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Internal Chi Breathing

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  • This topic has 14 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 11 years, 7 months ago by frechtling.
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  • September 3, 2013 at 3:16 pm #41132
    pkyoungson
    Participant

    In his Deep Healing Chi Kung DVD Michael Winn mentions “internal chi breathing”. How is it done?

    September 3, 2013 at 4:57 pm #41133
    Steven
    Moderator

    Internal Qi Breathing is an umbrella term given to
    any of the 3 breathing techniques: natural, reverse,
    counterforce breathing WHEN you do internal qi energetics
    along with the actual physical breathing.

    Typically, the one given importance with internal qi
    energetics is COUNTERFORCE breathing, so the reference
    given here is simply another way of saying COUNTERFORCE breathing.

    To do counterforce breathing:
    Actualize a golden qi ball in your lower dantian
    Inhale, abdomen expands, but qi ball CONTRACTS
    Exhale, abdomen contracts, but qi ball EXPANDS

    The reference in Deep Healing Qigong has to do with the
    “Fuse the Five Vapors” segment. So during that segment,
    you do counterforce breathing as described above.
    The movement of the hands is in the same direction as the qi ball.

    A detailed discussion of all three breathing techniques
    is covered on the QF3 AUDIO set (not the DVD) if you would
    like to investigate these topics in more depth.

    Qi,
    Steven

    September 8, 2013 at 3:46 pm #41135
    pkyoungson
    Participant

    Thanks Steven. nt

    October 31, 2013 at 1:46 pm #41137
    frechtling
    Participant

    I have a question about a discrepancy with this movement. In the video he keeps the palms facing each other, but the handout says to turn the palms outward (which is just like in the QF4 DVD). Does it really matter?

    By the way, I just started learning DHQ and am loving it so far! I can already see how this can be a very deep form depending on how many movements and how much color, intention, etc you add to it.

    October 31, 2013 at 1:46 pm #41139
    frechtling
    Participant

    I have a question about a discrepancy with this movement. In the video he keeps the palms facing each other, but the handout says to turn the palms outward (which is just like in the QF4 DVD). Does it really matter?

    By the way, I just started learning DHQ and am loving it so far! I can already see how this can be a very deep form depending on how many movements and how much color, intention, etc you add to it.

    October 31, 2013 at 1:46 pm #41141
    frechtling
    Participant

    I have a question about a discrepancy with this movement. In the video he keeps the palms facing each other, but the handout says to turn the palms outward (which is just like in the QF4 DVD). Does it really matter?

    By the way, I just started learning DHQ and am loving it so far! I can already see how this can be a very deep form depending on how many movements and how much color, intention, etc you add to it.

    October 31, 2013 at 1:46 pm #41143
    frechtling
    Participant

    I have a question about a discrepancy with this movement. In the video he keeps the palms facing each other, but the handout says to turn the palms outward (which is just like in the QF4 DVD). Does it really matter?

    By the way, I just started learning DHQ and am loving it so far! I can already see how this can be a very deep form depending on how many movements and how much color, intention, etc you add to it.

    November 1, 2013 at 8:49 pm #41145
    Steven
    Moderator

    I have come to my own strong opinions from years of doing the practice, but ultimately it is just a variation and whatever feels better to you personally is fine. That’s always the ultimate deciding factor. You have to listen to your own inner wisdom.

    For me, I personally do not turn the hands around in either DHQ or in the counterforce qigong from QF4. I realize he does this in the QF4 video, but I don’t do this myself. For me, turning the hands around has more of a “separation” feel to it, which I feel is better served in the Belt Channel Qigong (Fusion 2 and also DHQ at a different point). However, when doing the Counterforce Qigong–in either DHQ (Fuse the Five Vapors) or QF4–a separation energy is not really the focus in my view. In particular, I feel that I can maintain more integrity with the qi ball during its expansion and contraction by keeping the hands facing palm to palm. By keeping the hands facing each other, it allows the qi ball to be more concentrated and substantial I feel, and allows the qi ball to direct the movement of the hands, rather than the other way around. Via this approach, I feel I can get in more “deeply”.

    Glad to hear that you are learning DHQ. It only gets deeper and stronger over time. There are a lot of hidden subtleties in the form, happy little “accidents”, and other inner secrets that reveal themselves to you through enough time and devotion to practice. The form is quite ingenious.

    Qi,
    Steven

    November 1, 2013 at 8:49 pm #41147
    Steven
    Moderator

    I have come to my own strong opinions from years of doing the practice, but ultimately it is just a variation and whatever feels better to you personally is fine. That’s always the ultimate deciding factor. You have to listen to your own inner wisdom.

