[johnathan]

hi Pietro!

Thanks for your reply, and nice summary of the HT practices.

I’m going to stick with the fundamentals: inner smile, 6 healing sounds, and microcosmic orbit only, and not move on.. for now anyways. This way if I mess up I won’t screw myself completely.

I will only advance further once I find a teacher who can start guiding me properly. I guess this will let me clean out, and detox my body and stick with the basics of stretching and light excercises until I find a teacher to show me the intermediate and advanced stuff.

About training with you guys: Fajin, Pietro or anyone else. I really think that would be a cool idea for me to stop for for a week a two. We can talk and share life experiences. I’m really up for the idea and wouldn’t mind going to Vancouver, or Germany. I’m in school and would definately need to save up, but i’m not going on any crazy tour trip, just the basic food and shelter should be sufficent.

In the mean time it’s liver cleansing, balance diet, light stretching, excercises, sports, mixed with inner smile and 6 healing sounds!

[johnathan]

hi Wendy!

Thanks for contributing to this post!
I really appreciate your sharing of knowledge, and support!

So the key thing is to keep the liver clean and free, and look at a lot of green stuff!

I will definately take breaks from work and school, I keep forgetting! When I study for school I always read to my eyes kill, forgetting to take breaks. There is a lot of intense studying and work.. I swear most of it is mindless crap to fry the brain in university!!

I use to watch a lot of tv, and computer! I mean spending half a day watching tv, or the whole day on the computer with msn, chat, computer games, things like that.
So I will definatley be going out more for walks in parks, and to try the green grass excercise to shed a few tears!

The healing sound you and Fajin recommended has definately helped!
Honey which Pietro recommend has also seemed to help as well, also thanks for adding the extra info about honey! this will make it easier for me to find raw honey!

Its funny how so many of these essential life lesson, and information is never taught to us in school.. instead in school we are taught all this academic balony which only leads us to more stress, frustration, greed, and competition! hvae you guys ever noticed that?!?!

[johnathan]

hey Fajin,

I’m gonna keep doing six healing sounds, balance my diet with meat and starch, but more veges, fruits, and grains.

I’m also going to try the two methods you said, the spinal breathing and the other one to build the conception vessel.

I’m seeing improvement in my health but again its very slow, energy wise I don’t get tried which is graet! but I do get tired by the end of the day. However, sometimes I feel I have a crazy energy boost in the evening where I’am so flexiable, agile, and strong, like I hvae more energy in the evening/night then the day. But this is only sometimes.

My weakest thing right now would be my eyes.. they always seem to get tried VERY VERY EASILY! Its always my eyes feeling tired, drained, hurt, etc etc.

My allergies lately have settled down surprisingly.

I’m going to check out Michael’s dvds and see how it works out, If I have any questions I will ask about it here, i will keep you guys posted

you can also contact me through my e-mail at applyouac@hotmail.com

[johnathan]

Thanks guys for your feedback!

I can’t seem to find raw honey anywhere so I can’t try that solution you gave me yet Pietro.

Fajin I have been smiling to solar plexus, and doing healing sound on liver only with the shhh sound. It seems to have worked, but only just a bit.. when I step outside after a bit my nose and eyes still gets crazy again!

I have some questions!

Spinal breathing, I have no idea how to do it. Is there any manuals/books I can use to learn it?

About the little orbit, on Alchemical Taoism it says there is danger of relying excessively on the microcosmic orbit?

Overall these methods seem great, but I feel and wish I had some sort of instructor who knows what they are doing to teach me, like you Fajin, and Pietro! I might plan on travelling just to visit you guys to learn the fundamentals.

About opening the microcosmic orbit, are you saying that once I know how to use the microcosmic orbit, and practice it daily, everything will be A okay from there?

Is practicing these chi kung practices something where you have to continual develop? if you don’t you will be stagnate, and be screwed in the end? like once I learn 6 healing sounds, inner smile, i have to move on to microcosmic, and iron shirt and wahtever comes after, if i don’t will I be stagnate and screw myself in the end?

Right now all I know is 6 healing sounds, and a little bit of inner smile. I combine this with practices like 5 tibetans, and other simple western excercise stretches. I do a lot of walking, and some jogging, and practice the tree/horse stance which you guys taught me.

