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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Many thanks, Michael, will follow up on these suggestions. Right now the migraines are so severe that my only resort is the anti-migraine drug. Unfortunately as with all such drugs, it can only suppress and push the pain deeper into the system, which relieves it temporarily but then the body tries to express it again (hence rebound…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Many thanks, Michael, will follow up on these suggestions. Right now the migraines are so severe that my only resort is the anti-migraine drug. Unfortunately as with all such drugs, it can only suppress and push the pain deeper into the system, which relieves it temporarily but then the body tries to express it again (hence rebound…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Thanks for the encouragement, Max. Even though today was a very challenging day, I remembered to do a few rounds of the breathing. Sometimes I was able to hold the breath 12 seconds. It varies so that I’m not seeing linear progress yet, but I’m used to progress not being linear :).
It seems like the right thing to do, and I’ll keep at it,…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Thanks for the encouragement, Max. Even though today was a very challenging day, I remembered to do a few rounds of the breathing. Sometimes I was able to hold the breath 12 seconds. It varies so that I’m not seeing linear progress yet, but I’m used to progress not being linear :).
It seems like the right thing to do, and I’ll keep at it,…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the suggestions. The chronic fatigue is so profound that even just moving my arms in wave pattern over my body for more than a few seconds would be too exhausting .. I start out painfully exhausted, and all movement is just more of a strain. Only very rarely do I experience movement as effortless. So, can the ocean…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the suggestions. The chronic fatigue is so profound that even just moving my arms in wave pattern over my body for more than a few seconds would be too exhausting .. I start out painfully exhausted, and all movement is just more of a strain. Only very rarely do I experience movement as effortless. So, can the ocean…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Hehe, yeah, this has been a long thread, but I’m glad you jumped in, Wendy. good advice that bears repeating. have been dealing with the emotional issues head on, ongoing. also grief is a big issue, and i have been crying a lot lately. interesting how sometimes i can cry for a long time and feel congested and drained afterward, whereas other times…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Hehe, yeah, this has been a long thread, but I’m glad you jumped in, Wendy. good advice that bears repeating. have been dealing with the emotional issues head on, ongoing. also grief is a big issue, and i have been crying a lot lately. interesting how sometimes i can cry for a long time and feel congested and drained afterward, whereas other times…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Ok, have done one Buteyko session. First my “diagnostic” time was about 10 seconds. So I tried to do 12 seconds as my training time. That was very uncomfortable. Then I tried again, and then even 10 seconds was too uncomfortable. It seems that I’m tiring myself when I hit that sudden discomfort, so that I can’t keep a consistent training…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Ok, have done one Buteyko session. First my “diagnostic” time was about 10 seconds. So I tried to do 12 seconds as my training time. That was very uncomfortable. Then I tried again, and then even 10 seconds was too uncomfortable. It seems that I’m tiring myself when I hit that sudden discomfort, so that I can’t keep a consistent training…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Thanks Sean.. I printed out your message that you linked to, and will read through it lying down :-). I also looked at the “Be Breathed” site, and it reminded me that I already have a program that I got from breathing.com but at the time it seemed like too much effort to learn it. Do you or anyone else have an opinion on the quality/usefulness…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Thanks Sean.. I printed out your message that you linked to, and will read through it lying down :-). I also looked at the “Be Breathed” site, and it reminded me that I already have a program that I got from breathing.com but at the time it seemed like too much effort to learn it. Do you or anyone else have an opinion on the quality/usefulness…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Ok, just for some feedback.. my body said no to any breath holding. I could only do about 10 seconds before it got extremely uncomfortable, so I stopped there and went back to simple dantien meditation. Even holding breath for a few seconds in between breaths, as in alternate nostril breathing, feels somewhat of a strain.
I do feel the urge to…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Ok, just for some feedback.. my body said no to any breath holding. I could only do about 10 seconds before it got extremely uncomfortable, so I stopped there and went back to simple dantien meditation. Even holding breath for a few seconds in between breaths, as in alternate nostril breathing, feels somewhat of a strain.
I do feel the urge to…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Max,
Very interesting. Too tired right now to look into this, but I will. Any practice that includes holding the breath at all seems too tiring for me, but maybe I’ve overlooked something.
And I wonder how this reconciles with the advice to just do natural breathing at this level.
thanks,
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Max,
Very interesting. Too tired right now to look into this, but I will. Any practice that includes holding the breath at all seems too tiring for me, but maybe I’ve overlooked something.
And I wonder how this reconciles with the advice to just do natural breathing at this level.
thanks,
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
My view is that the thought that “it is not good enough” comes from fear, and that doing the best one can is always good enough. Of course “the best one can” is never a static thing, so there is always growth.
Learning from a teacher may be preferable when it is practical. But I don’t think the universe denies us what we need if we don’t have…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
My view is that the thought that “it is not good enough” comes from fear, and that doing the best one can is always good enough. Of course “the best one can” is never a static thing, so there is always growth.
Learning from a teacher may be preferable when it is practical. But I don’t think the universe denies us what we need if we don’t have…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Hi Rainbowbear,
Karen happens to be my real name; easier to use than to think up anything else 🙂
I can’t do standing exercises, but some of the visualizations you describe sound great and I will try. (I can stand, but it’s way too tiring for more than a minute, so it seems not a good idea to force it).
I can sit with feet on the floor…[Read more]
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karen replied to the topic Where to begin? in the forum General 19 years, 2 months ago
Hi Rainbowbear,
Karen happens to be my real name; easier to use than to think up anything else 🙂
I can’t do standing exercises, but some of the visualizations you describe sound great and I will try. (I can stand, but it’s way too tiring for more than a minute, so it seems not a good idea to force it).
I can sit with feet on the floor…[Read more]
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