April 7, 2005 at 2:58 pm #4087
I have been thinking about moral recently, and moral related to the effects of meditation and qigong. The last few months i’ve practised qigong about one hour a day, i don’t follow any existing technique, but practise from instinct. When i practise qigong, if am down, my mood always changes due to the practise and i feel great again. Recently this works even those days i don’t do any practise. If i for example feel jealous, that is usually a feeling that grows stronger and stronger, but now it is more like i feel jealous, and when i forget that i am jealous, the feeling immediately vanish, and i feel completly free and balanced again.
However, if i do something morally wrong according to my attitudes about what is right and wrong, the normal thing would to feel down because of it, shameful and really bad about it. But the same thing happens here! I do something immoral, and feel great, free and balanced after just a short while.
I asked a friend that is really spiritual about it, and he told me that when you are down and depressed you block the chi through and around the crown chakra and then the chi can’t flow good from crown to root at back side. So your self love is blocked, and you feel down.
When i thought about this i concluded that when you think about something that upsets you, creating a negative emotion that blocks your chi energy, but your chi flow is really great in general due to qigong practise, the negative emotion dissolves as the energy block very quickly gets unblocked.
The great moral problem here is that the chi flow doesn’t seem to understand that i should feel bad about myself when i do immoral things. I mean, it is great the feeling of jealously dissolves, but it is really good that negative feelings that i DESERVE also dissolves? It is a really interesting problem, as the chi doesn’t care why i feel down.
Does this mean i can get totally immune to negative emotions with simple qigong practise? Because if my chi flow gets so great in the future that i can’t block it with any negative thoughts whatsoever that would be the effect. The moral problem would still be there because even when i am balanced i can do immoral things if i want, but maybe i wouldn’t get any motivation to do bad things in such a spiritual state, as self love and love for others are the same in the same way as the sun shines inward as well as outwards?
I read practical philosophy at university, so those kinds of problems intrigues me!April 7, 2005 at 6:43 pm #4088
no text, baby.April 7, 2005 at 10:53 pm #4090
I’m new here and found your post very interesting. It seems to me that your practice of qigong is opening you to becoming more forgiving of yourself — which is a good thing, I think you would agree. I think that soon you will find that doing anything “immoral” will be impossible for you because the GOOD that you are building in yourself will overcome those feelings at the source.
I am not experienced in qigong (yet), but have found the practice of meditation has the same effect.
I think you’re right on with your thinking. You just need to “lighten up” on yourself a bit.
That’s my 2 cents anyway.
T-BearApril 7, 2005 at 10:59 pm #4092
And another thought, Crevy. Unless you killed or intentionally hurt someone, you don’t “deserve” any negative thoughts about yourself. You only deserve to open up to more love — for yourself and others.
T.April 8, 2005 at 1:40 am #4094April 8, 2005 at 3:47 am #4096April 8, 2005 at 6:13 am #4098
I am a philosophy student, and I practice qigong and meditation.
In relation to your question, I think you have made alot of the same reflections that I have made, being occupied with the “philosphical” idea of right and wrong action.
My own experience is that the intellectual handling of moral issues is limited to say the least. After a while of doing meditation and qigong, I realized that there really is no morally “bad” or “good” per se. Atleast not in real life. Actually, I found myself doing “bad” things alot more after becoming more deeply envolved with spiritual practice. The lifeforce has no preference of intellectual ideas, like you said.
But what I found in myself was that qigong and meditation forces you to do the RIGHT thing. Sometimes that seems like the wrong thing to do intellectually, and sometimes that seems like the “Good” thing. What happened to me was that I felt spontaneously what to do solved the whole issue directly, and in retrospect, I saw that if I followed my intellect and did a “good” thing, like not becoming angry, the situation actually would have become worse.
So I guess I have come to a limited understanding that “skillful action” is based on being honest to your true nature, and not to intellectual ideas, and becoming aware of what you feel, and becoming more honest, actually makes the whole problem of Morals dissapear. Atleast sometimes…
Hope this is of some help.
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