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Back from retreat; communication with ant world

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 15 years, 4 months ago by adel.
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  • January 9, 2010 at 1:15 am #32925
    Steven
    Moderator

    Hello all,

    I just returned from my Winter Retreat.
    I sort of didn’t want to return quite when I did,
    as new insights into the self seemed to be unfolding
    daily, but all things must change.

    I didn’t get to explore as many practices as
    my original ambitious self intended, as many different
    layers of internal surprises seemed to present
    themselves causing numerous delays. However,
    in reality, the point to the practices is not the
    practices themselves but the growth and direction
    that the practices take you to that are the important
    thing, and on that end it was a success.

    I faced many internal demons along the way. Certain
    periods of time punctuated by vascillating between
    intense fear and intense loneliness–the shadow
    side of water and fire–that we tend to suppress
    in our everyday life in order to function. It’s only
    in the acknowledgment and acceptance of these things
    that change can begin to unfold. Of course, there were
    plenty of times of pure joy and happiness as well, but
    those tend not to be nearly as enlightening.

    I had an amazing instance during my retreat where I seemed
    to have the ability to communicate with the ant world–very
    fascinating! In the bathroom to my hermit cabin, there
    seemed to be a small family of ants living there. Every time
    I went into the bathroom, I’d see 2-3 ants crawling around
    on the bathroom sink. I smiled, but more or less ignored
    them. On day 9, I went into the bathroom and looked over
    at the couple of ants, and saw one of them crawling over the
    head of my toothbrush. I immediately grabbed my toothbrush,
    shook it, throwing the ant off of my toothbrush and into
    the wall of the sink’s basin. I then proceeded to talk
    loudly (but not scream) at the ant, who now seemed to
    be frozen in fear. To it, I said, “Hey! That’s my
    property and territory! You stay off of it. I don’t
    want to catch you crawling around on my property again.
    You see this toothbrush, and this hygiene bag? These
    are *mine*! You stay off of them, you hear me! You
    are not allowed on there. You can crawl around the sink
    all you like, but that stuff is off-limits! I’ll leave
    you alone in general, but if I catch you crawling around
    on my stuff here again, then I’ll *have* to kill you.
    Do you understand? I won’t be killing you. *You’ll* be
    killing you. You’ll be asking for suicide. You’ll
    in effect be asking me to end your life, and I don’t
    think that’s what you want. So you better stay away
    from that stuff, OK? Make sure you tell all your friends!!,
    because I mean business and you won’t get another warning!”

    Throughout this entire diatribe, the ant just stood there
    unmoving–as though it were in fear and/or taking in
    all of my words. I then finished calmly with “Good. Now
    we understand each other.” Then the ant preceded to
    cautiously move toward the sink drain hole at the top
    of the sink and crawled in to disappear.

    The amusing thing is that even though I saw 2-3 ants
    crawling around on that sink basin *every day* for
    the first 9 days, after that incident, I didn’t
    see A SINGLE ANT in that bathroom for the next 11, until
    the day before I was leaving!!! It was as if he knew
    exactly what I was saying!!

    The day before I left, I was back in the bathroom and
    was “sitting on the throne”. I saw my ant friends out
    scurrying about, and couldn’t help but smile. Continuously
    smiling, I looked down and saw an ant on the floor crawling
    toward my right foot. As he started getting close, I
    calmly and quietly spoke to the ant and said, “be careful
    now; remember our discussion” At which point, he immediately
    stopped in his tracks and turned the other way!! 🙂

    It was very weird, because it was like those ants could
    understand my comments perfectly without any kind of
    English-Ant translation dictionary. Very strange. I know
    it sounds nuts, but somehow they *understood*. Spooky.

    Steven

    January 9, 2010 at 1:50 pm #32926
    adel
    Participant

    Hello Steven,

    I was interested in your conversation with the ants.
    Did you feel as though it was possible because you
    had been able to be so quiet in retreat (not too much
    human interaction) to talk with them? Or maybe it was
    your sincerity in believing they would understand?

    I live in the tropics, ie mosquitoes
    everywhere. I’ve tried a bit to communicate with
    them but so far no luck. Your experience has given
    me a bit of hope to keep trying.

    Thanks for sharing,
    Adel

    January 9, 2010 at 7:00 pm #32928
    Steven
    Moderator

    Hi Adel,

    Honestly, I think at the time it was more a way to amuse myself.

    I thought to myself–for fun–I’m going to treat this ant
    as though it were an intelligent creature that could
    understand me, and I’m going to give it the same respect
    that I would another person–almost as if I were scolding
    a small child.

    The spooky thing is that the ant reacted and responded.

    Almost as if it decided that hey, if I were going to treat
    it with respect, that it was going to honestly listen and
    value what I had to say. It was strange because as I spoke,
    it just looked at me taking in my words as though there
    were no confusion in its mind about what I was saying.

    This amused me more, but then when it slowly crept away
    and I didn’t see any ants for the next 11 days–especially
    since I saw them constantly for the first 9 . . . I had to
    laugh to myself, and say “damn, that ant really *did*
    understand me; it wasn’t just my imagination!”

    Were it not for the strange subsequent response, I would
    have just dismissed it as fanciful delusion, but too many
    coincidences start to strain credibility of randomness . . .
    especially after I already had had that strange episode
    of communication with the local deer (see earlier retreat
    report).

    Good luck with the mosquitoes, but I have a feeling that
    since they already view you as a food source, you are
    going to have some difficulty getting respect. 🙂 🙂

    Cheers,
    Steven

    January 10, 2010 at 1:33 pm #32930
    adel
    Participant

    Hello Steven,

    Reading your reply I just realized that my wanting to stop
    mosquitoes from biting me goes against the natural cycle
    of the world. It is not a respect issue but that all life
    is equal in its right to live, eat, be eaten. If there is
    any respect to be demanded it should be from me giving
    thanks to the life of the tuna or tomato that I have taken.

    Thank you for waking me up, I need to work on my heart more
    make it bigger so that I can go beyond the little itchiness
    and be more Wa with life.

    Best wishes, many thanks
    Adel

    January 10, 2010 at 3:01 pm #32932
    Steven
    Moderator

    Each living creature here is trying to make its own way
    and do the best it can, given the constructs of its existence.

    You can’t get angry at the tiger that tried to maul you death,
    because–well–that’s what tigers do. It’s not the tiger’s fault.

    S

    January 11, 2010 at 4:46 am #32934
    zoose
    Participant

    I don’t think not wanting to get bitten is going against the natural cycle of the world. Nobody likes mosquitos and even horses swat away flies etc with their tails. Just get some natural vanilla essence insect repellent, or find a recipe on the net. Thats why the tai chi symbol doesn’t have a straight line seperating yin and yang. You can always find a way to wriggle yourself out of a problem 🙂

    January 11, 2010 at 2:16 pm #32936
    adel
    Participant
    January 11, 2010 at 2:18 pm #32938
    adel
    Participant
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