May 7, 2009 at 11:27 am #31454
I have somehow a technical question over here.
Please if you answer, be so kind to specify your experience, and if you are in instructor yourself. I am an instructor and I need some extra nformations.
For a women, in her thirties (32), who has a form of benign breast cancer in one breast. Can are the possible effects of practice. In particular, would breast massage help or hinder.
We use to say that practicing with sexual energy is not good when you have cancer, because sexuale energy can increase the energy that finds (in this case the sick energy).
This person has a lot of sexual energy, and is somehow not living out her sexuality as much as she naturally would. (Her partner lives far away).
I have been asked to help her, but I am a bit on a loss. Usually we do not suggest to work with sexual energy to people who have cancer to avoid making the situation worse. But it is also well known among the HT people that lack of sexual activity can raise the probability of cancer (rates of cancer among nuns is higher).
She has no meditation background whatsoever. So I was going to suggest her to just massage herself. Maybe massage her breast. Not mention any sexual energy work. And just do some light inner smile and deep breathing. I know this will not cure cancer, but if the cause of the cancer is in the fact that she is not having enough sex, this can help.
Oh yes, to make things harder, she is a scientist. She will try things out, but if I mention channeling any colored energy from heaven she wil probably run out of the room screaming 😉
Thanks for any suggestion,
PietroMay 7, 2009 at 11:54 am #31455
I have been a practioner in the system since the year 2000.
This seems not to be an easy question. In general the cancer gets worse when you increase the energy, people with alot of energy will have higher risks to get cancer and are more likely to die in cancer.
My intuition says that you should not increase any sexual energy if a person have cancer. It seems to be much better to work on emotional issues. If she are a beginner I think the inner smile is wounderful and also migth help her with fear and other emotional problems associated with cancer. The inner smile propably also will increase the coherence in the system and then also hopefully add some power in the body that works for the positive and work against the negative=cancer.
That sexual frustration can have an effect of being a cause to cancer might be true. But the risk of increasing any sexual energy in the woman seems wery risky to me. If the sexual frustration was the cause it was probably also associated with some bad emotions that together did cause the cancer.
Increasing sexual energy will increase ewerything going on in the woman and so also the increase and growth of the cancer. The solution most lie in the direction of increasing ballance in the system. Increasing the positive emotions. Some way of dealing with the negative emotions. In trust in the future. In trust in the healing process. Let go of fear, negativity and controll of the situation.
So even thogh you might now alot more about this then I do, I will strongly warne you against working with sexual energy in this situation.
I hope others will add to this beacase it is a realy serious qustion you have.
S DMay 7, 2009 at 3:53 pm #31457
The information you give is not much on her personality other than she has a lot of sexual energy and she is a scientist. I like a name to work with.
Since there is no do or don’t really in my humble opinion, since every person is unique I never generalize or use the main stream idea but connect with the person.
Anyways since there is not much information, yet in this particular case I sense enough from her to suggest the following: … and don’t freak out please:
It would be extremely beneficial for her to have her breasts massaged by a man, by her own lover, if the relationship is loving and caring, if not, than by a warm hearted therapist who can get the energy in her breasts to flow. It is not about raising her lust or to focus on sexual arousal as such, but to get her breast tissue and energy moving. Use oil with rose and/or bergamot and/or chamomille essential oil or just the essential oils in the room. Especially for her the chamomille is an interesting oil it seems.
Very gentle strokes, no hard massage, but circles and strokes, she can guide it herself with inner smile to the heart, and of course it might open up some deeper emotions.
If a man is too difficult because of shame, a woman can do it, but I strongly suggest a man in this case.
The therapist can use green or blue using Cosmic healing practice or alike to start with, she does not need to know that.
This is a general sense of what I get from what you say about her.May 7, 2009 at 6:25 pm #31459
I personally show people as much as I can or they allow, then let them decide what to use. Learned that from Michael. Start with inner smile and work your way from there. But this is different then being trained to read pulses and doing healing work, which is using your own cultivated energy to open channels, as well as tailoring herbal remedies. I plan to do both one day.
P.S. If she runs out of the room, and you have done your best to show her the practices, then that is her deal, best not to try to get into manipulation and prediction and just hold to your integrity. Do the practices work? If yes then teach them with confidence and have compassion for those that run from them.
Hope that helps, and let me know if you become popular for giving breast massages to prevent cancer. Talk about healing hands. Reminds me of doctors that used to give women orgasms as treatment back in the day. There hands and arms got tired so they invented vibrators. 🙂May 9, 2009 at 8:51 am #31461
Hello Paolino Luna
Reread Pietros post, it looks like you have missunderstood it!
S DMay 9, 2009 at 12:10 pm #31463
SD, Paolino knows that very well.
But his advice is one I support, since I am also having a naturopathic background, these are the basics to apply on cancer, so surely something that can be added in the mix of therapies she can use.
The advice of cold and hot water is nothing less or more than the reason why I suggest the breastmassage, getting the tissue to move.
These are very good naturopathic tips, YET the issue here is what this woman NEEDS in particular with her illness. It is about the deeper issues she is dealing with.
It sounds that Paolino is stuck in the sexual arena, there is more to sexual energy than his drooling mind is creating.
As for the fact you can not touch a sick person because you will get it yourself, that is a fear based attitude. That might be true if you are trying to ‘remove’ the illness using your own energy, which might be an ego trip/ karmic burden you bring on yourself or if you are working on a daily basis with sick people and don’t take care of your own energy. I know of Eastern healers who do not want to touch sick people, but I believe in the power of the heart and love.
As long that is part of what you are doing there is neverending power available, so why fear sickness?
