.
And in this game people play Football for up to 50mins without stopping, theoretically. In fact on averate stop every 3 mins or so, if the ball goes out, and the ball re-enters play after 10 secons. The whole idea of the game is to play continuously without breaks.
There is another game called Rugby, similarly the ball can be continously in play for long periods of time even maybe 10mins, before the ball goes out. Then they begin again in 10seconds.
And this is the goal of these games to have continuous play without interruption.
Now let’s look at US NFL “Football” or American Football.
The ball is in play for 10 seconds whilst 20 meatheads all wearing Iraq War Body Armour smash into each others faces before lying on the ground and some prison wardens through actual flags all over the ground.
Then it’s a 5 minute break where they have a group hug and “think” of strategy for the next … 10 seconds of game time.
This game is a joke for the rest of the world. A total joke.
I just read that one NFL “Football” game lasts about 3 hrs and the ball is in play for only 11 minutes.
Ha, what a joke.
MONEY. That is all it is about. It is fake, fake, fake, fake, fake.
It’s just about advertising, just think of how much advertising you can fit in with so many stoppages, no-one is watching anyway, the crowd is full of fake emotions. Humans are just being reduced to a low level to be farmed.Is the US completely fake ?
I don’t know, some good things come out of America, not sure how.
Anyway, I don’t think this planet is meant to be heaven with mankind the way it is … and other countries are quite backwards, apparently.
But fake is something different. It is okay to be backwards, but to be fake, that is painful and ugly.
I also understand that male homosexual rape in prison in the US is extremely common, expected, and the inmates form themselves into gangs who rape each other.
What kind of society is this ?
Animals.
These 2 facts reflect something dark and ugly and bestial in US culture.
Perhaps you can’t expect more from a 200 year old country.
But one thing for sure is that if you get on a boat to the promised land, you will not find it.
Because it is not out there.
I used to live in Miami when I was young.
But I doubt I will set foot on US soil again.
Without money it’s just a jungle.June 27, 2018 at 3:54 pm #52659c_howdyParticipant…the crims know they have nothing to fear from this Government. They know for all their talk and all their rhetoric, when it comes down to it, they will go to jelly — they don’t have the intestinal fortitude to drive the criminal gangs out of Queensland to protect Queenslanders…
Sorry, but this isn’t any hate material, but what about this guy below about whom you can read about below?
…the man made obscene gestures at the camera…
HOWDY
https://theoldcontinent.eu/sweden-triple/
The suspect is a 21-year-old from Sundbyberg, a municipality in Stockholm County, in the East of Sweden. Although he didn’t do too well in elementary school, he did go on to high school. His upbringing and youth he calls “safe” and apart from some tickets he got for riding a moped without wearing a helmet, minor offences threatening only his own safety, he has no criminal record. Neither has he ever paid a penny in income tax.
Yet he is in court now, facing charges in what the public prosecutor Olof Calmvik calls “an extremely complex investigation“. On 22 January, a man travelling in his car in Sundbyberg was shot. One of his passengers then drove him to hospital, but on the way there, the car was rammed and the man shot again. The man later died of his wounds after getting to the hospital. “The victim had a criminal record. We believe there was a conflict,” says Calmvik. Police arrested a man in his 20s, on suspicion of murder or complicity in murder.
On March 8, a man and a woman were cut to death in Hallonbergen, a suburb North of Stockholm. According to Expressen, the man had reason to be suspicious and called the police some time before the attack. The killers got in nevertheless, stabbing the woman before leaving her to die, while chasing the man. He, meanwhile, had escaped through a window. Police arrived at the scene too late to save the man’s life, although shots were fired in an attempt to stop the killing. Three suspects – all male and in their early twenties – were arrested on the spot and have been detained ever since. A fourth was arrested three weeks later.
During the subsequent investigation, a link was found with the January killing. One of the victims is rumoured to have been heard as a witness in the shooting, with the possible motive for the killings being an attempt to stop the testimony.
The 21-year-old from Sundbyberg is facing the most serious charges: he is being charged with three murders and leading his group of friends to murder. Since being arrested, he had undergone the required ‘Section 7’ mental examination, with the doctor noting “meaningful conversation has not been possible.”
While the suspect calls himself a “genius in cheating” in school and says he is religious and does not use drugs, he lied when asked whether or not his parents are alive. “In the next life,” he reportedly answered, while only one of them passed away. While he calls himself “170% healthy” the coroner recommends an extensive investigation to find out if the 21-year-old is not mentally ill.
During the detention hearing, the man made obscene gestures at the camera and called Calmvik “a monster.” He has since fired his defence counsel, who wrote the court requesting his dismissal on the basis that “NN at the recent inquest raised very serious accusations against me which make it impossible for me to carry out my job.” Even so, the case now moves forward against the 21-year-old and his seven friends and suspected partners in crime.
August 15, 2018 at 3:05 pm #52823c_howdyParticipant…scary individuals…? (3:00=>)
Sorry no hate postings, but does somebody else think that these type of bikers for example automatically deserve so called capital punishment?
HOWDY
August 17, 2018 at 2:57 pm #52831c_howdyParticipantMost Romanian artists have regarded Vlad as a just ruler and a realistic tyrant who punished criminals and executed unpatriotic boyars to strengthen the central government.
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler#National_hero-
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/16/us-drug-overdose-deaths-opioids-fentanyl-cdc
August 18, 2018 at 9:53 am #52832c_howdyParticipantThose who haven’t been full time bikers don’t know what it’s about.
Sorry for my broken English.
HOWDY
August 22, 2018 at 4:58 pm #52871c_howdyParticipantSorry for the violent imagery, but it’s not anyway hate material.
