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January 22, 2013 at 3:51 am #40098NickParticipant
Hi All,
Newby here, would like some advice from master please about how to conserve chi.
After years of meditation, yoga and running orbits, still experiencing wet dreams whilst concentrating on Dan tien during the day; following my Taiji teacher’s advice to preserve my energy that is leaking from my hands mainly.
In books, most Daoist masters from oriental lineage view wet dreams as something to eradicate.Thanks
January 23, 2013 at 9:09 pm #40099StevenModeratorThere are no masters here,
only people sharing experiences.Dreams typically allow you to explore and
express that which is not expressed in waking life.Wet dreams are a combination of the simple biological
desire to release aging prostate fluid, so the body
can fill the area with fresh fluid . . . combined
with sexual imagery caused (typically) by unfulfilled
sexual desire in waking life–given to you to help
stimulate the physical release.It is likely that you are trying to suppress your
sexual desire, rather than accept it and come into
harmony with it.To stop the wet dreams, find a partner to
have sex with (or simply masturbate by yourself)
bringing yourself to orgasm. Fulfill the sexual desire
and biological desire in waking life, and your body/psyche
won’t feel the need to do it when you sleep.The question of whether or not you want to explore
separating orgasm from ejaculation, and having
ejaculation-free orgasms, is another question altogether.
If this is something you are interested in,
the Healing Love course (part of the Healing Tao
coursework) presents one such method. Some
people use the material from that course to
stop qi loss from ejaculation.In different coursework–Lesser Kan and Li (which
has a few prerequisites)– you can deeper explore
unfulfilled sexual desire and help gain
completion on that end through the practices
and meditations from that coursework.If you choose to explore a few of these choices,
it is important that you only explore them after
doing the prerequisite trainings . . . which in
this coursework is Qigong Fundamentals
(for Lesser Kan&Li, you also need the Fusion 1-3
series). Jumping ahead without the prerequisite
training will yield one of two results:
1. Training doesn’t work
2. Serious negative health consequences result
from the training.
Thus, make sure to do the prerequisites, starting
with Qigong Fundamentals.For optimal results, follow M. Winn’s recommended
sequence listed on the main page.S
January 24, 2013 at 1:54 pm #40101NickParticipantThanks for the advice.
I get wet dreams randomly, even after a full evening of orgasmic pleasure with a new partner…January 24, 2013 at 5:26 pm #40103StevenModeratorIf you are having wet dreams, but it is not due to
sexual abstinence or intentionally trying to avoid
ejaculation in your waking life, then this speaks
to a different issue I feel.My feeling would either be unresolved
psycho-sexual issues (Lesser Kan & Li course
is one way to explore this), or possibly
simply liver hyperactivity.In the latter case, you could give
“Bupleurum and Dragon Bone” herbal formulation
(from Dragon Herbs, http://www.dragonherbs.com) a try.
I know some that have told me that that has
helped them with such issues. In any case,
you could look into it.S
January 26, 2013 at 4:27 am #40105NickParticipantHi Steve, I work as a western pharmacist and an acupuncturist but have no knowledge of chinese pharmacopoeia. Is there literature published on clinical trials available on the net for “bupleurum and dragon bone” please as I cannot find it?
January 26, 2013 at 10:06 am #40107StevenModeratorI don’t know anything about clinical trials,
but it is considered a “classical” Chinese
herbal formulation, one that has been
around for a while historically in China
and Japan.Note: I am not an herbalist.
However, “Bupleurum and Dragon Bone”
is a formulation that I take myself.
So consequently I can vouch for the
fact that it is a mild formulation.
It is something one could reasonably
try “over the counter”, which is
what I did when I started taking it
a few years ago.I personally have never had a problem
with wet dreams, and don’t take it for
that reason, but others who have had
problems with wet dreams have told me
anecdotal info about it helping them
with this. So you could try it and
see if it helps. At the very least,
I wouldn’t hurt to look into.
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From the Dragon Herbs catalog:
“Bupleurum and Dragon Bone Combination is
one of the primary anti-stress formulations
used in Chinese herbalism. It is a superb
mood stabilizer. It is primarily listed as
a Shen stabilizer and as a Liver tonic. It
is famous for its ability to help stabilize
addictive/compulsive behavior and is widely
used in the withdrawal from the addiction to
smoking, drinking, and to a large variety of
addictive drugs by both lessening the cravings
for the drug and by reducing the common
withdrawal symptoms. As an anti-compulsive
agent, this formulation can be used to control
one’s weight by helping to regulate the
appetite. It is said to improve will power,
strengthen the mind, reduce anxiety, frustration,
and anger. It is widely used in Japan for
chronic heart palpitations. It has a long
tradition as a tonic which aids meditation.
The classic formula contains Rhubarb, which is
laxative. In this version, Rhubarb has been
replaced by another Shen stabiizing herb,
Uncaria, eliminating the laxative effect and
strengthening the calming effect.Traditional functions: Regulating the Liver,
calming the nerves, stabilizing Shen, supporting
healthy energy, and eliminating wind and evil.Who can use this formula: Strong people who
are feeling the effects of excessive stress,
nervousness, and tension. It is known
as the “lawyer’s formula” in Japan.Ingredients: Bupleurum, Uncaria, Dragon Bone,
Scute, Oyster Shell, Cinnamon Twig, Poria,
Pinellia Prepared, Fresh Ginger, Codonopsis,
Red Jujube Date
————————January 26, 2013 at 12:12 pm #40109NickParticipantThanks Steve
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