I find that when I do the 6 healing sounds, it really cools my body, I find that it cools my body way too much and I get very cold, afraid of wind, cold etc. This is perhaps from my deficent condition, and lost of jing from before. So should I continue to do 6 healing sounds, or sound I stop? I do 6 healing sounds twice a day, one in the morning when I wake up, and the other time I do it is right before going to sleep. The 6 healing sounds have never been taught to me by anybody, I only bought the online book called Taoist Ways to Transform Stress to Vitality by Mantak Chia. I’m planning to integrate the inner smile next, but to be honest I’m really afraid to move on. All of these excercises seems like you really need an instructor who knows this to teach you the proper way!

Oh wait, Michael and Mantak Chia both have DVDs, do you guys think I could learn from those? or is it still best to learn from instructors?

How about you Fajin, and Pietro? can you guys take me in as a temporary student to learn and build foundation, so that I can learn to heal/build myself and grow from there?

I currently live in Montreal and go to school there, but I can save up and visit you guys temporarily for training. I really want to bring balance back to my health, mind, body and soul!

Greatful always for your guys support!
*smiles*
John

[johnathan]

thanks Jernej

[johnathan]

Hey Pietro, thanks again for sharing your insights.

I e-mailed the people at WAPF for sources to raw organic cow or goat milk. By the way will raw cow or goat milk affect my allergy conditions?

raw cream and un-heated honey, hehe sounds yummy!
if thats what I have to do to cure my allergies, then by all means I will do it!

My nose is running like crazy right now, and its making it very difficult to do the practices for healing such as tree/horse stance, stretches, and healing sounds

[johnathan]

yoyo guys

i think both you guys are right, i think Pietro’s diet plan works, and yours as well Fajin, it all ultimately depends on the individual, i’ve tried both of the suggestions that you guys suggested and for me i did the fruitian thing for a bit, but found it made me really deficent, i got cold and wind very easily, my hands, feet, and body were cold even on warm days. Basically on the fruitian diet i had all the nutirnets but it made me very cool… this is also because of my condition from being drained from jing, sexual activtiy thats why its not working 100%, but i’m sure it will hopefully when i heal to Fajin’s level. I added meat as Pietro recommended, though I havent tried raw yet meat yet, but I have eaten meat. The meat has helped a lot, it just seem to give me the yang, and heat which needed to balance my coolness. The meat also gave me energy, but i found when I ate to much meat, it gave me too much heat, yang, and made things hard to digest, and i got weaker and slower. So I have been trying to balance everything, right now i’m mixing moderate amount of meat, with lots of veges and it is working great for me, i also add in some nuts and seeds but not to much because it starts clogging up and causes to much heat like meat, and i’m all good, so far its working and i’m sure i will have to adjust and change my diet as my body changes/heals.

So i think both you guys have valid points, and it really depends on the person body, mind, soul, state, orgin, race, genetics, environment, and all the other factors, this is what makes the world wonderful! and wacky! becasue we are all so different, yet similar!

ever since you guys have been giving help and support, i have done a lot of research, and to be honest.. i always find both side to each story, i hear good and bad about everything.. for example, about raw meat i hear good and bad, about fruit diet i hear good and bad as well becasue the truth is.. it is good and bad! depending on the situation/ circumstance/ person/ etc.

so the best thing to do is test things out on yourself, and see if it works for you, if it does, then great! if it doesnt then you gotta move on, but don’t disown it because it can work for another person

anyways thanks again to the both of you guys again, you guys have provided a lot of insights, and support i’m learning so much everything from you guys, and from doing the excercises, and other recommednations you guys gave

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I have noticed one problem though, spring has just arrived and i thought i was sick at first, but it was allergies!!

i think thats why my eyes have been WEAK! because of allergies, cause i did the eye practices, and ate well and did all i could but my eyes, and nose, and head was still just completelely messed up.

I keep sneezing a lot, and keep having running nose! clear fluid! nonstop throughout the day! its making my eyes tired, weak, nose inflammed, sored, and head pressured up and hurting, and overall weakness, energy lost, tiredness!

is there some sort of cure! chi kung practice, or something i can eat!

i hope someone can help, because i was feeling great for couple weeks during healing process, then bam! somehow allergies started to come and i’m completely in a mess!

[johnathan]

hey Pietro!

thanks always for sharing your insightful experience, and support!

seeing it as it, is the best remedy you recommended, as in when we look at beautiful women in magazines etc, its all a show.. all set up, camera, costumes, fake look, snap.. thats the reality, when we view it that way.. then the urge, the fantasy is gone! thank goodness!

I want to ask you something, this question came up, remember you said you did HT practices for a quite a bit, but you stopped

can i ask why you stopped? you also said you had a serious health problem, depeltion in blood, etc.

