April 16, 2007 at 6:13 pm #21991
I recently spent some time with two masters. One was from the indigenous Bonpo religion of Tibet, and the other was from a Sri Vidya tradition in Southern India. Both of them alluded to the roots of their spirituality coming from a region in central Asia. the Bonpo Lama said it traced back nearly 18,000 years and the Indian master claimed 5-6,000 years. I know that a number of folks on this forum believe in the existence of Atlantis. What is the proposed relationship of Atlantis to these ancient cultures who appear to be fire primary in approach? Were there some Atlanteans that colonized the area?
I ask this partly because of the recurring themes of misuse of power and how they are triggering our collective unconscious now. The Atlantean story holds some deep lessons for us so that we do not repeat the mistake. I know that I am preaching to the choir. I ask also because the Sri Vidya teacher was explaining how the Sri Chakra relates to the nadis and marma points of the body(channels and pressure points), to music, and is a microcosm of the greater whole. I know that some on this forum have been having deepening connection with the Earth and with the Earth grid. The Atlanteans supposedly used a form of the Sri Chakra and their demise may have come ignorantly manipulating the Earth Grid out of a quest for power and control. It seems that there may be a way to heal the earth grid and its inhabitants by working from a place of deep harmony and wisdom. I have asked before, but does anyone know how the earth grid maps onto the energetics of the human body? It seems that personal practice could help the Earth at this point, and having a resonate energetic structure would be one way to communicate with it. Perhaps such a structure evolves/opens when one is stable enough to do that kind of work. Perhaps opening it prematurely leads to the same abuse and power-plays that happened before. Perhaps…
I’m looking forward to the retreats at heavenly mt this summer. Hopefully I can make more than one since it’s in my backyard! Best wishes to you all in your practice!
PemaApril 16, 2007 at 10:21 pm #21992
I find it important to stay in the now with my practice. To bring things in and deal with them in my inner earth in the now. This is also important I feel as the earth is changing and she may need to shake and move to settle in to her new mode. We can help stabilize this process with balance in our attitudes to it and our ability to work with the elements to try and make the process less violent. It is important from an energy stand point that one lives in a spot on the earth grid that fits them or they will feel drained. But the electro magnetics of how that works is not my department. Little tid bit supposedly it was the shift in the grid that cause so many whales to beach them selves as they rely on the grid to navigate so do allot of birds. So again staying in the now can help make sure you do not end up on the rocks.:)
Interesting little thing that came to me about the past, if you you have your feet pointing to the north, internally you have the culture of beauty, flowing to the earth to the left maybe Mu/Lemuria, the culture of earth Native Americans Hopi and such in the center, and the culture of technology, spring, flowing to the sun Atlantis to the right. I often heard that the Tibetans and the Hopi have an exchange program going, they do both have this mythology of going deep in to the earth.April 17, 2007 at 10:39 am #21994
The information that comes from my ‘memory’ is that ‘Atlantis’ was in the South Pacific. Atlanteans were not South Pacific inhabitants, their skin was much lighter but the locals lived amongst them and had their purpose in that civilization.
As for the earth grid, in my feeling it runs right through my body, like the animals we are guided by it like a compass and if it changes position we will have to be flexible to change with it….April 17, 2007 at 12:27 pm #21996
“Interesting little thing that came to me about the past, if you you have your feet pointing to the north, internally you have the culture of beauty, flowing to the earth to the left maybe Mu/Lemuria”
Not flowing to the earth flowing to the water/moon.April 18, 2007 at 3:16 am #21998
An excerpt from “The Explorer Race” channeled by Robert Shapiro. This channeling is dated 2/12/90:
“Lemurians did not need to build houses for their comfort. They could create comfort, they could allow comfort. They did not need externalized technology. The whole idea behind Atlantis was that human beings could learn to control their environment externally. And since those were largely the issues of the source problems relating to the male and female, it was believed that the best possible resolution of these problems could occur through confrontation and the abrupt canceling of Atlantis so that you, in this specific time right now, could resolve them. All things that are canceled- that is, stopped before their time- must be completed. You are in a better position, genetically and spiritually, due to your emotion and spirit, to resolve those issues now without repeating them completely.
You will see in the next few years some things that you won’t like. You’ll see corporations (you’ve already begun to see this to some extent) patenting actual flesh and blood. You will see regional patents and forms of life created by corporations that say, “They belong to us.” But you are now going to be in a position to resolve this. Feminine energy is rising on this planet within not only feminine beings but masculine beings as well, so there will be greater alignment of the ability to resolve.”
Pema, my personal perspective on how to be with the earth during this transformational period is that the more practice we have being in the neutral space with unconditional love the better. I do not think we need to worry about the grid.
As indicated in this channeling, and many others, the issues we are resolving are largely Atlantian, and those issues are ones of fear and control. As a techno-society birthed in the wake of those Atlantian issues, we are prone to believe we have to create a solution to them. What we really have to do is behave more like the Lemurian culture which was not techno-entranced. To my mind, developing a healthy relationship with the lifeforce which is love and allowing-based can provide non-egocentered solutions for us. As the feminine energies become stronger we will see more situations in which the “mothering principle” is automatically applied. Where basic old paradigm would say, “If you can pay for the food, you can have it,” basic mothering principle says, “When someone is hungry, you feed them.”
In short, a loving consciousness that is aligned with the Dao does not worry about the future and try to control everything. Like the Dao, it is open, calm and giving.
