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  • This topic has 9 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 13 years, 11 months ago by adel.
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  • June 4, 2011 at 2:02 pm #37464
    adel
    Participant

    I have been practicing
    bone breathing in the
    ocean lately. Standing in
    neck deep or just floating
    up and looking at the sky.
    I have a lot of resistance
    to breathing air so this
    breathing in of water is
    so much easier. Recently
    I have taken a lot of my
    practices into the sea,
    the deep healing is especially
    good there. Yesterday I had
    pelicans and birds diving
    all around me, fish nibbling
    on my heels, and my favorite
    of all, a little turtle swim
    by me. Sometimes I feel so
    calm underwater that I
    dont need to breathe at all,
    I can breathe in the water…
    sounds weird.

    I had taken a break from the
    fusion and gone back to doing
    the orbit prac, bone breathing,
    tendon stretching, and other
    fund practices. I am starting
    to feel strong enough to continue
    with the fusion again. I had come
    to a point where I realized how
    so many people (close family too)
    were not really looking at me for
    me but were communicating with me
    thru their own emotional feelings
    that had little to do with me.
    I realized that I had been deceiving
    myself in thinking that people loved
    me and had my best in their hearts,
    it was quite shattering to see the
    truth and I had to step away from
    the fusion until I felt strong
    enough to be alone and for it to
    be enough just for me myself alone
    to love me. sorry to jabber….

    Best to all,
    Adel

    June 4, 2011 at 3:49 pm #37465
    millet
    Participant

    Hi adel,

    If you permit, I will just give you my two cents about your important and genuine realization.
    Indeed, people most of the time love others thought their own emotional projections. Please don’t jump to conclusions: you may include yourself into these people (do *you* really love people in another way than through emotional projections?), and this is part of life’s process until you discover it and question it which you do.Everyone love others and even oneself through projection. Love without projection (or the most sane ones) comes after a lot of work which you seem to have the courage to undertake.
    I would not question the love people have for you even if it is through projections because they won’t do it differently until they can, and until they see that these projections act as a barrier for real love between them and you.
    Keep up the good work, be *patient* and *loving* with you and them. The work you do on/with yourself will have some effects on them one way or another.
    take care,
    millet

    June 5, 2011 at 1:55 am #37467
    user244075
    Participant

    Thanks for sharing your experience. I haven’t practiced ocean breathing yet in the ocean, have you tried it?

    June 5, 2011 at 1:18 pm #37469
    adel
    Participant

    It takes a bit of time to get on
    the same cycle as the movement
    of the current and waves, but if
    you can really become passive and let
    the sea breathe for you, it feels
    as if it could go on forever.

    Adel

    June 5, 2011 at 1:27 pm #37471
    adel
    Participant

    yes, there is no getting away from projections. But I think what
    hit me was it being my mother using me in the same ways since
    I was a child. Where I had always taken it as being my fault, this
    time I could see the manipulations (the same since childhood) being
    taken to protect herself at her child’s expense. A lot has to do
    with me living in Asia so long with a child and family come first
    value but also the fusion practice has really brought out some deep
    truths that I had been unable to express previously.

    Thanks millet,
    Adel

    June 8, 2011 at 12:10 pm #37473
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>I have been practicing
    >>>bone breathing in the
    >>>ocean lately. Standing in
    >>>neck deep or just floating
    >>>up and looking at the sky.

    Sounds marvelous. 😉

    >>>I have a lot of resistance
    >>>to breathing air so this
    >>>breathing in of water is
    >>>so much easier.

    I’d encourage you to explore
    deeper this “resistance to
    breathing air”. I think
    there are probably some issues
    behind this that are worth
    exploring . . . getting in
    touch deeper with your lung spirit.
    I suspect metal-wood tension.

    >>>Sometimes I feel so
    >>>calm underwater that I
    >>>dont need to breathe at all,
    >>>I can breathe in the water…
    >>>sounds weird.

    Not weird at all.
    I’ve experienced this myself.

    >>>I had come
    >>>to a point where I realized how
    >>>so many people (close family too)
    >>>were not really looking at me for
    >>>me but were communicating with me
    >>>thru their own emotional feelings
    >>>that had little to do with me.
    >>>I realized that I had been deceiving
    >>>myself in thinking that people loved
    >>>me and had my best in their hearts,
    >>>it was quite shattering to see the
    >>>truth and I had to step away from
    >>>the fusion until I felt strong
    >>>enough to be alone and for it to
    >>>be enough just for me myself alone
    >>>to love me.

