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November 29, 2010 at 9:19 am #35963cynaumonParticipant
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November 29, 2010 at 5:51 pm #35964RyanOParticipantGood old monotheism making its way onto a Taoist forum. Gotta love the irony haha 🙂
November 30, 2010 at 12:50 pm #35966ribosome777Participantthe problem is what monotheism REALLY means which is a bunch of hell bound idiocy
this is because of the Christians which took a “GOD” which
1) did not exist, his is Angle/Ingle crap
2) is greatest blasphemy of all timeand those such as the stupider of muslims which behave as flock
but of course the reason they are herded is because of the potentials (born of inherent stupidity) of things like Christianity
if you are too stupid to rationalize then you get herded, but you should never produce stupidity in yourself to be herded
they are two different things
really, the point is that if you don’t know then you don’t know, and then you have real issues of science and politics..
religions fit into that as a catch all term for policy, tradition, and spirituality
so instead which should talk about monotheistic traditions, spiritualities, and policies
but the point is that the Brahmin CAN be experienced in one degree or another…
if you have never had experience that the Brahmin is omnipotent, then there is no reason to claim that it is… its still the Brahmin
but that is largely metaphorical…
the other issue is its singularity..
but that one is important, because if the heart shien leads to primordial spirit, you may really be talking about the original creator… and if there is singularity and unity in a genuine experience of that, then you have to ask tough questions like whether that spirit is inside of all “humans”, whether it is in nature etc
these are REAL TAO topics…
but can you blame the Caliphates during times of war, knowing that they MUST do these things, if they were in touch with source, for declaring in one form or another the almightiness of universal purpose and will as they laid down necessary domination
miracles may just be possible as telekinetic events born of universal pressure and higher intelligence.. but they cannot defeat the purpose of human kinds testing of itself, which IS the way
but should you go whoring yourself for them?
weakness
these are all deep issues which come down to unity source distributing universal way
it’s all STAR WARS in the end…
seriously..
that is not a joke…
it is an epic see saw between necessary forces of light and dark across galaxies and worlds..
STAR WARS is the TAO
the original Rabb of the tribes of Yishrael has NOTHING to do with the God of the Europeans
the only thing they have is a distorted idea, with occasional contact of the Star Shien
the real mans life was apparently, IMHO, distorted into a myth which actually caught his genuine Soul
this letter is open addressed to anyone who would like to read it…
the real Jesus is the biggest fan of Dicken’s the Christmas Carol of all time, because that was the necessary message of high spirit to the tribes…
but that has nothing to do with the parallel streams of competition, lust, and war
November 30, 2010 at 12:53 pm #35968ribosome777Participantand what original spirit is…
December 1, 2010 at 5:22 pm #35970StevenModeratorHello Ryan,
Keep in mind, that all is Tao . . . so in particular, it is quite
easy to supplement Daoism with external insights from other
paths that feel appropriate from individual to individual.
In particular, Mantak Chia is both a Daoist and a Christian.So, in particular, with relation to this video series on
psychological help vis-a-vis Christianity/Bible teachings,
if people feel that their lives have been genuinely changed for
the better as a result of the program, why upset the
apple cart and pour vinegar on it?Even if Daoism is the most on-point, one should be mindful
and respectful of all views, in my opinion.Example: ribosome777, our forum Islamic-Daoist, is quite
passionate about his path. While I don’t feel much
connection to Islam, I still respect his beliefs and am
happy for his joy in it.That’s not to say you can’t disagree with people and argue
over philosophical points, but you should address specific
ideas, rather than appeal to ridicule.S
December 1, 2010 at 10:55 pm #35972ribosome777Participantbut Mantak is NOT the Bible Belt
no, those are two different things
December 2, 2010 at 12:30 am #35974RyanOParticipantHey Steven,
Good and interesting points. I do think respect is important. I just thought it was sort of ironic that there was a Quran post immediately followed by a Bible post (which was this person’s first post, linked to a pay site, so it could be considered spam).
Additionally, the difficulty I have with organized religions is the inherent divisiveness of it. So someone might be healed by this bible teaching, for instance, and consequently think this verifies the religion. Then one begins to label themselves ‘Christian’ and attempt to evangelize, much like our Islamic friend here.
Such religious labels create barriers between human beings and are counter to the universal oneness of humanity. Thus I believe while people are worthy of respect, religious beliefs should be criticized when appropriate.
Admittedly, it is difficult to be diplomatic for both sides when the topic is religion. Perhaps you’re goal of addressing specific ideas is the way to go.
December 2, 2010 at 1:13 am #35976ribosome777ParticipantDecember 2, 2010 at 1:14 am #35978ribosome777ParticipantDecember 2, 2010 at 2:02 pm #35980RyanOParticipantHuh oh starting to get political! Wasn’t trying to go there. You’re right, but shouldn’t union and harmony be a goal?
Seems to me that all religious groups do is exacerbate the problem by further splitting people into tribal-ish mentalities.
December 3, 2010 at 2:29 am #35982c_howdyParticipantWell, in my opinion one doesn’t necessarily need any religion from outside.
But this comes real question in certain situations.
In Old testament you have Moses and his burning bush, in New Testament Holy Spirit descents on Jesus during his Babtism in River Jordan (in Urantia Book it’s of course the Thought Adjuster), Prophet Muhammad started to hear inner voices and al Quran started to come into existence, and Joseph Smith, Jr, also got his spiritual experiences etc.
Why should anybody take somebody else’s religion?
For me it seems that it’s mostly certain entities which want to have a herd and don’t also want really contribute themselves.
Who is willing to be a channel for something like this? Or is able? Or is the chosen one?
Also in our present times one should be also prepared to be very much ridiculed for trying to be a prophet.
HOWDY
December 3, 2010 at 4:57 am #35984c_howdyParticipantDecember 5, 2010 at 4:32 pm #35986ribosome777ParticipantDecember 7, 2010 at 2:27 am #35988c_howdyParticipantVARIOUS COSMOLOGIES
I bought something like one month ago from Academic Bookstore, which is the biggest bookstore in Finland situated just in the center of Helsinki, Oxford Companion to Cosmology written by Andrew Liddle & Jon Loveday.
Beside physical cosmology they surprisingly had included to their cosmology entry also metaphysical cosmology, religious and esoteric cosmology.
Also English wikipedia article has this kind of approach.
For me NEIDAN or NEIKUNG practitioner should take care not to make fool of oneself or actually as far as possible hide the religious part of the practice.
There is the first step to the black art/necromancy, well as I see it.
Anyway as far as I see myself I could well keep this short Oxford cosmology encyclopedia as a kind of bible, on the other hand some older (religious) texts would be someway silly alternatives.
HOWDY
PS. Sorry for my broken English.
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