Nnonnth

>>Right now, people are still trying to achieve harmony through external means.<<

You see this is really the problem we are having with this conversation, I just don't agree with what you say at all about 'people' this sweeping generalization.

And I totally disagree with the idea of 'no explanations through categorization'. Speech as well as…[Read more]

… especially on fear and love. You might like Austin Osman Spare, who I mentioned a long time ago on here. A British magician and fan of taoism, his best book was ‘The Book of Pleasure’ which is subtitled ‘Self-Love’ and which claims self-love is the only law. Alot of stuff I liked in there. Like Crowley (with whom he was acquainted, not happily…[Read more]

… this social context is very important but I feel that in a truly free society people can find themselves in a social context that is apart from the regular one and – sure it becomes a test of freedoms but ultimately – it does allow people who want to live any way to do so. The only important thing is that people realize it’s all just people…[Read more]

… ok but why do you think polyamory is dangerous with all the jing flying around where polygamy is making (possibly) a cooking pot of jing?

Yes I was poly in my twenties and I gathered experience that way. But even though I’m mono right now I still kind of think of myself as poly in spirit if I can put it that way. I’m not thinking about…[Read more]

… and I do think I just disagree here again. The reason we have this lingo of polyamory developing (around something that always existed whether defined or not) is for the purposes of communicating to other people. It’s not an ‘artifical structure’ it’s a name that allows you to say what you mean so that others will get it. ‘Penis’ or ‘early…[Read more]

Article for shrinks on polyamories and what to do if you ever come across one in practice:

http://www.polyamory.org/~joe/polypaper.htm#WhatIsKnown

Sample bit:

>>”In 1976, Knapp administered a battery of standardized psychological assessment measures to a sample of polyamorous couples (Peabody, 1982). No significant differences were found…[Read more]

>>Jason, (I’m laughing as I write this) as usual you seem to have misunderstood what I said.<>Poly this or poly that, it all a head trip and worth giving up<<

… lumping polyamory with the 'control-based systems' you are decrying, my point was polyamory is not such a system, not about handing one's heart over to preconceived social mechanisms,…[Read more]

>>I do not see often the men or the women accetping the partners of there partner.<>That is allot of other peoples jing to deal with when you can bearly deal with your own. Not to mention the denial(not just a river in egypt, hi ooh) most are in about the jealousy.<>Most have a # 1 this can change over time as a person can find a new person for…[Read more]

… people are making it up as they go along to find out what they personally need. j

… but why don’t you like polyamory I think it’s also a good option. I mean it’s working I see alot of people doing it. I think the goal of a one-to-one relationship is still there but people are much more open now in my experience. As in, people might say yes or they might say no, but there’s much less, ‘Well I wouldn’t dream of it it’s…[Read more]

I’ve always liked your style jernej – your substance… is constantly about pi+i to the minus 1th power degrees away from where I think it is! 🙂 j

… although I feel like you just came prematurely haha j.k. Yeah the moon is so glorious today, a silver ember of love, happy basking love j

>>So where did the other 60% of men end up doing?

Taken away the ones that went into spiritual practice, priesthood, kids, or animals, the others became warriors, explorers, jihadists (most of suicide bombers are single), and so on.<<

The ones who ended up gay! 🙂 Most efficient, takes two out of the loop at a time. Hence my first comment!…

… by modern standards of the word, but with the addition of a hereditary figurehead-of-state. The Prime Minister and not the Queen is in charge of the country.

My teacher of ancient Greek told me there hasn’t been any democracy since Athens though. In Athens they would elect people randomly by lots for public office. That would shake things…[Read more]

He’s put all sorts of extra words in there trying to make it mean something else it sounds like to me. Le Guin’s is my fave at the moment:

Stop being holy, forget being prudent
it’ll be a hundred times better for everyone
Stop being altruistic, forget being righteous,
people will remember what family feeling is

etc. Has more ring of truth…[Read more]

Give up sainthood, renounce wisdom, give up kindness, renounce morality. Everyone will be happier! Something like that j