bagua

And I did not include all, things like ba duan jin, hua tao frolics and more, as well as cardio and weight training, which I think is the missing part of health maintenence for those only doing qi gong.

Example:

yesterday taught 3-hour qi gong class and probally did 2 hours on top of that, I have made it my lifestyle, so if I take a break…[Read more]

Im not trying to win, just converse, are you? At some point its time to move on, so on many topics we have reached that point, so lets flow in the tao and move on.

gua

Not sure I understand your question, if you are referring to tao practices, it includes the entire healing tao, through heaven and earth on the alchemy side. I do sounds, smile, orbit, fusion 1-3 with modifications, iron shirt 1-3 in my own way, many modificatons, yang long form, my own short form creation, primordial/winn, wu ji from emei, share…[Read more]

You are smarter than your question, so we go round and round again.

Greed, extreme desires, society conditioning are why we cultivate, to experience life without being controlled by them. Perfect is a judgement you make. I said we are complete, meaning all we need is here and now; you have a different view.

bagua

Good luck in your taking advantge of ego, we can pick up this conversation in a few years, see how its going.

bagua

Well it is an easy question.

And we all have free will, dont know why you make such a big deal of it.

gua

HI Faj:

Maxed asked:

“Is there a difference between you and the Dao?”

Is there?

gua

I think is best not to presume either way.

Hi SO:

First, if we are going to discuss this we need to agree on what are historical texts, try paul unschuld, histroy of Chinese Medicine, there are no Shang items to prove your arguement. It is common knowledge that five phase and yin-yang evolved as a school in the late Zhou Dynasty.

If you read Ma Wang Dui texts, there is no…[Read more]

As you say, there are many variations, many, and there are similarities and variations, this is my point.

One can extract out and forget everthing else, but it does not mean everything else did not exist, in the shang dynasty, curse of the ancestors was the culture’s cause of illness and disease and catastrophes. The development of natural…[Read more]

Check out Emie Chan Tao, you might find it interesting.

http://www.emeiqigong.com/

How do you know chia studied with One cloud? How do you know what One Cloud taught? Almost everything you have learned in the system is basically hearsay.

If you go to the roots of tao, you beleive in ancestral life, that all your problems are from curse of the ancestors, this is indigenous china and taoism, What you talk about is a collection…[Read more]

We never did get bagua to elucidate on what his contact said about just HOW One Cloud use emptiness for cultivation, or what he did to cultivate it. The word emptiness (kong, xu or wu) could be a synonym for the neutral space, which is a result of alchemical practice, and could also mean a formless state. The function and context would be useful…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

You bring up lots of things, so I will just focus on a few, otherwise the posts just go on and on and loose any focus.

Fajin
I want to clear up what shaping is. You have the wrong idea about shaping, Chan does not shape. Let me explain by starting off with a quote by Shou-Yu Liang in the Tantric Buddhism section of the book,…[Read more]

Sing o:

>>”You have a model you use and you want all to be compared to your model”
I think you are doing the same.
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One major difference bewteen us is I beleive there are many ways or methods to achieve “immortality”, I beleive the taoist alchemical method has the possibility to do it, I also believe Chan does…[Read more]

Hi So

Yin and yang appear in the body as the kidney water-heart fire relationship. According to chinese medicine, as a person grows older, yin and yang separate in the body.
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I dont think this is an accurate statement. Yin-Yang potency decrease with age, we become more deficient with age. The older saying,…[Read more]

hi SO:

To sum up, the alchemist recognizes yin and yang as an integral part of yuan with equal importance and validity, while the chan practitioner appears to recognize only the yuan as being valid.
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I dont think so. We see the Sun and Moon flow in their yin-yang patterns, we know this and know they flow…[Read more]

Many just link it to Luo Shu, 3-hun-east-wood; 7-west-po-metal.

bagua

My experience Japanese Zen is very strict, no nosies in meditation, no burping or farting like many ht people do like a badge of honor. The korean I have been exposed to allows people to move around if need to, its more relaxed in that way, the teaching is the same, the awareness is the same.

From my research there are not literally 3 hun…[Read more]

Hi fajin:

It would be good to know more.

Names of 7 po, what are they?

names of 3-hun and their names?

I dont think this info is in common tao literature and people just pass the info on.

I only know of that chan teacher, I have not opinion on him.

I suggested the korean zen master, he has a few books. Korean is more relaxed than…[Read more]