HOWDY
August 25, 2018 at 4:34 am #52881c_howdyParticipanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3BooGaGyAY
Human sacrifice was common to many parts of Mesoamerica. Thus the rite was nothing new to the Aztecs when they arrived to the Valley of Mexico, nor was it something unique to pre-Columbian Mexico. Other Mesoamerican cultures, such as the Purépechas and Toltecs, performed sacrifices as well and from archaeological evidence, it probably existed since the time of the Olmecs (1200–400 BC), and perhaps even throughout the early farming cultures of the region. Although the extent of human sacrifice is unknown among several Mesoamerican civilizations, such as Teotihuacán, what distinguished Maya and Aztec human sacrifice was the importance with which it was embedded in everyday life.-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice_in_Aztec_culture-
September 19, 2018 at 9:34 am #53084c_howdyParticipantBy Sam Roberts
July 20, 2018Barry Mills, the brutal leader of the white supremacist prison gang called the Aryan Brotherhood, died on July 8 behind bars, where he had spent nearly three-quarters of his life, transforming himself from a teenage misfit to a charismatic national crime boss. He was 70.
His death, a day after his birthday, was confirmed by the Federal Bureau of Prisons. He had been serving four life terms at the maximum security penitentiary in Florence, Colo., where he was found dead in his cell. Randy Keller, the Fremont County coroner, said there was no evidence of foul play.
Bald, brawny and mustachioed, Mr. Mills sported sinister dark sunglasses (his eye had been injured in a prison brawl) and was known deferentially as the Baron.
But his avocation defied the stereotype of a vengeful killer: He enjoyed embroidering.
Mr. Mills was among 40 people indicted in 2002 for committing 32 murders, or trying to. They were charged under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, typically invoked to prosecute organized-crime figures.
In a case against four of the ringleaders that took four months to present in 2006, the government played tape-recorded phone calls and videos and exhibited a coded message, written in urine, that declared war in 1997 against an African-American rival gang, the D.C. Blacks, in the federal prison in Lewisburg, Pa. The battle left two members of the D.C. Blacks dead.
The four defendants, including Mr. Mills and Tyler D. Bingham, the second in command of the Aryan Brotherhood, were found guilty of racketeering and conspiracy and of murders dating to 1979.
Mr. Mills was also convicted of inciting the Lewisburg riot, and of the attempted decapitation in 1979 of an inmate in a bathroom stall of the federal prison in Atlanta for cheating the Brotherhood in a drug deal.
The jurors deadlocked on imposing the death penalty for Mr. Mills and Mr. Bingham, which the government had hoped would purge the Aryan Brotherhood from the prison system once and for all. But they were persuaded to return guilty verdicts on virtually every count.
“The real reason for their murders,” the prosecutor argued, “is because Barry Mills and Tyler Bingham believe that they have the right — the sovereign right — to dispense life and death.”
Mr. Mills was sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.
The Aryan Brotherhood originated in San Quentin State Prison in California around 1964 and metastasized to lockups around the country. Its members, all white, claimed that they had banded together to protect themselves against gangs of black and Mexican inmates.
But the authorities eventually implicated the Brotherhood in monopolizing drug dealing, gambling, extortion, prostitution and other prison rackets, as well as murdering guards and rivals, fomenting racial warfare among prisoners, recruiting ex-convicts as accessories and even extorting tribute from John Gotti, the Mafia boss. Mr. Gotti was assaulted by a black fellow inmate in 1996 after he had stopped paying the Aryan Brotherhood for protection.
The Aryan Brotherhood, also known as the Brand — members were tattooed, typically with a green shamrock, the abbreviation AB or the number 666, known in the Bible as “the number of the beast” — was a hierarchical gang headed by a two- or three-member commission, which had included Mr. Mills since around 1980.
Barry Byron Mills was born on July 7, 1948, in Windsor, Calif., a tiny grape-growing town near Santa Rosa in Sonoma County.
As an antsy 19-year-old with felonious ambitions, he headed south for Ventura, where, as he alighted from a Greyhound bus, he was arrested on charges of stealing a car from his hometown country club. He was remanded to the Sonoma County Honor Farm. He escaped after a few months.
A week after his escape from the honor farm, he and a partner robbed a 7-Eleven store of $775. They were arrested three hours later. Incriminated by his accomplice, Mr. Mills was sentenced to five years in San Quentin, where he eagerly insinuated himself into the newly organized Aryan Brotherhood.
Shortly after he was released in 1977, he was arrested and charged with plotting a bank robbery in Fresno with other gang members while they were all in San Quentin. The robbers expected to net at least $2 million. They escaped with all of $21,000, until another informant gave them away. Mr. Mills was caught, convicted and sentenced to 20 years in a federal prison.
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He was also convicted in 2006 on the basis of statements from former gang members, who defense lawyers said had been promised favorable treatment in return for their testimony.
Information on survivors was not immediately available.
“Blood in, blood out” was the gang’s code, prosecutors said. It meant that an initiate had to kill to join, and that the only way to leave was to die.
“There is justified violence in our society,” Mr. Mills once explained. “If you disrespect me or one of my friends, I will readily and to the very best of my ability engage you in a full combat mode.
“That’s what I’m about.”
Editors’ Note: August 15, 2018An earlier version of this obituary included quotations said to be from two lawyers, Mark Montgomery and Frank Sansoni, who were said to have represented Mr. Mills at his trial in 2006. H. Dean Steward, who with Mark Fleming represented Mr. Mills at that trial, told The Times that he had never heard of either man. Subsequent research was unable to find any evidence of either man’s existence. The quotations were taken from a book, “Blood In, Blood Out: The Violent Empire of the Aryan Brotherhood,” by John Lee Brook. Efforts to reach Mr. Brook have been unsuccessful. All references to the book and quotations from it have been removed from the obituary.
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