Fajin

>>I do Chan and tao alchemy, for my they go together like the Sun and Moon.<<

*Is Chan moon (yin) and Dao (yang) to you or vice-versa?

*Yes, it has certainly been a pleasure.

I picked that book up and I found the animal postures to be quite useful in strengthening all directions of the dantian. It is quite useful for taiji because it can make movement from the dantian more efficient. I sometimes practice the animal postures as a good warm-up for taiji. I would say that it is better for martial arts than inner alchemy.

Fajin

Bagua,

>>You obviously do not know much about martial arts, its not the art and not the training, its the individual that determines who wins in a contest. You can work the hardest, you can have great teachers, it all comes down to the individual skill.<>You are a sharp person, too bad you take an extremist approach in dialogue, you goal is to…[Read more]

>>Go study with a Chan master and then let me know if there is no strategy and method in their practice, their meditation and their interaction with student/teacher.<>Now here is the big distortion. You think its quicker to accomplish your alchemical goal, show me. Tell me the immortals now, where are they. I asked your teacher if he knew one…[Read more]

Bagua,

Like you said, Chan goes directly to the diamond or reunion with Dao. Whe you attempt to do this and skip all the phases that you have been stepped down into (wu-shen-qi-jing) you don’t need a pearl concentrated of your essence, you are simply trying to experience wu-wei until you actually get there, there is “no” strategy. In Chan, no…[Read more]

Hello Max,

Thanks for answering. I know that Bagua said that we become aware of the processes that are happening inside our bodies, but it is not just intensifying a certain natural process. As he answered me that the pearl/immortal child is created through your intent because this does not happen naturally. Bagua was referring to alignment of…[Read more]

Bagua,

What I meant was that you say Chan and Daoism get you to the final destination, unity and realization of the whole and carrying it out in daily life, in every moment. But can you attain this destination with only Chan or with only Daoism? Or do you NEED both in order to attain this wholeness and unity in every moment of our…[Read more]

One more question if you don’t mind. Can this be done through Chan Buddhism, Daoism, or both? Aren’t these paths complete in their intented effect?

Bagua,

I don’t want to start another discussion, just want to ask you though, what is the final goal that all paths have in common? Thanks for your time.

Fajin

Sorry, not new answer, I meant no answer as OK.

I don’t think I misinterpreted you, maybe I was unclear in my message…anyway. Let’s just wait for round 5, OK? I’ll take new answer as OK. I think we could both use a break until Monday.

Fajin

Bagua,

Let’s take it from the top.

>>Pearls are creations, a method manufactured.<<

*So, alchemical work is creation. Though, I do not know yet exactly what the kan and li practices have in store, I don't think that the whole formula is just an acceleration of the natural process. Although, I do agree with you, as alchemy does speed human…[Read more]

Yes, it is a normal process in your body, Bagua. I already said that, just as the microcosmic orbit is also a process in your body. Now can you answer my question about pearls and orgasms, in my reply please.

Fajin

>>To me, these formulas is just being aware of what already exsits, this awareness or concentration multiples the intensity, if you prefer to call it building up, collecting, gathering. The alchemy is being aware of things that already exists, which changes awareness or consciousness. the formula tells you to run thru patterns that exist in the…[Read more]