Didn’t the HT practices help you? i mean is there something I know about HT practices or anything which should be of concern.. i remember a pharmacist told me that one of her friends from china practices chi kung and screwed himself completed, he lost his mind and this is with the aid and guidance of a teacher…

there were other stories too, where lots of people screwed themselves over from not being grounded, etc

IS that why you tell me to becareful with the microcosmibt orbit excercise?

I got scared last time cause a lot of pressure got built up in my jade pillow, i mean i could feel pressure, stress there, my head felt so heated up, heavy, and pressure from blood or whtevare, it resulted in headaches and cramps in head/neck area as well. I didnt know what to do.. all i did was massage, and imagine all the energy going to the naval.. it helped a bit.. but the best thing i did was go to sleep and pray it would fix itself, and i woke up next morning feeling better and the pressure was gone! whew!

[johnathan]

hey Swedich Dragon,

thanks for your feedback, i’m glad that you have been gaining insights

i want to say that porn is not bad, but for specific/certain/individuals such as you, me and other people it can be. I know people who watch porn on a seldom basis, and are not addicted or messed up in any way by it, its just like those people who smoke, drink and do drugs seldomly and are not addicted, and are completely near healthly still.

for us i think it was something in our childhood which triggered us to easily get addicted to porn, for me i think as a kid, the adults i was around watched porn, or sexually explicit material, i was also living with people, and had school friends back in grade school who looked at porn magainze. So as a kid i didnt know what this was, and was wrongly taught. I still remember the first time i saw porn.. seeing the naked people, it was very intense.. it had this very.. weird flavour and feeling seeing people naked… very sexual, and almost very intense to see so much skin, and the acts was just beyond me.. but as a kid we absorb, and micmick whatever we see, so the school kids bringing porn to school was not a good foundation for sexual education

i also grew up as a lonely, afraid of girls, wimpy kid, as i was growing up especially in teen and late young adult years i wanted be manly, i started to read up on penis excerises, techniques methods to enhance sex, love, i wanted to be a lady’s man, i wanted to be so good in sex for women, and wanted them.. to the point of dominating etc because of fearing them etc… so watching porn fulfilled my loneliness and fear. I was too scared and made fun of by peers for not having girlfriends, or being shy around girls, at the same time i was watching porn and seeing girls being harassed and treated in unusal ways.. my reality was being manipulated and bended at such a fragile age for the mind..

this led to a shit load of emotional imbalance.. lots of anger, hatred, explosive behaviour, i was a complete mess… then it was acutally thanks to having relationships with girls, having sex with them, and going out with them, watching more porn etc.. that reality and fantasy started to click in!

PORN and REAL WORLD DONT MIX, you can’t force or expect a girl to act, be, and dress, behave like a pornstar, its all fake crap, thats when reality started to click, thats when relationship was hell, but things made sense, within the BAD there was good.. it was teaching me a lesson, that porn had really messed me up, that this was mindless, and most importantly i was losing my life energy. From here i finally admited and realized i had a serious problem, from here i wanted to see females in the proper way, get reality and fantasy straight… i started to watch less media… the MEDIA IS VERY DANGEROUS.. for sex… it usses a lot of sex DIRECTLY and INDIRECTLY!!

music videos, celebrities, commercials, ads, moovies, all of those things are dangerous things that gets our reality and fantasy mixed up…

anyways now that i look back everything worked out, within all the bad there was good.. though i wish i didnt have to get in this mess in the first place, when i looked back i learned a lot, and it was through this hardship and negative events which led me to mature more, to learn more about myself, to respect myself as in physical body, mind, and soul, and utliamtely to respect and to love others as well

i’m so glad.. because now i really cherious sex.. its not just some mindless physical thing, its the power to create new life.. thats intense.. its also a sacred experience, something so profound, so beyond that sex cannot be something taught, or expressed… becasue it is unique for all individuals, couples etc.. the sponstaonus, the moment, the now arrises in true sex.. its not about methods, or knowing how to give blowjobs, or bang a lady, or man properly.. its about the fun, the energy harmony, the balance, the unity.. and so much more which i cannot describe because i have not experience yet..

anyways i guess it was desinted that i had to post and start the forum thing, so that those in need would read and would be helped, and there are many in our situation, and i’m glad many have shown great support! and feedback! so thank you again to everyone for contributing!

i wish great compassion, and great will, have faith and trust in “soul” your “heart” it will eventually guide you the right way, within the bad is the good, and do not give up, as long as you are alive you can make a difference! so its never too late!

