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Each can accomplish it. The actual realization is within each method. From my specific statement, they both get there, thats why at a certain level, they are the same.

Yes, both have the possibilty.

One more thing, to be able to live it in daily life.

Realization of and Unity with the whole

Hello Michael:

Very nice history of Chan. Thanks for posting it.

There is a difference bewteen the experience of Chan and the structures, schools and politics of it, as emperors and politcs got involved in it the things that go with thise formal structures manifested. I think people should be clear about this. The history of Taoism is the…[Read more]

Good idea. But will not ba available to April.

Enjoy.

bagua

Hi Fajin:

You are amazing!

Your misintepretation of my statements is a high form of alchemy, changing and transforming them in an instant.

I have a very open mind to all spiritual traditons and believe each has the same realization as its goal, for me even the Tao Alchemical formulas are really about “restoring” one to that normal…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

Pearls are creations, a method manufactured.

The reason I want people to know that “Steaming” is a normal process in the body is they do not mistakenly believe tao alchemy creates this, healthy living, exercise, meditation, sound, mantra, chanting, (michael has these chanting of vowels/sounds), and Chia chants the trigrams of the…[Read more]

Hi fajin:

can you answer my first question, is the steaming process a normal process in the body?

thanks,

bagua

Hello Fajin:

There is a difference between discussion and arguement. I prefer discussion.

From my view perspective. The body naturally creates the steam, its the normal process of Jing in the kidneys being cooked by Ming Men or Yang, creating Kidney Qi or if you prefer Yuan/Source Qi, which then is transported by the san jiao into eight…[Read more]

Hello fajin:

since this is a differnt topic, I thought I would join.

Fajin
Jing are essentially the hormones in your body. In most cases, jing is from kidneys that are adrenal hormones burned into bioelectric power (qi). How does sitting there and reciting a mantra accomplish the jing to qi translation better than literally steaming your…[Read more]

Hi Fajin;

I think your many posts reveal your current understanding, I will let them and you have the final word.

Good luck in your journey,

bagua

Hi Fajin:

You are a funny person.

There is no begnning and there is no end, look at the cirle. If we cannot agree on this, lets break until one of us gets an insight on this.

My true nature is your true nature, they are one, got it. The tree in front of you is your nature.

WOW, this is too much. Now you want to say Jesus learned the…[Read more]

Hi fajin:

Life never stops, why should I? I know my true nature, do you?

I dont think we will come to a common ground, but hope it will occur some time.

You need to slow down and read my posts slowly, I did not say, the taoist left to be buddhist, I said they included it in their practice. You may not be able to do this, but others can.…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

Round and round we go, where we land who knows?

Fajin
Interesting stuff. Though, life is a constant process of relating. There are five elements within us, around us in nature, and everywhere. Like you said, we must harmonize them within ourselves by becoming interdependent on the macrocosmos.
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We dont…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

I admire that you deidicate your life to cultivation, this is wonderful.

faj
Life itself has five elements, as does everything, alchemy should work on those five elements until you make it effortless.
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I dont think life has five individual elements. The Wu Xing or Five Phases are a process, not individual…[Read more]

Hi fajin:

I think you are very trapped in ideas, concepts and theories. And do me a favor, there is no need to keep referring that Michael will do this or do that, I will interact with him too.

Fajin
Hi Bagua,
I agree, we do need to practice more and discuss less, but discussion does have value, it is exchange of knowledge and wisdom. I…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

fajin
I guess Chan is to live in wu until the wei kicks in and you get wu-wei. Rather, I think it’s better to go step-by-step, jing to qi, qi to shen, etc. following the four phases. It’s like allowing jing, qi, and shen to catch up to wu because they are the ones who should have been first in the cultivation process. Rather lengthy…[Read more]

Hello Michael:

That was a wonderful post, thanks for sharing that profound information and insight, very rare people share that to the public. I look forward to reading more on soul completion.

I just have a few comments, mostly to clarify my view.

MW
I personally prefer not to call such a space Buddha (-hood), as for me it crowds that…[Read more]

Are you asking me this question Jenej?

If yes please ask in a different way.

bagua