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April 17, 2018 at 10:29 am #51936rideforeverParticipant
It has come to my attention that humans are exactly where they are meant to be. And if you wish to live a higher eternal life then you have no right to expect anyone to understand you, anyone to help you and so on. You are leaving from this crazy place.
It’s good to work hard and move quickly.
It’s good to not tell anybody and have a good disguise so people don’t attack you.
3 sets of accounting books, one for the tax man, one for the wife, and the real one.
Even the animals are “crazy” a.k.a “just being themselves” !!!
April 20, 2018 at 1:50 am #51948c_howdyParticipantYes, yes heavy duty clearing is needed!
HOWDY
Ps. Sorry for my broken English.
April 20, 2018 at 2:20 am #51949c_howdyParticipantL. RON HUBBARD Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behavior
“The sudden and abrut deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it’s only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line or simply quarantining them from the society.”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heavy-duty
-http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/tone-scale/sh4_1.htm-
April 20, 2018 at 6:35 am #51950rideforeverParticipantOne popular illusion is that you have to “clear” the darkness from yourself and then miraculously everything is going to be alright.
This is a very popular misunderstanding common to many traditions.
Sea Org has a nice idea but still relies on this wrong understanding.
That is why their technology is unsatisfying, first they had 8 levels, then 13, then 17 … they keep adding to it because it doesn’t actually work … because they have the wrong idea about how to bring Light into the being.But it doesn’t work like that as we should all know. You have a massage and it works, for a week and then your problems come back.
You do qigong for a month and it works, but a little later the problems come back.
Even if you do feel “clear” somehow it doesn’t give meaning anyway.
What is missing ?
Is the absence of darkness the same thing as the presence of Light ?
No.
Light has to be put in there, and you do that by creating Light not by removing darkness.
Step by step every aspect of your being needs to be converted into Light by creating Light. And then there is no need to work with darkness.
How to create Light?
At a basic level swap bad food for good, bad thinking (news) for good. Bad influences for good.
Then there is no need to fight with darkness because there is no space any more.
At a higher level (consciousness) you have to awaken, in other words trigger the entry of Light into you.
And everything has to have soul, and a struggle and yearning, and through that effort comes the Light. A price must be paid, but you can be happy to pay.
This is a very interesting article :
April 20, 2018 at 12:54 pm #51952c_howdyParticipantSorry but is this Buddhist type self-immolation/arsoning the solid planetary body correct path?
HOWDY
April 20, 2018 at 2:15 pm #51953rideforeverParticipantMost traditions want to “kill the ego”. It’s the same thing, self-immolation, just like the Christians wiping their backs bloody, or Buddhist sleeping in vertical wooden boxes. “Kill the ego, kill the ego”.
But then again perhaps it’s an instruction that corresponds to, and is correct for, a dumb ape. So, ok.
Mankind’s confusion wouldn’t be such a problem if they wren’t also arrogant, lazy, self-indulgent and twice as blind as their worst fears.
Traditions for instance hate anyone who has a new idea, they hate it. Everyone has to do exactly the same stupid non-working badly understood badly instructed bullshit that they last moron who was in charge did.
Anyway, the situation is not good for those who are interested in the path.
“God knows in how many way mankind is deluded.”
Probably a really primitive and unintelligent religion is what the ape man really needs, it would work better for him. But whatever school is made, it is just a mater of time before they burn it down and start eating babies again.
Aside from all that, it’s pretty miraculous that there is a path and that you can reach eternal life. One should be happy after all.
April 20, 2018 at 4:00 pm #51954c_howdyParticipant…you have no right to expect anyone to understand you, anyone to help you and so on…
This refers to the concept of SUPPRESSIVE PERSON?
HOWDY
-https://www.scientology.org/faq/scientology-attitudes-and-practices/what-is-a-suppressive-person.html-
A Suppressive Person (SP) is a person who seeks to suppress other people in their vicinity. A Suppressive Person will goof up or vilify any effort to help anybody and particularly knife with violence anything calculated to make human beings more powerful or more intelligent.
The Suppressive Person is also known as the Anti-Social Personality. Within this category one finds Napoleon, Hitler, the unrepentant killer and the drug lord. But if such are easily spotted, if only from the bodies they leave in their wake, Anti-Social Personalities also commonly exist in current life and often go undetected.
The basic reason the Suppressive Person behaves as he or she does lies in a hidden terror of others. To such a person every other being is an enemy, an enemy to be covertly or overtly destroyed. The fixation is that survival itself depends on “keeping others down” or “keeping people ignorant.” If anyone were to promise to make others stronger or brighter, the Suppressive Person would suffer the utmost agony.