    For me, I personally do not turn the hands around in either DHQ or in the counterforce qigong from QF4. I realize he does this in the QF4 video, but I don’t do this myself. For me, turning the hands around has more of a “separation” feel to it, which I feel is better served in the Belt Channel Qigong (Fusion 2 and also DHQ at a different point). However, when doing the Counterforce Qigong–in either DHQ (Fuse the Five Vapors) or QF4–a separation energy is not really the focus in my view. In particular, I feel that I can maintain more integrity with the qi ball during its expansion and contraction by keeping the hands facing palm to palm. By keeping the hands facing each other, it allows the qi ball to be more concentrated and substantial I feel, and allows the qi ball to direct the movement of the hands, rather than the other way around. Via this approach, I feel I can get in more “deeply”.

    Glad to hear that you are learning DHQ. It only gets deeper and stronger over time. There are a lot of hidden subtleties in the form, happy little “accidents”, and other inner secrets that reveal themselves to you through enough time and devotion to practice. The form is quite ingenious.

    Qi,
    Steven

    November 1, 2013 at 8:49 pm #41149
    Steven
    Moderator

    I have come to my own strong opinions from years of doing the practice, but ultimately it is just a variation and whatever feels better to you personally is fine. That’s always the ultimate deciding factor. You have to listen to your own inner wisdom.

    For me, I personally do not turn the hands around in either DHQ or in the counterforce qigong from QF4. I realize he does this in the QF4 video, but I don’t do this myself. For me, turning the hands around has more of a “separation” feel to it, which I feel is better served in the Belt Channel Qigong (Fusion 2 and also DHQ at a different point). However, when doing the Counterforce Qigong–in either DHQ (Fuse the Five Vapors) or QF4–a separation energy is not really the focus in my view. In particular, I feel that I can maintain more integrity with the qi ball during its expansion and contraction by keeping the hands facing palm to palm. By keeping the hands facing each other, it allows the qi ball to be more concentrated and substantial I feel, and allows the qi ball to direct the movement of the hands, rather than the other way around. Via this approach, I feel I can get in more “deeply”.

    Glad to hear that you are learning DHQ. It only gets deeper and stronger over time. There are a lot of hidden subtleties in the form, happy little “accidents”, and other inner secrets that reveal themselves to you through enough time and devotion to practice. The form is quite ingenious.

    Qi,
    Steven

    November 1, 2013 at 8:49 pm #41151
    Steven
    Moderator

    I have come to my own strong opinions from years of doing the practice, but ultimately it is just a variation and whatever feels better to you personally is fine. That’s always the ultimate deciding factor. You have to listen to your own inner wisdom.

    For me, I personally do not turn the hands around in either DHQ or in the counterforce qigong from QF4. I realize he does this in the QF4 video, but I don’t do this myself. For me, turning the hands around has more of a “separation” feel to it, which I feel is better served in the Belt Channel Qigong (Fusion 2 and also DHQ at a different point). However, when doing the Counterforce Qigong–in either DHQ (Fuse the Five Vapors) or QF4–a separation energy is not really the focus in my view. In particular, I feel that I can maintain more integrity with the qi ball during its expansion and contraction by keeping the hands facing palm to palm. By keeping the hands facing each other, it allows the qi ball to be more concentrated and substantial I feel, and allows the qi ball to direct the movement of the hands, rather than the other way around. Via this approach, I feel I can get in more “deeply”.

    Glad to hear that you are learning DHQ. It only gets deeper and stronger over time. There are a lot of hidden subtleties in the form, happy little “accidents”, and other inner secrets that reveal themselves to you through enough time and devotion to practice. The form is quite ingenious.

    Qi,
    Steven

    November 4, 2013 at 8:51 am #41153
    frechtling
    Participant

    Thanks Steven, that makes a lot of sense. I’m sure I’ll have many more questions as I get into it. I’ve learned it in pieces so far, and have yet to do the whole form together. Exciting times!

    November 4, 2013 at 8:51 am #41155
    frechtling
    Participant

    Thanks Steven, that makes a lot of sense. I’m sure I’ll have many more questions as I get into it. I’ve learned it in pieces so far, and have yet to do the whole form together. Exciting times!

    November 4, 2013 at 8:51 am #41157
    frechtling
    Participant

    Thanks Steven, that makes a lot of sense. I’m sure I’ll have many more questions as I get into it. I’ve learned it in pieces so far, and have yet to do the whole form together. Exciting times!

    November 4, 2013 at 8:51 am #41159
    frechtling
    Participant

    Thanks Steven, that makes a lot of sense. I’m sure I’ll have many more questions as I get into it. I’ve learned it in pieces so far, and have yet to do the whole form together. Exciting times!

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