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  • February 12, 2011 at 2:07 pm #36657
    adel
    Participant

    I was looking for a daoist book
    or something in english that also
    has the characters next to the
    terms:

    eg: chi 気、shen 神、tao 道

    If you know of anything that seems
    helpful please let me know.

    Adel

    February 12, 2011 at 8:03 pm #36658
    atxryan
    Participant

    Hi,
    This translation of the Tao Te Ching has Chinese characters with it.
    There are also Chinese/English Dictionaries and textbooks for learning Chinese. Also there’s a book called Remembering the Hanzi, one for Traditional Charcters and one for Simplified characters. The focus of that book is learning the meaning, and in the back there is a pinyin pronunciation index.
    Hope this helps,

    Ryan

    February 12, 2011 at 8:04 pm #36660
    atxryan
    Participant

    http://www.amazon.com/Lao-Tzu-Ching-Institute-Translations/dp/0877733880/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1297558741&sr=8-4

    http://www.amazon.com/Lao-Tzu-Ching-Institute-Translations/dp/0877733880/re

    February 13, 2011 at 1:06 am #36662
    singing ocean
    Participant

    There is a good glossary in the book “Nourishing Destiny” by Lonny Jarrett that has many terms specific to Daoist cosmology. Also “Read and Write Chinese” by Rita Mei-Wah Choy, or you could go here:

    http://www.mandarintools.com/

    and find the chinese-enghlish dictionary, but just remember that if you are searcing chinese terms in pinyin (the romanization of chinese words, i.e. chinese words spelled using the roman alphabet) to pu “pinyin” in the search terms or it won’t turn up anything.

    February 13, 2011 at 2:38 am #36664
    STALKER2002
    Participant

    神情 shén qíng look; expression
    神色 shén sè expression; look

    I can’t understand what is the difference between (look; expression) and (expression; look)?!

    http://www.mandarintools.com/

    February 13, 2011 at 4:44 am #36666
    singing ocean
    Participant

    its pretty basic but if you just want the word, pronunciation and character, its helpful.

    February 13, 2011 at 1:43 pm #36668
    Steven
    Moderator

    Hi Adel,

    I see you already have some pretty good suggestions,
    and in fact, for the most part, mine would overlap.

    In particular, the best glossary of
    Daoist terms with their corresponding
    Chinese character (that I’m familiar with),
    would be the glossary in the back of the book
    “Nourishing Destiny” by Lonny Garrett. He
    also discusses some of these characters
    and their formations in the book itself.
    It is a big book, but contains lots of
    useful things, so it’s a good buy.

    A less efficient, but still good solution, would
    be to buy “Daoist Body Cultivation” by Livia Kohn.
    Most of the major terms are in there, and as they
    are introduced in the text the Chinese character
    is next to them.

    Many of her books have this feature, as well as the
    Journal of Daoist Studies (Vol 1.-4.) that she is
    editor of.

    Of course, typing in a term into an online Chinese-English
    dictionary is a free choice (see link), but as demonstrated
    in posts above, it carries with it the problem that there
    can be many many different entries, and you might not be able
    to figure out which entry is the one you want.

    We have most of Livia Kohn’s books, as well as Nourishing
    Destiny, in the summer HT bookstore. Are you coming this
    summer? If so, I can point some of these out, and you
    can just select what feels right to you.

    Best,
    Steven

    http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php

    February 13, 2011 at 3:10 pm #36670
    STALKER2002
    Participant

    Do you know anything about the construction of chinese-typewriter?

    February 14, 2011 at 3:01 pm #36672
    adel
    Participant

    神情 the second character has meaning in connection with feelings 

    神色 the second character means color, so how it would appear from the outward

    That would probably be the difference.

    Adel

    February 14, 2011 at 3:06 pm #36674
    adel
    Participant

    Nourishing Destiny looks like a good start.
    Since I don’t speak chinese but I can read
    Japanese it doesn’t really help for me to
    type things in by sound. I am going to try
    out that book.

    I hope to be able to come this summer but I
    am not quite sure of my schedule yet.

    Many thanks,
    Adel

    February 14, 2011 at 3:07 pm #36676
    adel
    Participant
    February 15, 2011 at 3:14 am #36678
    c_howdy
    Participant

    The traditional acupuncture points are no more real than the black spots a drunkard sees in front of his eyes.
    -FELIX MANN

    The imaginary concepts of meridians, vessels and elements associated with yin and yang cycles of energy thru these meridians and vessels are introduced…these meridian circuits around the body are named after various organs of the body with which there is no real association…a complex imaginary system of logic that is more appropriate to games than to science is introduced as cycles of creation and the cycles of destruction…
    -w.amazon.com: DEMOCRITUS about Ashley Croft’s book about hidden pressure-point techniques of Shotokan Karate

    May I ask, though it’s not the actual topic of this thread, how real one should see the theoretical foundation of Chinese Medicine?

    Dr. Mann himself has surprisingly positive views for example towards Anthroposofical Medicine, etheric forces etc., but he still claims that acupuncture points, and meridians do not exist; yin and yang, the five elements and the mathematically intricate laws of acupuncture are a philosophical concept, mostly irrelevant, suspectible to different explanation, or simply wrong.

    I must admit that I haven’t read Nourishing Destiny, but I will get it, when the right time comes.

    HOWDY

    February 15, 2011 at 3:43 am #36680
    c_howdy
    Participant

    I of course don’t have any kind of expertise about neither Chinese typewriter nor Chinese telegraph code system, but this brought in to my mind that nice small book by Jonathan Spence about the Memory Palace of Matteo Ricci.

    Matteo Ricci had developed system for memorization of Chinese characters, which is like visualization of mandala in it’s gross stage (utpatti-krama) in tantric sadhana. Some dedicated practitioners might advance in enlightenment, but in Buddhist terms one also starts to learn the Language of Dakinis.

    There is also well known practice of Beating the Heavenly Drum.

    The easiest way to ‘beat the heavenly drum’ is of course to use Morse Code for Roman Alphabet.

    My point is here not using a nmemonic system for communication between human beings, but system of communication between a necromancer and dragons, kind of energetic ouija.

    HOWDY

    February 17, 2011 at 3:42 pm #36682
    RyanO
    Participant

    Interesting points, Howdy.

    I have often wondered about the objective truth of Chinese medical theory myself.

    February 17, 2011 at 10:11 pm #36684
    singing ocean
    Participant

    The best method for verification is self-observation. Since Chinese medicine is an art form that has been studied and practiced for AT LEAST 3000 years, the channels and elemental interactions mentioned have been cross-verified by hundreds if not thousands of humans during that time.

    To me, the validity of these sources would be confirmed by the number of people that have been able to access it using the channels/elements and have cured themselves of various ailments.

    And also that if you cultivate qi, you can feel it flowing through the channels as well as the different qualities of it (jing, qi shen, yin, yang, yuan qi etc.).

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