Because of this, the Suppressive Person seeks to upset, continuously undermine, spread bad news about and denigrate betterment activities and groups. Thus the Anti-Social Personality is also against what Scientology is about—helping people become more able and improving conditions in society. As anyone can think of many examples of a Suppressive Person, this concept is not limited to Scientology. However, when such a person is connected to Scientology, for the good of the Church and the individuals in it, such a person is officially labeled a Suppressive Person so that others will know not to associate with them.
To be declared a Suppressive Person is extremely rare and results in expulsion from the Scientology religion. This occurs in instances of serious offenses against the Scientology faith and can also occur when an individual is found to be actively working to suppress the well-being of others. This can be done through criminal acts already recognized by society as unlawful or through the commitment of acts deemed Suppressive Acts in the Scientology Justice Codes—which includes the Suppressive Act of publicly renouncing the faith, an act which in Scientology, as well as almost every religion, is grounds for automatic expulsion.
When someone has been expelled from the religion, that person loses both his or her fellowship with the Church as well as with other Scientologists. The condition lasts until they have been restored to good standing. Once the person has been restored to good standing, the prohibition against fellowship with other Scientologists is lifted. Similar practices have been part of religious communities for thousands of years and have been recognized by courts of law as a fundamental right.
April 20, 2018 at 8:26 pm #51956c_howdyParticipanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRgHbWHnkHI
..one should be happy after all…
Being just subservient is not enough…
Sorry, but I just received ‘The Tao of Immortality: The Four Healing Arts and the Nine Levels of Alchemy’ , I paid and she fetched and we are happy.
HOWDY
April 21, 2018 at 5:59 am #51959rideforeverParticipantTao of Immortality ?
Question 1 : are you immortal Mr Chia ? And how can you demonstrate it to me ? Isn’t your hair going a little grey ?
Question 2 : have you successfully taken students to immortal state ?
Question 3 : can you explain all this to me in plain English without mumbo jumbo so I can understand what to do rather than …. have lots of pretty energy pictures in my head ?
Question 4 : in India and also in Christianity there is no connection between longevity and immortality. Christ says : “those who seek to save their life will lose it, those who lose their lives for my sakes will gain Life”, in India even poor and stupid people became enlightened by sitting still and contemplating “I Am”. Which leads to a number of questions. What is it Taoists are doing ?
And then one could also say … Laozi doesn’t refer to the body and it’s immortality, he refers more to insight into the nature of things and non-action. One must be willing for insight to grow, and create situations where insight will grow. Is this the same as Mantak Chia ? Alchemy is about magicking immortality … but can your identity be magicked without you ? Is there really a short road to discovering yourself ? Surely a long road is better ?
If it works it works …. but …. does it actually ?
What I want to see is a group of people sitting together immortally, to them I would join. But people “working on it” … I have less interest.
Cults and Supressive People
Well if it’s not right for you then okay, but if you don’t make any calls you won’t make any sales. One must be careful but there is no prize for dying after never having left the house.
To gradually enter new situations with your wits about you, learning, but remaining slightly guarded, trying hard but also leaving the back door open …. being strong enough within that you don’t get sucked out too much … these are central skills to navigating this world.
Yes I am really annoying, for myself also !!!
April 21, 2018 at 7:42 am #51960c_howdyParticipantBobby Mcferrin is very nicely deconstructing intellectuality,
Sorry for invalid ENGLISH.
HOWDY
April 23, 2018 at 1:46 pm #51968c_howdyParticipant…question 4 : in India…there is no connection between longevity and immortality…
This is a total ignorance about the Indian traditions.
This book above is scholar’s introduction to the Indian Alchemy from the point of religious studies; David Gordon White is clearly not any expert of Ayurveda and Jyotisha for example, but he has been able to point some directions for serious searchers of the Alchemical tradition.
Above is book about Indian medical alchemy.
And above is introduction to Jyotisha.
…in India even poor and stupid people became enlightened…
Yes and this Maharishi is very good example of this kind of village fool who hasn’t made really any kind of special achievements, but still have a following.
Sorry, for my broken English.
HOWDY
April 23, 2018 at 3:33 pm #51969c_howdyParticipant…it has come to my attention that humans are exactly where they are meant to be. And if you wish to live a higher eternal life…
Something similar like George Ellery Hale experienced?
HOWDY
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ellery_Hale#Biography-
Hale suffered from neurological and psychological problems, including insomnia, frequent headaches, and depression. The often-repeated myth of schizophrenia, alleging he claimed to have regular visits from an elf who acted as his advisor, arose from a misunderstanding by one of his biographers. He used to take time off to spend a few months at a sanatorium in Maine. These problems forced him to resign as director of Mount Wilson.
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