June 18, 2009 at 3:13 pm #31735
Hey guys, I am curious if anyone here has studied the 7 star stepping pattern? I am practicing the 9 Palace stepping and I know they are related and was wondering what those who practiced the 7 star stepping had to say about their experiences and what they use the pattern for. Any posts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
ShenchiJune 18, 2009 at 5:16 pm #31736
Michael teaches on his China trips along with the Primordial.
He also teaches it during Star Alchemy.
Actually it’s a great form to practice with the Primordial,
and they seem to complement each other. They form a
To give Dog a boost, I now link to his webpage
where he talks a little about it and his experiences 🙂
SJune 18, 2009 at 5:40 pm #31738
Do you think the 7 star pattern works more with pre-heaven or post-heaven energy or both?
SJune 19, 2009 at 10:01 am #31740
It gets deeper as you practice. I think most would agree that the main energy you are working with in the form is the Pole star.June 20, 2009 at 10:53 am #31742
hmmmmm. Ok sounds interesting. My Experience with the 9 palaces is the same in that it seems to get deeper and more powerful as you go. Thanks Dog!
Peace & Tao
ShenchiJune 21, 2009 at 12:37 am #31744
I’m not an expert on Taoist cosmology, so I’ll
answer as best I can–also based on personal experience.
The stepping movements follow the stars of the Big Dipper,
so by doing the form you are forming a link of intention
with its component stars. The associated arm movements
then act as a spiritual magnet/vortex, which then attracts
the stellar energy down into your sacred space and into
your being. Meanwhile, the repetitive stepping–in and
by itself–act as a pump, pumping earth qi into you from
below. Note that both the stellar energy and the earth qi
are energies of the manifest world, i.e. later heaven.
These two energies come into your core and mix. A few
periodic “retrograde” movements of backward stepping
act to cement this mixed energy deep into a core
inner dimension of yourself.
Aside from these infrequent retrogrades of individual
steps, the overall movement of the form is clockwise
as you go from one Big Dipper mandala to the next.
Clockwise is the manifesting direction.
Putting all these elements together, I would say that the form
has the power to potentize your intention and alter your
unfolding destiny in the ever-developing present moment.
Thus, in my opinion, while most of the qigong operates
in the world of form using intensely powerful energies, there
is also a very small periodic mini-dance on the boundary
between form and formless which allows it to imprint
intention into the present moment.
StevenJune 21, 2009 at 2:08 am #31746
From my experience, and also what Michael has said, the 7-star form creates tha pattern of the big dipper on earth, and like Steven said, it mixes star and earth energy in your core. Stars are the most accessible form of yuan qi in later heaven, but one must have grounding in earth qi before being able to integrate it. I also like to use the toning to amplify one cloud’s formulas while doing this form.June 22, 2009 at 1:21 pm #31748
Once again thanks. That’s exactly the type of info I was looking for. It sounds like a very powerful form. I hope I get the chance try it out first hand. Again thanks for the info that helps to fill in a lot of the blanks.
Peace & Tao
ShenchiJune 22, 2009 at 1:26 pm #31750
Thanks for your response. Between what you and Steven have posted and what I have gotten from Dog’s site I am beginning to put together a picture of how the form works. I do have one question, and maybe Steven already answered this and I need to read closer, but is the energy gathered in the chong mai and mixed there, or is it one of the Tan Tiens? Again thanks for your reply.
Peace & Tao
ShenchiJune 24, 2009 at 12:35 am #31752
Since the hand patterns are at a different level every two rotations, the Qi is gathered at a different level each time. When I practice it using One Clouds formulas, I use the dan tien according to the formula and the hand level. When practicing it without intention, the qi is gathered generally throughout the body or in the dan tien according to the level of the hands depending on your focus.
The application of this qigong form varies according to the practitioner.June 24, 2009 at 6:14 pm #31754
Again, thanks. Wow sounds like there is a lot going on in that form. I like what I hear. There are some similarities between the 7 star system and the 9 palaces, but I think they are two totally different systems altogether. I hope I can learn the 7 star system one day so I can compare the 2 back to back.
Anyway thanks a lot for the info it has been a real help. Until next time,
Peace & Tao
ShaneJuly 7, 2009 at 5:03 pm #31756
7 Star stepping is part of a larger practice traditionally found in Traditional Taoist systems. 7 star stepping is part of the 28 constellation practices, which follow seasonal Guas of the I ching, mudra, mantra, seasonal star patterns and Talisman’s, planet & body correalations and specific days. It might be hard to find someone willing to share because of the stigma of Closed Taoist Traditions to the public.
That’s the traditional answer although basically you are trying to experience heaven on earth…find a teacher that could teach the variations of this practice along with the I Ching Tradition and Feng Shui, Pa Kua walking.
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