jsun

>>it’s hard to fit everything you want to do into limited time..<>the whole thing is a theory with many subtheories<>have you checked out mary burmeisters jin shin jyutsu?<>I am saying that there is research<>i am saying keys are in our own body and biochemistry<<

– the keys to *what* specifically?

Naturally if you can say something is…[Read more]

… about what the discussion is, and I’m not hoping for a ‘winner’ – just to be understood. My view as you know is that when you ‘realize’ this version of yourself it involves a definite change in this linear time zone. This is important because here, evolution manifests. Naturally all is still present outside of time, in eternity nothing changes…[Read more]

… on this subject yet.

>>our
true self wants it all . . . whatever “all” means.<<

… 🙂

Bagua's attitude, which factually speaking is quite correct of course, is that the immortal part of oneself is always available, and represents contentment and an end of uselessly striving for things in one's imagination, to realize in real life,…[Read more]

… with this idea of Steven’s that the ‘big picture’ is separate to these many ‘incidental details’ which serve only as things to gratify our curiosity, or to ‘play with’ as Bagua says.

If one looks at the enormous impact that the five element theory has had on Chinese medicine, for example, one sees there the profound impact that spiritual…[Read more]

… I’m just asking you some questions.

I did *not* say that you had no experience, one of my *questions* was, are you thinking you understand the planetary spheres from reading alone? To which you are perfectly free to answer, no I’m not! Or yes I am, but there’s more to it! Or I’m not sure!

I don’t assume the answer, I ask the question to…[Read more]

… just answer the questions, assume I’m dumb and although you answered already for some reason there is something wrong with me so you need to talk slowly.

What assumptions am I making?

Are you saying that Mantak’s book on cosmic healing says that the soul is a magnetic phenomenon?

Are you saying that you are understanding the nature…[Read more]

… yeah he does seem a lovely person! Nice interview there, I will look at the whole thing when I can.

>>Buddha FOLLOWED zen???? ‘Platonism’ is to do with Plato’s ‘Republic’? I can’t believe a scholar wrote that!**

I believe what he refering to is that “The teachings of the Buddha” had evolved and that adherents parallely followed actually…[Read more]

I remember once I tried to explain MichaelW’s work in retreat, I think on Huashan, to someone not in the least esoteric. It didn’t go very well. What seemed to me to be an enthralling (and successful) experiment on Michael’s part into the subtleties of earth and cosmos came out as, “He spent a long time alone in an isolated mountain cave drinking…[Read more]

… even though you did *not* answer me!

So first of all, my questions to you again:

1. What assumptions am I making, be specific?

2. Are you saying that Mantak’s book on cosmic healing says that the soul is a magnetic phenomenon? Are you saying that you are understanding the nature of the planetary spheres just from reading about…[Read more]

… 1st of all, *what* suppositions and assumptions are you talking about in what I said?

2nd of all, you say:

>>no its no rapid leap, i just happened to have a copy of mantak’s e-book which says it plainly and clearly..<>the question is proof… this is very simple<>in the 1800’s if someone came to you with a foot injury and an infection…[Read more]

… that’s why I said in my original reply to Dog: “I still feel if one hung around a genuine isolated christian monastery for any length of time one might see some interesting things”! As I said when you look into esoteric Christianity there is definitely something there. Dog mentioned that higher-level Christians have always had magical…[Read more]

… and I think you hit on the key when you say:

>>tha digestion process changes the collective whole. The point is that the physical dimension of humans incarnating on earth is intentionally differentiated to allow learning, experimentation with free will/responsiblilty that does NOT exist in the same way at the collective level.

Another…[Read more]

…. you can easily draw that septagram yourself though. Draw a 7-pointed star, and write the days of the week in order around the outside of it, one for each point. Then starting at the moon, move along the lines of the star to find the spheric order. You’ll see what I mean… I think… j

… amazing how conversations start to interleave. Over on the philosophy forum Dog is talking about ‘cosmologies’ and he mentioned the days of the week. Now you are mentioning the planetary spheres… did you know the relationship between these?

The western names for days of the week are based on the planetary spheres (hence in hermetics the…[Read more]

… that a religious scholar is writing about this! At least he may get more people involved in understanding that, as you say, there is a reality behind ‘beliefs’.

The list you give, is it his? 🙂 It is a very bizarre list.
Buddha FOLLOWED zen???? ‘Platonism’ is to do with Plato’s ‘Republic’? I can’t believe a scholar wrote that!

The…[Read more]

… all of your description matches western interpretation. I reproduced again below Fludd’s cosmology for you.

>>the solar system is an energy structure with nine major awareness belts<>each belt has unique frequencies and qualities.. the soul remains strongly connected to the sun.<>1) sun related cloud soul of hun
2) moon related white soul…[Read more]

… actually the more I look at the Christian tradition in terms of actual teachings for self-development, the more I admire it. My problem with it has always been how incredibly mixed up in *politics* it was… plus its disastrous repudiation of nature, the body, etc. The other problem is, the teachings for self-development aren’t actually, like,…[Read more]