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August 13, 2005 at 12:49 am #7342MoonglowParticipant
Michael, could you answer me a question please. How does one discern the messages one receives, the coincidneces, guidance, etc. How does one truly discern the bearer of those. There are guides, there are energy workers and healers, there are so many. I tend to go round and round on my belief system on what exactly is happening. I believe there are those that work positively for the energy shift that happens. And there are times I feel those and of course times that I do not. How much of what we experience is truly universal coinicidence and how much of it, if any is healer predisposed or assisted. I know one can take this globally, universal actually, but I have heard people’s discussions in my “head”, some anyways, I have seen or been there at these discussions sometimes but cannot always remember them. Maybe I am crazy, but maybe not. What can I do to remember more. I was told a few years ago from a dear Chinese friend (I do have some of those), he told me that I did not drink from the forgetting river. I guess maybe I didn’t?? It is sometimes very irritating to only remember bits and pieces. Can one get to the place where one can remember it all. It is like I have had amnesia and it is required to put the pieces together without looking.
I have this odd thinking and it may be way out there with no substance but I think that in my last life, or one of htem shortly before that one, I was deceived by an energy worker and I did not end up where I was supposed to end up in the practise I was doing. And I think this happened because I think I was not doing so many good things maybe at one time or another, or maybe they thought I wasn’t. Which isn’t all so much meaning here now, but at the same time can explain some of what I deal with daily now. What is the best practise to alleviate, to heal past. And don’t say, just let it go. I am also aware that my mind may create illusion to hide source. Do you have any suggestions other than psychiatric tx. (ha, ha)August 13, 2005 at 3:32 pm #7343Michael WinnKeymasterRainbowbear,
These are big questions that I have many ideas and experience with – the basis of my answers, but nonetheless it is difficult to answer for someone else. I would suggest looking at a few principles.1. Everyone has amnesia. It is not punishment for being bad – I would especially work on releasing that negative thought form, which is merely a self-judgment or self-assumed guilt given the clothing of Some Higher Force.
If some teacher tells you have incarnatted because you are bad,ask them how they hnow. Or how their teacher knows. Not what, but HOW they know.Amnesia is necessary for incarnation to work. The function of incarnation is to get a slowed down (in vibration) aspect of the Whole/collective to complete some work that the collective cannot do from its level of vast consciousness. Human incarnation is detail work – it needs eyes, ears, and open mind/heart to find something that is lost here by the collective. It wants it back – so it takes on tiny human forms and enters into this dimension.
Incarnation is Nature’s alchemical process – separate into three’s, cook, and recombine in a more pure form. The three iare body, mind, and spirit. So everyone is practicing alchemy and transmutng these three, only a few of us do it consciously. These three at the human level parallel a larger multi- dimensional alchemy that is happening. You could call them by any name you wanted – physical, astral, causal (all a bit linear for my taste) or primodial, early, and later heavens. or Plug in any system, you will find a trinity at its source (Father Son Holy Ghost).
There is a lot of bleeding going on between those dimensions right now due to some major vibrational shifts and speeding up of the larger process. so it is getting easier to “over hear” things happening right here but in parallel dimensions.
The only “cure” for the confusion being created is to get more grounded/centered. That is another way of saying that you have developed both a physical and spiritual center of gravity. I have worked on plenty of psychics, and their main problem is they have no boundary. They cannot stop the stream of info, they ultimately don’t know what is coming from within or from without. It eventually makes most of them sick or unbalanced spiritually. They put of their center in the “voices” coming from without than they do on the voices coming from within (five shen or Original Spirit). so their chi disperses. This is especially a problem for channelers.
While on a higher level the individual and the collective have an identical higher center of gravity in a common source, practically speaking the individual needs to hold that center in the physical dimension – this is where the individual is doing its spiritual work. Earth is where the Great Transformation is happening, so you have to abide by the rules of this plane, however temporary (or empty) you believe them to be ultimately. This is where the action is – there is NO action happening in the primordial/causal planes. its too big, too omniscient there. any problem there is also omniscient. Earth is where the details get played out through individuated will.
Without boundary the human vessel for holding higher concciousness get confused and weak. Wendy has spoken of her difficulty in dissolving boundaries too soon and too much.
I suggest you try the following:
1. If you hear a voice, ask it immediately to identify where it is coming from – your human self (5 shen) or another level of the collective mind. If collective, what aspect?
2. If the voices are chaotic and feel unsuportive of your process, ask them to stop or leave. If unable to stop them, you have either a compulsive issue with your spleen/yi spirit or a “hole” in your field that is too open and not filtering out junk.
3. Consider some of the alchemical practices I have found useful. the healing sounds can be used to open up and release unclear voices. The orbit creates a balanced yin-yang field in your meridians. Fusion has many methods for filtering out disturbances – spinning belt channels around the body, a protective egg that breathes and allows in only what is useful, spinning baguas for fusing to center all the disconencted aspects of consciousness.
hope this helps.
peace,
michaelAugust 13, 2005 at 7:55 pm #7345wendyParticipantCouldn’t catch sleep (6hours difference with US time) I was having these thoughts and wanted to post them first before trying again.
Experiencing ‘voices’, channeling entities of all sorts, is indeed a very tricky business, I know because I was good at it at some point.
In my case
Lacking earth, lacking yang and lacking self confidence were three major reasons to become open to it.A very tricky point is that it seemingly ‘helps’ to raise your ‘confidence’, you become ‘someone’, you have things to share, stories to tell, you heal, forsee, so you seem to become important for the outside world.
It might you feel the need to give yourself a name, a title, a new look, whatever you feel that gives you ‘identity’ related to your ‘voices’! Look on the internet, look for channelers and you will see my point.
Unfortunately it is just the opposite, you become a slave, a worker for the ‘energies’, like some like to call themselves ‘light workers’ or whatever… you give yourself out of control.
It is a real temptation as you feel your so called importance…Not having enough identity of your own creates space for ‘others’ to come in and give you identity. That is why in my experiences silent meditation without proper identity is a pathway for the astral to jump in and create incredible mess. If you don’t look behind this play you are a victim and you are used for purposes very different than your ego is telling you, feeling so important and even powerfull. It is a trap and the astral is very eager to use the openess of so many lost people looking for attention, appreciation and identity.
Society is full with lonely people, looking for that, so as well our society is a giant play ground for the astral, and oh man they have fun, and their play grounds are becoming wider and wilder because of our need and ignorance!!I am glad to help anyone in this situation, because I had my lessons and I am very eager to bust those ghosts (just kidding,they have their good and bad purposes as well but humans need to become AWARE and need to take their bodies, minds and souls back were it belongs)
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