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Fusion : Overly Complex and Undirected ?

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  • August 26, 2018 at 4:43 pm #52884
    rideforever
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    Hello

    I would like to make forward progress with MW’s courses however every time I look at the Fusion practices I get a headache.   To me it seems like a mess of jumbled practices cobbled together with little understanding or direction.   It is not longer possible for me to do things just for things sake.

    In fact I have a CD from Boston Healing Tao that summarises the Fusion 1,2,3 practices in 2 guided meditations.   And that’s it.

    So is that actually it ?   Is everything else in the Fusion packages just additional bumf ?   I know Mantak Chia likes to attach the kitchen sink to all his books so that by the end of it you have no idea what the original purpose was ?

    After several years studying my current practice from the perspective of MW’s courses is :

    QE1 5 Animals : Yes I do this and then some

    QE2 orbits : I used BKF H&E instead for various important reasons

    QE3 breathing : I do the form for time to time and also belly breathing meditation

    QE4 bones : I am not very interesting in bone charging seems like a waste of time as it doesn’t last, I do ZZ every day using Lam Kam Chuen and others

    So that’s how I approximate the MW path.

    I suppose I could do the Boston Healing Tao meditations now and see how that goes.

    Does that mean I would be cleared to do the next Formulas ?

    There is zero chance of me wading through the gazillion fusion formulaes as they seem to be right now.

    ??

     

    August 27, 2018 at 9:54 pm #52893
    c_howdy
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    In my opinion one should look for perfection only in one’s own performance and being and see everything else as peripheral.

    Then one cannot become undirected because there really can’t be any real external authorities.

    Sorry for my broken English.

     

    August 30, 2018 at 8:31 pm #52906
    c_howdy
    Participant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqBIgCb7dv0

    …I am not very interesting in bone charging seems like a waste of time as it doesn’t last…

    Neidan without strongman training can be devastating because one becomes too sensitive, is too lazy or something else. One could think for example Antonin Artaud or William S. Burroughs although both did that with the hard drugs.

    Sorry for my broken English.

    HOWDY

    -https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_and_soft_drugs-

    Hard drugs are drugs that lead to physical addiction. Many countries do not allow people to make, sell or use some of them, other than for medical purposes. Examples of hard drugs are opiates (heroin, hydrocodone (Vicodin), oxycodone (Oxycontin, Percocet), morphine), benzodiazepines (diazepam (Valium), alprazolam (Xanax), flunitrazepam (Rufilin), clonazepam (Klonopin), lorazepam (Ativan)), methamphetamine (meth), cocaine, alcohol, GHB, and nicotine. If it is legal to sell them, like with alcohol or nicotine, there are often taxes that need to be paid for them.

    -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonin_Artaud#Medical_hiatus-

    The return from Ireland brought about the beginning of the final phase of Artaud’s life, which was spent in different asylums. When France was occupied by the Nazis, friends of Artaud had him transferred to the psychiatric hospital in Rodez, well inside Vichy territory, where he was put under the charge of Dr. Gaston Ferdière. Ferdière began administering electroshock treatments to eliminate Artaud’s symptoms, which included various delusions and odd physical tics. The doctor believed that Artaud’s habits of crafting magic spells, creating astrology charts, and drawing disturbing images were symptoms of mental illness.

    September 8, 2018 at 11:19 am #52964
    c_howdy
    Participant

    …to make forward progress…

    September 8, 2018 at 11:55 am #52965
    rideforever
    Participant

    Hey man, you still here !!!

    Well I am just not feeling Fusion, maybe it’s the overly long books.   The CD is much better.   But recently I have been doing a lot of Wild Goose Dayan, and I am learning Liuhebafa, I prefer these long forms with some tradition.   All the mega energy Healing Tao stuff I find confusing and a bit boring really, well not exactly boring, but I prefer some culture and tradition.

    September 10, 2018 at 6:25 pm #52982
    c_howdy
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    This physical stability as a meditative practice is referred to by the Sanskrit name kaya sthairyam (body stillness). In kaya sthairyam meditation, the yogi concentrates on sthairyam of the body, which stills the mind. The sixth limb of yoga, dharana (concentration), requires the practice and mastering of kaya sthairyam before deep meditation can be effective.

    -https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/9984/sthairyam-

    September 11, 2018 at 2:45 pm #52993
    frechtling
    Participant

    Ride-

    A few years back I got Marie’s CD and formulated my own MW practice based on the descriptions on the website.  I had also read Chia’s Fusion 1 book, which has a lot of additional stuff which isn’t fusion (MW is clear about that).  The actual practice is as basic as the CD (without her warmup chanting), but MW adds a lot of preparation which prepares you for the fusion practice.  He also does the positive cycle prior to the negative cycle.  My overall practice time ends up at about 45 min, with about a half hour of that being warm up.  So to whittle it down you can just do the meditation, depending on how much preparation you want to do.  The prep is basically all the QF 1 stuff (warmup, IS, 5A) plus the “spiraling qi in the love cycle” or whatever it’s called from DHQ, which he teaches in the Fusion 1 course.  I am still planning to get the full Fusion 1 CD course from MW to deepen my practice, as I have not been meditating much in a long time and I feel it will motivate me much more.  I would recommend trying it out and it may help you out.

    -F

     

     

    September 11, 2018 at 2:51 pm #52994
    rideforever
    Participant

    Thank you that is helpful.

    October 18, 2018 at 11:56 am #53486
    Jox
    Participant

    I mix chi with the hands and works in a simple way …

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