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April 24, 2006 at 2:39 pm #13236DogParticipant
I my first issue with capitalist Starts with its very nature. It is a system that allocates scarce resources to unlimited wants and needs. Some might say “well yeah we need a system to do that”. Do we? First off I do not think we have unlimited needs. I think there have different needs for different parts of our self. The problem arises when apart of your self like the mind trys to find fulfillment through bodily means. It finds it self never finding fulfillment. So arises these unlimited wants. What is not good is that your body is usauly harmed and miss treated in the processes. So you have a process that is created to allocate our natural resources to something that will never find satisfaction from them. Congratulations you just gave the nut house control.
Ok I will let that sit. See you next time. Just remember the seven o’clock show is different from the ten o’clock show. Go night and good luck.April 25, 2006 at 10:14 pm #13237DogParticipantTo continue where I left off. If you try to satify something that is unlimited with something that is finite you will never satisfy it. Thats a no brainer right. Well most still think they are satisfy the body. Have you ever eaten a big meal and then watched some tv and a commercial comes on showing you flashes of good food and you say ” man I am still a little hungry”. So you might over eat at the expense of your body, or on a larger scale at the exspense of the world. The world and the body are not honored by the nature of the capitalism.
You would have a much differnt system if your intentions where to create a system that allocates natural resources to (FILL IN THE BLANCK). I thought it would be fun to see what people come up with.
Enterprising men and weman some conscious of what they where doing some not. Figured out that the money is in the mind, and if the the money is in the mind how can I influence it. There is a great influence book and cds by Robert B. Cialdini it will give you an inside look at how sales man use your fears and lack of self acceptance against you. It will also just show you some interesting habits humans have. He does not go into any real nasty influences tactics that you will see out there in the world. I think the book is a real eye opener.
So the next fundamental of our capitalist system is that of liberty. I discuss my thoughts on liberty. I will also try to show how we have be sold on self-interest.
This has been a dog production all names where changed to protect the innocent.:)
April 27, 2006 at 3:17 pm #13239JernejParticipantit is of interest to study the roman law
the early roman social structure:
5% of humans: citizens of the state: the collective body of state
95%of humans: working property of citizens
democratic form of republic
magistrates: full power of discretionthe late roman social structure:
rapid increase in the number of citizens
sloweth growth of working humans
authocratic form of republic (or imperium)
magistrates: bound to rule of lawso more citizens, the subjects of the state meant more authocratic republic
and denial of rule of heart (=discretion)rule of law
claims that process is impartial
with impotentate administrators
and obsession with formyet in its essence holds two most dear values:
1. protection of land property
(total occupation of land: occupation is the only original form of land aquisition)
2. protection of human property
(human property of the state versus human property of citizens:
gentlemen can duel for honor, slaves cannot for such act would be damaging the property of citizens)
(human property is below land property: you can shoot transpassers who has no intent to harm your person, while such killerless person is not entitled to the right of selfdefense of his life against such attempt on him)such virtues hold true on last tree cycles of civilization of europe and its collonies.
capitalism is just on passing cycle.
so work hard and give the society a decent day’s work (=feed her).
break your balls and never stop.April 28, 2006 at 2:12 am #13241DogParticipantThe romans had to regulating systems like we do today. Sometimes the two where a economy/republic, and other times a economy/monarchy. They where never successful at just having one. Neither the republic or the monarchy could be used by the people to obtain food, shelter, water, protection. Alot of the time protaction was bought. Have you ever heard of mafia guys getting paid for protection. The economy has always looked at goverments as lesser entities. From the birth of specialization and the rise of trade it has its roots in the very nature of private property. It looks at goverments and says “I am the true power. You have never replaced of me, and you never will, I helped man to feed him self, to cloth him self, I helped man to acheive there dreams and desires, you are often just a tool of the economy. What could some goverments say but” your right I am often the structure used by the poeple in power to stay in power, and to suck dry the masses keeping them like rats fighting over scraps. Now there is a goverment on earth right now that could replace it. To bad it is dying slowly being picked apart from people who believe that it is a limmiting factor on there economic growth.
I will be getting into law a little later in my posts.
Unless poeple wish me to stop posting.April 28, 2006 at 9:28 am #13243JernejParticipantCalling oneself dog and being hesitant toward the peopled humans is contradiction.
Sure the people entity is strong and extremely dangerous. Remember Reich. So caution is very in place.
But the peopled humans are food for embodiement of a powerhouse usually called civilization. Tough god.The people is a collective and is controlled by governmental/societal structure.
Administrators are not really controlling, are more the handlers of the peopled humans by means of being a constant embodied transmitter of the people entity.
Very traditional way.Thus there are two types of peoled humans: the handlers and the body (sometimes referred to as food).
My I always saw the property as a negative right protected by a killer intent.
You have the right of owner to prevent a being from being here.
You have the unlimited right to be here. (this goes for the right of government, the servants of government gave limited use of course).
And ‘you own nothing that you are not prepared to die for’
or kill for.
the killer intent the cha chi the sakki being the essence of the will to occupy.
project sakki to tame the earthbound.
project sakki to control the earthbound.
project sakki to control the earth.
very strond implant.Thus peopled humans will never be helped by the societal structure.
It will exhaust them to the end and also burden them with the solution of survival.
Always denying individual humans their integrity and individiality and their worth
all the while being fully dependand on their service/serving/being serves.
And it will never let go.My I sees the societal structure as spidereyed. Many facets of same pole.
One kill/protect the food people, other create arms/create means for peopled survival. So you are correct in being twotiered civilization.