    Practice is often about gaining deeper
    insight into yourself and to see patterns
    of behavior you didn’t observe before.
    This new awareness can be shocking, and
    can cause a new alignment in your thinking.
    It can be hard.

    At the same time, it often becomes clear that
    these patterns were always there and on some
    subconscious level, you were always aware of
    them, but now you are forced to face it directly.

    >>>sorry to jabber….

    actually, it’s great to hear your sharings . . .

    My best to your practice,
    Steven

    June 9, 2011 at 11:03 pm #37475
    Michael Winn
    Keymaster

    Adel,
    I spend 7 weeks every winter in the Caribbean, and try almost all my internal practices out in the ocean. Too many to enumerate here. But you can “breathe” any element directly, not just water.
    enjoy
    michael

    June 12, 2011 at 2:01 pm #37477
    adel
    Participant

    Thanks for your insights, Steven.

    ..I’d encourage you to explore
    .. deeper this “resistance to
    ..breathing air”. I think
    ..there are probably some issues
    ..behind this that are worth
    ..exploring . . . getting in
    ..touch deeper with your lung spirit.
    ..I suspect metal-wood tension.

    This advice is most interesting to me, I
    actually have started working a little more
    with Po than I had previously been able to.
    All of the movements become very tight and
    restricted but I know I have to continue. In
    contrast I have a very loving feeling for
    Hun. When I dance with Hun, it is fluid and
    comfortable, we can speak truths to each
    other. I feel a deep love for Hun and I feel
    I need to hide from Po. ahhhhhhhhh

    ..At the same time, it often becomes clear that
    ..these patterns were always there and on some
    ..subconscious level, you were always aware of
    ..them, but now you are forced to face it directly.

    You are right, I always instinctively know the
    truth and act as if I don’t…then when it comes
    out I wallow in the pain, playing the victim.
    Not the kind of person that I want to be.
    Many thanks for the wake up.

    Best to all of you, wish I were at a retreat
    this year… hopefully next summer.
    Adel

    June 12, 2011 at 10:09 pm #37479
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>This advice is most interesting to me, I
    >>>actually have started working a little more
    >>>with Po than I had previously been able to.
    >>>All of the movements become very tight and
    >>>restricted but I know I have to continue. In
    >>>contrast I have a very loving feeling for
    >>>Hun. When I dance with Hun, it is fluid and
    >>>comfortable, we can speak truths to each
    >>>other. I feel a deep love for Hun and I feel
    >>>I need to hide from Po. ahhhhhhhhh

    Which movements are you doing?

    S

    June 16, 2011 at 1:58 pm #37481
    adel
    Participant

    The movements I do to with Po
    are:I start out with a total
    skin brushing (using a brush
    made of white horse hair), then
    breathe white thru my skin.
    Once skin feels open I then go
    on to clearing out with the Lung
    healing sound movement whereupon
    I start to tense up so I go on to
    the part of fund 2 breathing chi
    kung where I cross my hands over
    the middle channel and bring the
    white pearl up and down, passing
    it thru the diaphram while focusing
    on the softening of the movements.

    Then I will do bone breathing, etc..
    until I work up to the fusion. During
    fusion, when I look down to the the
    water pearl I often see the white
    pearl sharing the same space. I don’t
    quite understand why yet, but I think
    the more fusion I do the more I will
    be able to feel and see po.

    It is funny, I never even thought
    about my liver until I starting doing
    Michael’s dvd. And then it was like
    meeting a long lost lover. When I
    sit in with Hun, I feel as if I am
    in a Shrine made of beautiful wood,
    totally open to the deep green of
    the surrounding mossy garden. A place
    where anyone can come for refuge yet
    Hun does not have to actively do any-
    thing, just be there. After times that
    I am angry, I feel a huge respect for
    Hun for being so honest and strong.
    As for po, I’ll have moments of connection
    but they are fleeting. Sometimes I think
    if I could just cry all day it would
    clear up but even crying doesn’t help,
    it just feels stuck.

    Thanks for listening,
    Adel

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