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2012 happened in 1998?

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  • This topic has 14 replies, 7 voices, and was last updated 17 years, 12 months ago by wendy.
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  • May 17, 2007 at 12:31 pm #22226
    voice
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    I decided to learn a little bit about 2012, seeing as it is getting close and all. I knew that it had to do with the Mayan calendar, but was surprised to learn that the calendar was, according to John Major Jenkins, based on an astronomical prediction.

    Jenkins suggested that the Maya looked to the stars, the heavens, for a non-moving, transcendent center. They first focussed on the Pole Star but left it because as their culture moved south the Pole Star would be lower in the horizon calling it to fall. After 50 BC they started to track the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. As time went on, they discovered that the Milky Way Galaxy was also falling in the sky. They predicted that in the year 2012, the Sun on the December solstice would be aligned with the Equator of the Milky Way Galaxy.

    That alignment actually occurred in 1998! Actually, the Decemeber Solstice Sun will touch the Galactic Equator for the period from 1980 to 2016, with it centered on it in 1998.

    This started me thinking about those dates and my life. In 1980 was when I first started buying spiritual books. It is 1998 that was a huge, pivotal year in my life: one of my best friends (my doppelganger, in fact) died in an avalanche, I had my first major chi experience in a chi fight, I started Healing Tao practices, I bought my first house, I first visited Europe, and my wife became pregnant with our first and only child. Since then, I have really just been working with what started in that year (housework alone is endless)!

    So, was 1998 a big year for you too?

    galactic alignment

    May 17, 2007 at 1:15 pm #22227
    Steven
    Moderator

    Hmm . . . I’m going to have to think more carefully.
    The only thing of consequence I can think of now that
    happened in 1998 is that I got my bachelor’s degree.

    BTW: What is a “chi fight”? Can you elaborate more
    on this first major chi experience? 🙂

    Steve

    May 17, 2007 at 2:31 pm #22229
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    I was introduced to the chi fight at the end of a weekend class on energy awareness and energy protection. We spent most of the weekend learning to sense things with our energy and use different means of creating a protective shell around us.

    The course ended with a chi fight for two reasons: so we’d know when we are being attacked by someone else, and so we’d know when we are attacking someone else. The approach is just to stand by the person, either classic gunfighter distance apart or, for the daring, to stand with your back to them. Then, people would fight with their mind – no arm motions, not even facial or eye motions.

    There were about a dozen of us in the course, and I was up last with another guy. While watching others fight I’d think of using their approaches on my partner, but coming to the conclusion that it wouldn’t work, nor would that etc. So, when our turn comes up, I just feel too tired to fight, but the teacher said it is important. So, we fought, and it was very weak. Then the teacher laughed and said “You know, the fight was long over before it began!” What had happened is that, while others were fighting, whenever he and I thought about what we might do to the other, we actually were fighting! Whoa….

    Since then I have become ever-more aware of when I am fighting with someone, or even myself (the fight with the self is like “NO – you can’t have another piece!”). Fighting consumes lots of energy, and is really very unskillful.

    I do not recommend trying a chi fight with someone! When I did it, it was supervised, the teacher making sure we had no bad intent, and he cleaned us up energetically afterwards.

    May 17, 2007 at 8:18 pm #22231
    Christopher
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    1998 was a huge,pivotal year for me and my wife.We moved away from an oppressive small town to the beach and started our life.Some of our best memories are from 1998-99.

    May 17, 2007 at 9:10 pm #22233
    Steven
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    May 18, 2007 at 6:16 pm #22235
    Fabian
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    I believe you are right ”voice”! Autumn/winter 1998 was the time when there was an extreme intensification of other-dimensional openings lasting for a couple of years (riding also to a certain extent on the expectations from the global psyche towards the trends to a new millennium). The stupid battle in heaven seemed to have calmed down a bit since then as there are strong souls on earth right now who have opposed their own role as carriers of a fixed future. A “veil” seems to have been lifted, and the Mayan calendar is only a device aimed towards maintaining and strengthening their one “light zone” (not ours). It´s so exotic, isn´t it, to feel connected to all this cosmic happening? The irony is that it is only taking place in the contaminated mind of the vital and not in the cosmic. A new world is slowly taking place, and I believe it is finally sanctioned from “our” lesser gods that makes it a bit easiser.

    In my own pathetic life, there was only transiting Jupiter conjuncting my natal Neptune when all these beings were fighting to “get my soul”. I was expecting something else, but I can´t find that other other measurements.. So much has calmed down since then (on a cosmic level) and all the well-meant predictions of exposing all the lies that you Americans seems so be so caught up in will not come to fruition. It is too inert, you see. What happened in 1998 has been giving everything a new chance to relive what we missed at that time.

