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Tai Chi more popular that Chi Kung

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  • March 13, 2014 at 4:03 pm #42008
    pkyoungson
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    It seems to me, from references in literature and the plethora of Tai Chi classes, that Tai Chi is better known and more popular than Chi Kung. Chi Kung, I understand is the Grandmother of Tai Chi, with Tai Chi being a type of Chi Kung. In fact, I have been told that Yoga and Tai Chi are both under the “umbrella” of Chi Kung. Does anyone know why or have any theories about Chi Kung apparently being less known and less popular?

    March 17, 2014 at 1:17 pm #42009
    Steven
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    I think it is because Tai Chi doubles as a martial art; it capitalized off of the notoriety of Kung Fu in popular culture as being the “internal cousin” that is also good for your health. Even to this day, you see movies like “Man of Tai Chi”, “Tai Chi Hero”, etc.

    Also, Tai Chi looks more “appealing” as a performance art. It has more of a tendency to gather crowds of people “to see what the person is doing”, and creates interest by people to “want to learn that”. Qigong (i.e. physical movement qigong), on the other hand, doesn’t have as much visual allure.

    Qi,
    Steven

    March 17, 2014 at 11:11 pm #42011
    c_howdy
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    Maybe one should consider how T’ai Chi Ch’uan has been traditionally meant to be learned.

    So one starts with very simple movement practices for the first years.

    One also starts static standing practices.

    Then one should start to learn slowly longer solo form.

    Then many years later some type of partnered form.

    Then T’ai Chi Ch’uan weapons etc.

    HOWDY

    March 18, 2014 at 7:37 am #42013
    c_howdy
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    Looking at so many seemingly different yet internally sound approaches to the martial arts drove me to realize that there must be be underlying factors that make all martial arts function. In short, every style, though different, must work from a similar set of principles. That single realization fully and irrevocably altered my approach to the martial arts-I stopped looking at martial arts in terms of techniques and styles, and started instead to examine the factors common to all styles.
    -STEVEN J. PEARLMAN, The Book of Martial Power

    Interactive Metronome (IM) is believed to improve the resolution and efficiency of an individual’s internal brain clock(s) and temporal processing. In turn, it is hypothesized that this results in more efficient brain connectivity, communication, and synchronization via increased integrity of the brains white matter tract communication system, producing more efficient communication between critical brain networks. In particular, research and theory suggests that IM training increases the efficacy of the parietal-frontal brain network, the brain network most associated with general intellectual functioning, working memory, controlled attention and executive functions.
    -https://www.interactivemetronome.com/

    The mind is a well-built computer and it has various services. Auditors, backing off
    from Latin and complexity, call the source of one of these services, the file clerk. This is not a very dignified name and it is certainly anthropomorphic. There is no small man or woman in there with a green eye-shade. But the action which takes place is a close approximation to what would happen if such an entity did dwell within the mind. The file clerk is the bank monitor. “He” monitors for both the reactive engram bank and the standard banks. When he is asked for a datum by the auditor or “I,” he will hand out a datum to the auditor via “I.” He is a trifle moronic when he handles the reactive engram bank, a contagion from the reactive mind, and he will at times hand out puns and crazy dreams when he should be delivering serious data. The file clerk, if the auditor asks the pre-clear for the last time he saw a movie, will
    hand out the movie, the date it was seen, the age and physical being of the person, all perceptics, the plot of the movie, the weather — in short, he hands out everything that was present and connected with the movie. In ordinary living the file clerk feeds memory to “I” at a rapid rate. A good memory gets its data in split seconds. If the file clerk has to shove the memory around various reactive occlusions, it may take minutes or days for the data to arrive.
    -L. RON HUBBARD, Dianetics-The Modern Science of Mental Health

    Sorry my broken English.

    Although there might be large amount of Taiji classes available, also in Finland, somebody might ask if these are good for any particular practical purpose.

    So to make one’s Taiji effective martial art one would need to take that very long old road and practicing only softly is not good for keeping fit, in my opinion.

    But here I was mainly after mental prowess like Pearlman particularly in martial arts and Hubbard in more or less every conceivable situation one might meet.

    So again if M. Chia’s Tai Chi Chi Kung form (13 movement form?) itself might not be the most ideal one, the system otherwise is extremely rich and only perfecting certain aspects of mental timing is lacking for immediate purposes.

    In my opinion.

    HOWDY

    April 4, 2014 at 1:47 pm #42015
    frechtling
    Participant

    Besides all that Steven said, the concept of qi is sort of “weird” for people to grasp in western culture. People are quick to call people hippies and the like when they are talking about cultivating energy flow, etc. when they don’t understand it.

    I just started practicing tai chi and I feel that because it is a more “acceptable” practice, as is yoga, it may help to be a bridge between energy work and my friends, family, etc. (I’ve been mostly private about qigong practice, but know many people who pratice yoga including myself and my mom). The short form I practice is to me like a qigong form, and I feel like I am already incorporating elements I have learned from my qigong practice, having learned from a DVD with very little detail but just simple instructions. Most people I know may still think it is weird though…

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