But doubt that economy had the upper hand. It was war. The dicators were too mad killing intent projectors and so were allowed in only on special occasions, the consuls the moderate killers, while the man of money were masters of illusion of life.The metal has sharp edge of a killer or the depression of the peopled.
Metal bound civilization.
Capitalism sees opposite of growth as ‘depression’. The metal duality.You believe in earth bound civilization.
Time will show your tale.I was once observing a picture of a woman with eyes who painted a peasant family.
I have been wondering for a long time how people who worked less the today peoples, lived in unpulluted air, unpoisoned food (outside cities) and aboundance of wild life would perish in three or four decades to oblivion.
Until I remember the tendon line collection of museum. Ich wide skin strapes.
The civilization was very present.April 28, 2006 at 2:55 pm #13245DogParticipant“Calling oneself dog and being hesitant toward the peopled humans is contradiction.”
I do not know if english is your second language. The term peopled humans would be wierd to us in a conversation in english. It is not common in fact I have never heard some one us it before. I understand poetic licence but if you could give me some respect and tone it down I think then we could get deeper into the conversation. When poeple do not make an effort to communicate to there audience in a language they understand it seems self centered, rude, and ego stroking.
As far as picking the name Dog. I was born on a dog year, it is a dog year, and I felt like barking.
May 1, 2006 at 2:37 pm #13247JernejParticipantThe only real way of language absorbtion is through context.
But then the context also defines you.
Some linguists say that 70% of all one say in lingua is defined by the form/grammar.
Very rigid.
As such should not be bowed to when inappropriate.
Linguists are honest: ‘do your way of speak for 100 years and we will call it the norm’.So:
People is collective entity.
Human is individual entity.
Humans are many individual entities.
They have free will to connect to any causation.
A web of connections to single causation forms a collective.
A group.Many collectives. Many groups.
There is one that is especially resilliant.
It is commonly referred to as ‘the people’ within the social order of republic.
It is signified by verocious suppressive inclination.Thus the peopled humans.
Not the people.
Some call them the sheeple, but that is also not honouring the individual responsibility and freedom.
so you see
The newspeak of english does not allow such clarity.May 2, 2006 at 2:17 am #13249DogParticipantI think you think I am hesitant to place responsibility on humanity for our own institutions. In fact my hole goal is to mirror back to people how your ancestors agreaments and chooses, and our agreaments and chooses effect the world for our childeren and grand childeren. If you have questions on this I will be happy to clarify.
Private property is at the heart of economies. You are right to piont out that private property is at the root of alot of societies ugliness, home less poeple is a big one of thoses. But how do you get around private property with out steping over peoples liberties. In an economy based system you can not. Thus economist get a big sword to wield called liberty. Why am I not free to to polute if I can pay for it? Why can I not hire immigrants if it’s a competive market? Why are you infringing on my liberty. Tax me fine but do not tell me no. You can take the whole arguement away by just taking the economy away. I will go more into this later in my writing if people wish.
“Thus peopled humans will never be helped by the societal structure.”
Thats like saying growing up in a loving family does not make a difference. I honnur internal work, I do alot of it. But I live in this world I have alot of loved ones in this world. My job is not done till I have done my best to bring peace to my self, to others, to this world.
“You believe in earth bound civilization.
Time will show your tale.”What other civilizations needs our attention I live here on earth? I choose to do work on earth. Where do you want to be? Why are you here?
I will cose with this. Goverments do have the power of the sword, but it is principals of economics and of the private sector that guide its hand these days. It is rarely giuded by the principles of the Federal Republic and the public sector.
May 8, 2006 at 11:10 am #13251JernejParticipantA vampire never enters a house unless invited. He is skilled.
Remember that tha goal of alchemy is to tranform the metal into gold,
a metal transmutation
not a earth transmutation.May 15, 2006 at 3:57 pm #13253DogParticipantI understand the world has its own thing going on if thats what you mean. My goal was to gauge to see where the toaist community is at. If you are a grounded person and you travel to india, I can not see how you could not see something very wrong and want to help. The bullshit with the cast system, and polution. The same can be said for china I do not care how holy you say you are or how much wieght you can lift with your genetals. Show me compassion. Will you let your childeren burn in the fires of industry. Look around cancer is increasing, poeple are suffering from polution, hunger. I am not saying every one needs to be politically active. Every one has there special gifts. What level of abuse will to tolerate for your self and your loved ones? The more cultivation I have done the less tolerance for abuse I have. I hunger for the simple life. I want to see my loved ones health and beautiful. So why not help make an enviroment that supports that.
May 18, 2006 at 10:07 am #13255JernejParticipanti see
i feel
it is tearing me apartyet i do not have to do any thing
by the law of resonance
if you do not resonate with suffering, yet you do not block it
if a sufferer contacts you
he will grasp for more
yet find noreso then will know
and let gothat
May 18, 2006 at 12:43 pm #13257DogParticipantYes resonance is powerful, great tool for change. Teach, write, play music, be a lawyer. Be beautiful for us. If you mean by doing nothing, that you simply be. I can git down with that. But I find there to be another intent behind some who wish to meditate it all away. I know my writing is not the best. I am a musician so it is easier to exspress my self through my heart and sound. But I think you get what I have been trying to feel out. At least I am not as bad as Jimi Hendrix. That Brother had Feeling but when it came to speaking, it was just not his medium. Thanks for responding I appreciate it.
May 19, 2006 at 11:45 am #13259JernejParticipantyou are wellcome
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