August 12, 2005 at 7:42 pm #7331
Rocks add weight to Atlantis debate
Wednesday, 10 August 2005
A submerged island near the Straits of Gibraltar has rock formations that may make it a candidate for the lost city of Atlantis. Plato’s account of how the fabled city of Atlantis sank below the surface of the ocean has scientific grounding, according to a seafloor survey of an island west of the Straits of Gibraltar.
Dr Marc-André Gutscher of the University of Western Brittany in France performed a detailed mapping of the seafloor on Spartel Island, already proposed as a candidate for the origin of the Atlantis legend in 2001 by French geologist Professor Jacques Collina-Girard.
Lying 60 metres beneath the surface in the Gulf of Cadiz, the island is right “in front of the Pillars of Hercules”, or the Straits of Gibraltar, as stated by Plato.
Analysis of sedimentary deposits reveals a large earthquake and a tsunami hit the island about 12,000 years ago.
This is roughly when the Greek philosopher’s writings indicate the city was destroyed, Gutscher reports in the current issue of the journal Geology.
“Geological records revealed that in the geographic region chosen by Plato for his narrative, there are recurrent great earthquakes [magnitude 8.5-9] which create enormous tsunamis, with waves 5-15 metres in height. One such catastrophic event occurred around 10,000 BC,” says Gutscher.
Even though explorers have searched for the sunken island in no less than 40 different places, no evidence of Atlantis has ever been found. Every clue about the fabled island goes back to Plato’s account, written in about 400 BC.
The words of Plato The philosopher claims that two centuries earlier, Egyptian priests had told the Greek statesman Solon of a flourishing civilisation outside “the pillars of Hercules”.
When the people of Atlantis became wicked and decadent, the gods punished them by sending “violent earthquakes and floods”.
“The power came forth out the Atlantic Ocean … In a single day and night of misfortune … the island of Atlantis disappeared in the depths of the sea,” writes Plato.
Gutscher says the type of destruction Plato describes is a very accurate description of a “sudden, catastrophic destruction associated with a great earthquake”, like the famous Great Lisbon earthquake that ravaged the southern Iberian region in 1755, with associated tsunami heights reaching 10 metres.
Indeed sedimentary records reveal that catastrophic events like the 1755 Lisbon earthquake occur every 1500-2000 years in the Gulf of Cadiz.
Turbidite, a type of deposit resulting from sand and mud shaken by underwater avalanches. An unusually thick turbidite, a thick, coarse-grained deposit resulting from sand and mud shaken up by underwater avalanches, was dated to around 10,000 BC, around the same time as Plato’s account.
Layers of turbidite also reveal that eight earthquakes occurred in the area after Atlantis sunk.
Each earthquake would have resulted in a drop of the sea floor by several metres, making Spartel higher by 40 metres by 12,000 years ago. The island could have measured five by two kilometres.
“If inhabited, it would have probably been by simple fishermen, certainly not the advanced Bronze Age culture described by Plato,” says Gutscher.
“Atlantis is a myth,” Professor Christos Doumas, director of Akrotiri Excavations in Santorini, summarised at the conference on Atlantis on the Greek island of Milos, last month.
The conference highlighted 24 criteria that a geographical area must satisfy to qualify as a site where Atlantis could have existed.
Among several other oddities, the island must have sheltered a literate population with metallurgical and navigational skills, hot springs, northerly winds, elephants, enough people for an army of 10,000 chariots and 1200 ships, and a ritual of bull sacrifice.
“No single proposed location in the world satisfies all these 24 criteria. At least the Spartel hypothesis offers a geologically plausible scenario for the type of catastrophic destruction described by Plato in this region of the world,” Gutscher says.August 13, 2005 at 4:27 pm #7332
Try the Azores, farther out, right direction beyond the Pillars.
A giant continent, broken up into five islands, the sinking of the last one described by Solon. Happened over 30,000. years.
mAugust 13, 2005 at 6:33 pm #7334
I kind of thought that Atlantis was a coastal/island civilization that had to change locations as the seas rose at the end of the last Ice Age. IS this not accurate?
mikeAugust 13, 2005 at 7:08 pm #7336
Not according to my atlantean scientist – priest guide.
Atlantis had more advanced technology than we do – based on capturing neutral force (non-polluting). They also had atomic weapons – all recorded in the Hindu epic the Ramayana.
They got the technology from aliens – by trading women for breeding. So Atlantis is our dark side in a parallel time zone – we are replaying it with technology and power struggles today. They blew themselves up. Will we?
mAugust 14, 2005 at 5:10 am #7338
These aliens, were they actually extra-terrestrials as we are fed today, or were they just a different race of humans as many writers and scholars believe?
For example the Nephilim (sons of the serpent), were described as giants and skeletons have been found of larger humanoids. These were said to have intermarried with the people they encountered and taught them the arts of civilisation.
This brings up the question of alien visitations today. Are these genuine physical beings or are they spirits associated with various planetary bodies and stars morphing to our group expectations to a certain extent, much like fairies who also abduct people etc.
Maybe these human(?) Nephilim attained immortality and operate within the spiritual planes much like chinese immortals. In fact Hsi Wang MU the ancient chinese goddess bears the name of an ancient legendary continent that predates Atlantis.
Also in regard to the siting of Atlantis, Plato stated that it lay in the ocean close to a continent once accessible to ancient voyagers. Columbus, who sailed in the santa maria bearing a red cross on a white background is believed to have been a member of the Knights of Christ (the reconstituted Templars) who had contact with the Moors and were said to have possessed knowledge maybe even maps and charts of the “new” continent – America.
A lot of this info was gleaned from Gateway to Atlantis by Andrew Collins which is the most plausible book that I have read on the subject.
DylanAugust 14, 2005 at 10:48 pm #7340
Is your “atlantean scientist-priest guide” a living/breathing person existing in this plane much like the rest of us, or some other being that you interact with through channeling, meditation, etc.?
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