SophiaApril 18, 2007 at 4:18 am #22000
Very nice Sophia,
The feminine energy of unconditional ‘mothering’ is rising without any doubt…
all we have to do is let it rise and go with it, simple as that
Again we are on the eve
I already gave my memory on Atlantis’ destruction somewhere on this forum, where Atlantis was split into two groups where one group wanted to save the natives, the others didn’t, which divided families, weapons, killings amongst Atlanteans and relatives and the sudden rising of the awareness that their blindness of wanting control was the source of a destruction they could no longer control…white heatApril 18, 2007 at 9:28 pm #22002
Welcome to this forum! I’ve been absent recently due to time pressures, but am really pleased to have another enlightened female voice here (unless you are a man posing as Sophis/Wisdom….but it doesn’t feel like it).
I completely agree with Shapiro’s viewpoint, and may actually publish a different version of the atlantis-lemuria history later this year as an ebook. I’ve been threatening to for some years, looking for the right publishing format. Now I’ve decided an ebook will get it moving, and decide the rest later.
In fact, I recently started reading Shapiro recently and found him to be both fun and sophisticated, as channelers go. He has a quite a cast of aliens and races moving in and out of the earth’s grid. I like his idea of the chinese race emerging from the earth rather than descending from above – it fits with their placing Earth as the central element of the five elemetns. I suspect the lemurians are from the same source.
Yes, Pema is man, and wants a method, women just give birth, no method. But women still need to get pregnant, and skillful method can go a long way there….;)
I think he’ll get the right balance this summer at the Sun-Moon-Deep Earth alchemy retreat…..getting into the earth’s energy body is as easy as surrendering to gravity, but who bothers going REALLY deep into that? We usually just pause at the surface boundary…. Same with unconditional love, just another expression of spiritual gravity. Getting deep takes a little effort, given the density/resistance in this plane.
Love to hear more about you. What is your spiritual background? Where are you geogrpahically? Which star do you really come from????
michaelApril 18, 2007 at 9:37 pm #22004April 19, 2007 at 1:35 pm #22006
We find ourselves again in a similar situation on a world wild scale. There is a friction between nearly the whole southern planet and the interest of the ‘happy rich’ in the other camp.
Can we help them, even relocate them…in order to save them, or just leave them dying as many silently think…the situation in black Africa is already a catastrophy…
The friction is already causing wars and destruction and it will increase without doubt, until the situation in the home countries of the happy rich will be destroyed or severely damaged.
At the end we will understand we are on the same ship in this shared shit…
And planet earth is helping again, the earth pulse is increasing, her communication much more forceful… lately I am getting internal hits/hints, little internal earthquakes which draw me immediately (in)to her.
My Atlantean memory already showed me the weakness of man in such catastrophy, it is too vast, too global to do anything substantial, absolute surrender, ultimate letting go, not only of your life, but of whole societies if not big part of the planet…and don’t hope, don’t think you are better than… it doesn’t work that way!April 19, 2007 at 9:19 pm #22008
Welcome to this forum! I’ve been absent recently due to time pressures, but am really pleased to have another enlightened female voice here (unless you are a man posing as Sophis/Wisdom….but it doesn’t feel like it).I completely agree with Shapiro’s viewpoint, and may actually publish a different version of the atlantis-lemuria history later this year as an ebook. I’ve been threatening to for some years, looking for the right publishing format. Now I’ve decided an ebook will get it moving, and decide the rest later.In fact, I recently started reading Shapiro recently and found him to be both fun and sophisticated, as channelers go. He has a quite a cast of aliens and races moving in and out of the earth’s grid. I like his idea of the chinese race emerging from the earth rather than descending from above – it fits with their placing Earth as the central element of the five elemetns. I suspect the lemurians are from the same source.Yes, Pema is man, and wants a method, women just give birth, no method. But women still need to get pregnant, and skillful method can go a long way there….;)I think he’ll get the right balance this summer at the Sun-Moon-Deep Earth alchemy retreat…..getting into the earth’s energy body is as easy as surrendering to gravity, but who bothers going REALLY deep into that? We usually just pause at the surface boundary…. Same with unconditional love, just another expression of spiritual gravity. Getting deep takes a little effort, given the density/resistance in this plane.Love to hear more about you. What is your spiritual background? Where are you geogrpahically? Which star do you really come from????
Let's start with the star and work downward….
I have an very strong affinity with the star Altair in the constellation Aquila (the Eagle).
Ultimately, I think of The Source as Home. Sometimes, when folks have asked me in that new-agey way, "What planet are you from?" I want to respond- "I'm not from a planet. I'm from Space." Aaaaahhhhh, the Feminine.
I am in America and since I have a very private nature will leave it at that.
Many years ago I was involved with yoga and meditation, teaching it and doing related personal growth work back when it was just hitting the scene. I have studied all around and for a long time was very involved professionally in the "human potential" movement. I am much more private these days and I practice chi gung, mostly, and a lot of meditation. I am now chef in my own place, and a writer. I have a passionate love for beauty, sensuality, the mysteries, and freedom.
Thanks for asking!
Moving with the Sun into the earthy sign of Taurus- Love, SophiaApril 19, 2007 at 9:23 pm #22010April 20, 2007 at 5:48 am #22012April 20, 2007 at 1:03 pm #22014
Hmmmm “ciao, Sophia” sounds very Italian….perhaps a soul product of that sensuous italian landscape?
If you publish, or have published, be sure to let us know, there is no keeping secrets about that!
I have found some ways recently to amke the Sun-Moon journey easier and deeper, the last mexico retreat new things “surfaced”, seems we can’t keep them down….
Great to get to you better!
ciao & chi,
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