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April 18, 2005 at 2:06 am #4659jsritParticipant
The book Spiritual Qi Gong by David Twicken teaches how to breath along the 8 extraordinary meridians.
Master Chia takes a different approach, I beleive? What about Winn?
What are the benefits and drawbacks of the different ways the breath in these meditations?
April 18, 2005 at 3:46 pm #4660The NothingnessParticipantApril 18, 2005 at 3:53 pm #4662The NothingnessParticipantDrawbacks are that the energy just wont move in the most
maximising way.April 18, 2005 at 7:23 pm #4664baguaParticipantHello jsrit:
The methods I presented are very safe, this was one of my goals. Having practiced Chinese Medicine for a some years it is clear some methods can be unhealthy and I avoided them in the book, and I do not think they add much anyway.
There is no one right way to do these practices, I believe if you know what the goal is then there are many ways to accomplish it. Also, when the channels are flowing well one does not need to do these practices as much, one can do less and less and just sit. The goal of much of the practices in my view is to learn to relax, circulate the Qi that resides in your body and then take more Qi in from around us, the more one relaxes this happens automatically. This is all about emotional health, physical health and vitality. The rest is a liftime of letting go of what has been artifically created to reveal what has always existed. So we float in and out of that experience, hopefully as we cultivate we can stay there more and more each day.
After studying Taoist Alchemy, Chinese Medicine, Feng Shui and Chinese Astrology it is clear to me so many take the Taoist literature to literal, just my opinion. I suggest reading some of Cleary’s book by Li I-Ming, very revealing, explains a view of what many taoist terms and stated mean.
If we follow the guidance of Lao Tzu the path of alchemy becomes clearer , I suggest any practice you do should fit with the guidance of the Tao Teh Ching.
It is my experience the basic things are the hardest things to incorporate into one’s life; relaxing, emotional balance, physical health, this is the real acheivement that many so called highl level people dont have.
I have always beleived some of the Taoists systems become like a competition, to rush to complete each course, let me share something, many of the people around for 20 years ore more end of going back to the basics, everything is really there.
regards,
davidApril 20, 2005 at 11:21 am #4666JernejParticipantMy respect.
I have seen your dissertation.
And passion.April 23, 2005 at 8:58 pm #4668jsritParticipant(however obvious)
THANKS!
April 23, 2005 at 9:02 pm #4670jsritParticipantCan I see the dissertation too?
A couple more questions: Did Master Chia fully support this book?
Also have any studies been done with it? I would like to see a study done with it!!
What if you produced a companion CD for listening meditation, so we can get the “jing” according to Winn’s theory that the audio resonates much better than text.
REGARDS!
May 3, 2005 at 8:53 am #4672JernejParticipantDavid Twicken
Eight Extraordinary Channels
from amazon site:
“Taoist Cosmology and the classic Eight Extraordinary Channel”‘Chinese Medicine is based on a cosmological understanding of life. Ancient Taoists developed systems of communication that reveal profound relationships between Heaven, Humanity and Earth. These ancient communication tools include the Luo Shu Nine Palaces, He Tu, Early and Later Heaven Ba Gua and I Ching; these tools are the foundation of the Eight Branches of Tao and Chinese Culture. A deep understanding of these Taoist tools is a key to unlock mysteries of the Taoist Arts.
This book presents theories revealing and explaining mysteries of Acupuncture. Initiated by Dou Han Qing in the Yuan Dynasty, the legendary Xu Feng in the Ming Dynasty made three unique contributions: each of the Eight Extraordinary channels have unique pairings, each channel has a command or master point and each of them corresponds with one of the eight trigrams. Xu Feng did not present a theory supporting these correspondences. For almost one thousand years the theory supporting these three contributions has been unknown to the public. This book is my original work explaining those relationships based on Taoist theories and cosmological models, which include the Luo Shu, He Tu, Early-Later Heaven Ba Gua and Taoist internal alchemy.’
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