I worked and work in hospitals with lots of sick people, the times I felt bad are the moments where I loose compassion, THAT is the problem. And that is why I left my job as a nurse because I lost compassion because of the work pressure and the narrow minded mentality. Every so often I take term jobs as a nurse and every time they ask me if I want to stay permanently and every time I say no, because I know where it will go if I commit to a permanent job like that, in an environment like that. I need space and a big chunk of freedom to be myself, from that space I can give abundantly with joy and compassion.
It does happen that the sick energy of a person is too overwhelming, that is when you need to retreat and respect your own boundaries, some people are not to be helped for some reason and you should listen to the signals and retreat for your own protection.
Being sick or weak yourself is never ever a good idea to help or heal other people. And sometimes the ‘ghosts’ of some people are stronger than your strength, in that case, retreat.May 10, 2009 at 2:40 am #31465May 15, 2009 at 7:38 am #31467
Thank you for your POSITIVE contribution, unfortunately the link has a Trojan Horse virus attached to it. So better not to open it.May 15, 2009 at 10:06 am #31469
Hello P L
Why do you behave so angrily at this forum? Whats your problem?
SDMay 16, 2009 at 2:40 am #31471
Norton lists the link as safe, plus I just visited the site personally and then ran a full system scan and it came up clean. So just exercise your normal everyday caution, Mam, and you’ll probably be all right.
This post is addressed to everyone…
Historically, some have found Paolino Luna’s insights hard to take because, whether or not you agree with him and whatever you think of his style of communication, he’s got an undeniable heavy-weight talent for putting the rip in riposte. Just ask shenchi.
For example, when in another post Paolino Luna called shenchi a
“jockstrap sniffin, soap-dropping, cattle-groping, shit-sniffing, ass-munching, puss-chewing, butt-faced sausage jockey”
he didn’t necessarily mean that shenchi was literally a
“jockstrap sniffin, soap-dropping, cattle-groping, shit-sniffing, ass-munching, puss-chewing, butt-faced sausage jockey”
he was just expressing himself in his own inimitable fashion. The two of them were having a discussion and probably the way “… butt-faced sausage jockey” sounded trailing after shenchi’s name brought a smile to his face. I know it brought one to mine (and maybe yours too if you’ll admitt it).
And I’m sure shenchi has learned the valuable lesson of never posting his email on an open forum and I know that I won’t ever make that mistake now either. So thank you Paolino Luna!
Senschi: some unscupulous masters would charge you thousands of euros for that learning so you owe PL a big one too. Indeed, the fact that we can receive an education like this for free on the Internet is one of the reasons that good literature doesn’t make money anymore if it ever did but I digress.
The truth is that Paolino Luna is a classic and a force of nature and deep down he’s most always making a point worthy of consideration whether or not you agree with him personally so one way or another we’re all enriched by his presence most of the time and that’s about the best you can say of anyone. In fact Paolino Luna is worthy of much more than a single run-on sentence of praise but enough.
Plato your products must rock because everywhere I go, people ask if I’m ‘that’ J Lowry. I’m not but I appreciate the buzz.
JowellsMay 16, 2009 at 5:34 am #31473
My Avast Virus scanner did gave me all the warnings of a Trojan Horse, so I was not suggesting that Paolino did put this one on purpose. I SAY my AVAST scanner found that virus. Nothing more or less, what you do with it is totally your own choice… I am not your babysitter, I just have a sense of community support.
As for Paolino! I have always recognized his deeper wisdom, so I would not accuse him of putting a virus on purpose as some might think here. I have a sense of
respect and I know he has it too in his own particular way.
So stop looking for ghosts!May 17, 2009 at 4:42 am #31475
pua is an independent master
a ht instructor has a master.
there might be a conflict there,
but in itself
why would a pua supplicate.
that is a conflict of identities.
it is also an invitation to who do not enter uninvated.
and touching is a good enough means.
it takes one slip into weakness.
but then who is never ever weak.
if she is a scientist and an empiricist
then there is the question why would someone restrain her from
experience of stabbings and irridiation of modern othodox medicine that
is in social states being paid by the state with mandatory taxes.
reports make contribution to the growing knowledge of such practises.
an interesting double lock.
if she is a modern female human
she is probably entangled in contraception,
a process of abortive manifestation.
if she wants children and continually dwarfs it manifestation process
by mechanical interjections or chemical poisoning or more crude mechanical means
such process is still a creation
but a dwarfed one
and so are its results.
societaly it produces feminism.
and also individual characterisation.
and if in mind, so in body,
such processing may produce aberration in the body.
women sometimes engage in relationships
that should she endure in them would not result in fulfilment of her virtues.
but still they do it.
either projecting introvertally trying to supress themselves
or externaly and trying to supress the other.
but one cannot eat bitter indefinately, so a self rejects and emotional instability of relationship ensues. it she keeps at it it is selfhurt
if she tries to establish control over the other
and fails, she may still keep going (at it),
but getting more and more mad inside.
hence weird mind. and weird body.May 17, 2009 at 4:31 pm #31477
That is a gross over simplification. You would do well to explain your self.May 17, 2009 at 11:15 pm #31479
“There are many traditional / classical Daoism practicing techniques are proved to cure the breast cancer.”
Are you a licensed our authorized healtcare practitioner? That is such an incredible statement, a proved cure for breast cancer, can you sure this proof?
baguaMay 20, 2009 at 7:44 pm #31481
He’s got seriously repressed violent homosexual tendencies. I gave him my e-mail so we could work things out like men, off the site, and he sent me nothing but violent gay porn from a fake address. Probably from his private collection. If he just came out he’d probably be a much happier person and not attack everyone on here. Don’t you agree?
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