*smile of compassion!*

[johnathan]

thanks freeform for your added feedback, i’m gonna take RJ with honey and see if it does anything,

i didn’t really notice any huge results all i noticed was:

some energy gain, thought it oculd be psychological

and very weird tingingly, cooling effects in my tantien

thats about it..

i cannot seem to find whole raw milk! where do you guys get your goat, or cow milk? i can only find commercialized ones in the grocery stores i go to. I currently live in Montreal, Canada.

[johnathan]

hi thanks Mat! I just tried the peking royal jelly today, it tastes like honey and alcohol mixed! my tongue and throat was numb for a bit, either because of the alcohol or allergies! hehe, but i think it was because of the alcohol. I don’t notice anything yet, perhaps a slight energy boost and feeling good? though it might be psychological.

Thanks again for your feedback!

[johnathan]

oh by the way,

does this royal jelly stuff get addictive and become coffee like, drug like? or anything like that
because I definately do not want that to happen, i don’t want this to be some temporary energy boost and then feel completely drained after..

i have a feeling multivitamin pills and stuff are scamish like that, i went to the vitamin store to ask for royal jelly, and they told me that was not for me and tried to sell me all this other crap to boost overall male power, health etc etc..

i just want to use it (royal jelly) to help aid me to recover, and then not have to ever use it again because i will hopefully be in very good health and balance!

by the way is mixing royal jelly with honey safe?
or is it best to consume royal jelly by itself?

I’m gonna plan to drink the vial before eating

thanks again for your help mat!

[johnathan]

hi mat! thanks for your reply!

as for holding your arm out, this is how I interpret your instructions:
my right arm is complete stretched out oh my side; as in jesus on the cross but only with right arm out, and palms facing up holding onto say.. a book

my left arm is bent while my left hand is holding onto the peking royal jelly box, at my top chest area right below my throat which is where i assume my thymus gland is

from there i will start to sense and feel my right arm and hand, if its light it means royal jelly is all good, if its heavy and makes my right hand weak, that means a no go!

please tell me if i got this right, or if i misinterpreted something, thanks!

as for the royal jelly i bought the peking brand and plan to try it tommorrow, I was planning to only consume half of one of those little 10ml bottles first, to see what happens. They recommend one of those 10ml vial bottles a day.. I thought that might be to intense..

you said the peking royal jelly brand is too strong? what do you mean when you say this?

as in results from consuming this product? what did you notice? more energy? improvement in vitality, health etc?

thanks again for your advice and help!

i’ll be buzzing for for a bit too! hehe

[johnathan]

hi mat thanks for feedback, what do you mean by “you can muscle test it”

And about being careful of ginseng being added? is this a bad or good thing? will it distort the royal jelly? and what is the best form for royal jelly to be taken as? liquid vial? pill? powder?

[johnathan]

Thanks for the forum link PietroS, wow I didn’t realize SO MANY MALES are trying to seek sexual balance as well. I always thought I was the only one screwed, and all the other guys sex lives were all fine and dandy!

Now you have me thinking… about the whole to ejculate or not to ejculate

I’m going to plan to not ejaculate for the time being, as my body doesn’t feel the urge or anything, so might as well take advantage to heal, and not force any old habits

I have been doing all the excercises you guys recommended, and for some reason I think that my sexual energy has been spent, or transformed in those practices thats perhaps why I don’t feel any sexual urge.. as of yet anyways

So right now I think the key thing for me is to use my sexual energy in the qigong excerises, stretching, yoga, breathing, meditation practices; this way the sexual energy is used in a manner which will hopefully help build my mind, body and soul in a better way, rather then using my sexual energy in creating false fantasies, and mindlessly using it on a temporary pleasure with huge negative effects.

I really hope this works, to be drained of sexual life energy is painful… you feel like dying at times, or the body feels so stiff, frail, sick… etc..

However, lately I have been getting minor urges… simple pictures of women from magazines.. like when I went grocery shopping.. on the magazine stand, so much sexual pictures of women…

For some reason, girls in real life don’t turn me on sexually, I see them in a respected human manner.. I acutally have more confidence around them now, back then I use to feel so guilty because of my inner masturbation/porn addiction. The girls in real life who were so hot I created a fantasy with them, but now I see things as is..I guess you can say

BUT DAMN IT, the stuff on the internet, tv, media, movies, and magazines shows girls in a really sexual manner no matter what, seeing the girls from the media starts stimulating me… even something as simple as seeing their skin.. its just the colors they use, the clothing they wear, their skin, their breast, their face, their lusty look, all of that…

ahh what to do, what to do

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