March 3, 2006 at 3:29 pm #11246
I invite others (Max, Trunk, Nnonnth, etc.) to discuss this issue on my discussion with Bagua on this topic. Would be interesting to hear other views.
FajinMarch 10, 2006 at 11:29 am #11247
Noticed the passion and the struggle and the neutral/empty/open space was not mentioned in debate.
Nor greater, lesser and greatest view.
I have more practical question:
Can you comment on Wudang 13 element tai chi form’s 5 element training: Chia uses body directions is nature/geomantic body only and they say body movement which is personal body only. Both limiting.
Can you comment on Wudang disruptive forms: are they designed to clear surface meridians and do they include given inner keys like e.g. colours, apart from direct transmission.March 10, 2006 at 1:16 pm #11249
Neutral/empty/open space was constantly being mentioned by Bagua, he said we have to attune to it and be natural.
Can you further tell me about Chia’s 5 direction training, can you further elaborate?
The wudang qi disruptive forms are designed for what is in the name, to disrupt. To disrupt the flow of the opponent’s qi. They are meant for combat (my opinion) but can heal. I don’t know what you mean by inner keys like colour, you will have to elaborate on this a little bit too, I’ll be happy to answer your question.
FajinMarch 11, 2006 at 2:38 am #11251
I don’t think in real life spiritual development is neatly categorized as lessor, greater and greatest.
baguaMarch 13, 2006 at 9:56 am #11253
You study the heavens of planets.
Do you study the heavens of directions?March 13, 2006 at 10:01 am #11255
Basicaly you do a form to all four (five) directions.
Each for one yin organ/phase. With all the elements/correspondences of healing sounds added.
If there are ten disruptive forms, is this for each meridian?
What is the mental and emotional quality of different forms?
Are such qualities premapped?March 13, 2006 at 11:36 am #11257
I understand what you mean, but there are no numerological relations to the 12 disruptive forms. They each do something different. For example, there is the leaping form, penetration form, spiral form, earth form, etc. They are the precursors to all internal martial art styles as they were created by Zhang, Sanfeng.
Though, from being on Wudang I have learned that there were 2 Sanfeng’s, 1 was the acupuncturist/healer and the other second one was the inner alchemists who improved on it. These forms are from the first Sanfeng, he had a great knowledge of qi flow as he was an amazing acupuncturist/healer. They teach you about all important aspects of internal martial arts, like fajin dim mak, effortless movement, etc. You don’t need them if you’re on an alchemical path, but I like them alot, combat is what I enjoy.
FajinMarch 13, 2006 at 2:20 pm #11259
Are you asking me this question Jenej?
If yes please ask in a different way.
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