    May 18, 2007 at 10:49 pm #22237
    Dog
    Participant

    I was 14-15 all the things I was doing at the time girls, drinking, the parties. Girls, popularity all that came easy I had masterd that. I just felt alone at times no real other souls that I could connect with. Just did not feel right anymore. I was feeling pretty sick I was drinking allot of water. All this stuff just came up. I got initiated and started working with the Rainbow Bridge. Started to feel allot better. But it was hard to stay on tract because I had no support team. No group to share with. I did not share this part of my life with my friends for years. I mostly shared that stuff with my mom. I would go to A.R.E camp in the summer and felt like my self there, I could be mister popular(I was mainly popular becuase I had friends that where girls and I found ways of making people feel accepted and respected) and exspress all parts of my self. I think we could say we are living in a time in between. In between old and the new the grey area. We can celebrate that we did not blow are selves up.:)

    May 18, 2007 at 10:51 pm #22239
    voice
    Participant

    “It´s so exotic, isn´t it, to feel connected to all this cosmic happening? The irony is that it is only taking place in the contaminated mind of the vital and not in the cosmic. A new world is slowly taking place, and I believe it is finally sanctioned from “our” lesser gods that makes it a bit easiser.”

    Would you be able to elaborate a bit on your interesting ideas Fabian? I am intrigued what you mean by – this happening in the contaminated mind, not in the cosmic? by “our lesser gods”? and how do you experience this?

    thanks

    May 19, 2007 at 1:41 pm #22241
    Fabian
    Participant

    I feel that since 1998 we are either in a temporary dream-construct, constructed as a rescue for something, a construction from “cosmic-mental” planes – a thought (a negation). Or there is an awakening relative to having a superficial barrier or membrane removed (an affirmative action); a membrane attached to the vital worlds or planes directing and controlling the dynamism of our earths so precious essence (her own potential and desire for “whole-body” immortality).This removal also has it´s origin in “cosmic-mental” planes (lesser creator gods).

    Honouring the goddess of trinity however (as the truth of our earth-plane and our time), I think the real answer goes back to a compassionate release of Real Energy having the capacity and desire to penetrate to the truth of everything. Thus, rather than having something constructed or removed there is an intensified dissolving process, having the effect of creating a sharpened contrast between the world of ignorance and the world of evolving gnosis. The beings of the latter include the first category according to the principles of holarchy, and are the ones´s who see or observe this division. There seems to be a “stand-by” positioning, a waiting, for the masses, when half-truths beings are no longer being able or willing to direct or control. Thus, heightened free-will for everyone generates a strange felling of “benevolence” that many don’t feel that that they deserve. Translating this newly-won feeling of freedom to their own evolutionary purposes or desires becomes the cause for substantiating their own dream word of ignorance. The experience of yuan is Neptune, and translates into glamour and ideals.

    Maya-calendar is a figment of light; mental-light beings from extraterrestrial worlds wanting to secure their own future by controlling their failed past (our earth and time).They belong to the same category of beings and influences as the consciousness that stands behind Merkaba, Reiki, and other happy “light-workers”. Earth’s children prostituting themselves for the benefit of imagined and illusory power becomes the next creation’s “evil” directors; failed involutionary “creators, so static and resistant in their defensive ignorance.

    Believing in the Maya calendar is like watching a movie with a lot of violence; you don’t educate yourself, you rather give attention to the false and negative. Does Jenkin´s happy books put your own soul essence in resonance? Is there something in his books more than information? Would you believe me if I said that our earth has the face of a male, or would you rather hold his hand when he showed you his way referring to his researches?

    j

    May 20, 2007 at 11:45 am #22243
    Dog
    Participant

    Every year has a general feel to it, but I would not lable one year “the it year” as the physical changes slowly, the shift might have already happened on all types of levels but the physical is still changing.. What is intersting(to me) is how one calander can calculate for the pulse rate at one level with a differrent date and a nother calender looking at a different pulse rate with a different date. Also showing some polarity between the energetic and the physical. Energetic using great change(death) to stimulate compassion, charity. What is interesting is changing the past and future through the present. Sort of the center to the wheel. The pulse that comes out and in from the present. Do not know if any of that made since. 🙂 I am sure its writen some where better.

    May 20, 2007 at 4:27 pm #22245
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    May 20, 2007 at 4:28 pm #22247
    Beginner
    Participant

    “What is interesting is changing the past and future through the present”

    I would like to

    hear more about this…Barry

    May 21, 2007 at 12:02 am #22249
    Dog
    Participant

    The present you open it up and its a sterring wheel. To what? The universe. Can you say responsibility. Consciously creating with responsibility. This is part of why I like the Healing Tao stuff. There this that third force that resolves and balances all things. In the center in the present. Just my take on it so far.

    May 21, 2007 at 8:16 pm #22251
    Dog
    Participant

    I wanted to also add my recommendation for robert shapiros book Explore race. I am just finishing up the first book. You might like it.

    May 22, 2007 at 12:12 pm #22253
    wendy
    Participant

    Chris, in addition to your investigation

    It was the most mind dazzling time period of my life. Like the sky was falling down on my head and my earth was shaken so heavily I nearly lost my sane mind. It was a terrible inner earth quake that shook me so hard it took years to give it a place and feel good with it. It changed my world view, and it changed my take on life completely. It was the time I grew up very fast, a time I never forget, and a time that changed my life in depth.
    Little Wendy was catapulted in time and space and had to find a way back home…

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