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    singing ocean replied to the topic Interesting Quote/Article on original Taoist Alchemy in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    I am curious to know which version of the Dao De Jing, translation and verse you are using for your quote above?

    Is it the Guodian, Mawangdui or a later version?

    A note on the word “visualization”: I think this implies more of a mental/intellectual exercise. I prefer to use the word “Actualize”: Qi is real!

    I think at an early point in…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    and intelligent from you about your own practice. An actual explanation or answer would be nice instead of blanket statements about emptiness that you can’t back up with your or others own experiential commentary.

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    and intelligent from you about your own practice. An actual explanation or answer would be nice instead of blanket statements about emptiness that you can’t back up with your or others own experiential commentary.

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    and intelligent from you about your own practice. An actual explanation or answer would be nice instead of blanket statements about emptiness that you can’t back up with your or others own experiential commentary.

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    >”Some questions shouldn’t be asked. Like “What is Tao?” or “What does an >Immortal feel?” or “Do you have an empty mind?” -Max

    I did not ask you any of these questions in my posts, are you referring to someone else?

    >My comment about Chinese:
    >”As for the chinese term of “heart” as opposed to “mind”, this doen’t >change the meaning of…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    >”Some questions shouldn’t be asked. Like “What is Tao?” or “What does an >Immortal feel?” or “Do you have an empty mind?” -Max

    I did not ask you any of these questions in my posts, are you referring to someone else?

    >My comment about Chinese:
    >”As for the chinese term of “heart” as opposed to “mind”, this doen’t >change the meaning of…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    >”Some questions shouldn’t be asked. Like “What is Tao?” or “What does an >Immortal feel?” or “Do you have an empty mind?” -Max

    I did not ask you any of these questions in my posts, are you referring to someone else?

    >My comment about Chinese:
    >”As for the chinese term of “heart” as opposed to “mind”, this doen’t >change the meaning of…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    Max,

    I am free to ask whatever questions I think are appropriate to this discussion. Isn’t it rather discriminatory to say “some questions should not be asked”, or “someone who speaks or reads chinese can not understand these terms”. Basically you are saying “this is right thought/action”, and “this is wrong thought/action”.

    Why not just…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    Max,

    I am free to ask whatever questions I think are appropriate to this discussion. Isn’t it rather discriminatory to say “some questions should not be asked”, or “someone who speaks or reads chinese can not understand these terms”. Basically you are saying “this is right thought/action”, and “this is wrong thought/action”.

    Why not just…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    Max,

    I am free to ask whatever questions I think are appropriate to this discussion. Isn’t it rather discriminatory to say “some questions should not be asked”, or “someone who speaks or reads chinese can not understand these terms”. Basically you are saying “this is right thought/action”, and “this is wrong thought/action”.

    Why not just…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic interesting article by Gunther Weil in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    I have two questions for Cessation:

    1. Why is it that the sutra you have quoted above contains the “Four establishments of mindfulness” sutra, but seems to have added a whole ton of benefits that were not in the earlier original (walking through walls etc.); was this because Buddha gave this talk later in life after he had practiced more? Or…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic interesting article by Gunther Weil in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    I have two questions for Cessation:

    1. Why is it that the sutra you have quoted above contains the “Four establishments of mindfulness” sutra, but seems to have added a whole ton of benefits that were not in the earlier original (walking through walls etc.); was this because Buddha gave this talk later in life after he had practiced more? Or…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic interesting article by Gunther Weil in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    I have two questions for Cessation:

    1. Why is it that the sutra you have quoted above contains the “Four establishments of mindfulness” sutra, but seems to have added a whole ton of benefits that were not in the earlier original (walking through walls etc.); was this because Buddha gave this talk later in life after he had practiced more? Or…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    Oh, I see, you got this text from Livia Kohn’s book “The Taoist Experience”.

    You might also want to check out Eva Wong’s “Cultivating Stillness”, in that it contains diagrams and chinese text.

    It seems that there is some understanding of the original terms lost in the translations, as english terms are somewhat loaded.

    It is true, that…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    Oh, I see, you got this text from Livia Kohn’s book “The Taoist Experience”.

    You might also want to check out Eva Wong’s “Cultivating Stillness”, in that it contains diagrams and chinese text.

    It seems that there is some understanding of the original terms lost in the translations, as english terms are somewhat loaded.

    It is true, that…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    Oh, I see, you got this text from Livia Kohn’s book “The Taoist Experience”.

    You might also want to check out Eva Wong’s “Cultivating Stillness”, in that it contains diagrams and chinese text.

    It seems that there is some understanding of the original terms lost in the translations, as english terms are somewhat loaded.

    It is true, that…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    “If a person speaks and writes Chinese and looks at those texts, they would be unable to read them.” -Max

    I think you are wrong in this case, In fact, I can read the characters that accompany the texts. The difficulty lies in understanding the terms themselves, as harold roth (a scholar) explains in my post above when describing the term…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    “If a person speaks and writes Chinese and looks at those texts, they would be unable to read them.” -Max

    I think you are wrong in this case, In fact, I can read the characters that accompany the texts. The difficulty lies in understanding the terms themselves, as harold roth (a scholar) explains in my post above when describing the term…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    “If a person speaks and writes Chinese and looks at those texts, they would be unable to read them.” -Max

    I think you are wrong in this case, In fact, I can read the characters that accompany the texts. The difficulty lies in understanding the terms themselves, as harold roth (a scholar) explains in my post above when describing the term…[Read more]

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    singing ocean replied to the topic More MIND and EMPTINESS!!! in the forum General 20 years, 11 months ago

    If you take an extreme position on an issue, don’t you expect there to be a response?

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