October 29, 2006 at 11:00 am #18946
COW’S MILK AND DAIRY (approx 2650 words)
By Dave Rietz, WEBmaster http://www.notmilk.com
Yes… mother natures “perfect food” … for a calf!
[Until it’s weaned]
Everything you know about cow’s milk and dairy is probably part of a
Dairy industry MYTH! Cow’s milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased
animals that has a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing
substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.
*ALL* cow’s milk has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and
cholesterol. Most cow’s milk has measurable quantities of herbicides,
pesticides, dioxin’s (up to 2,200 times the safe levels), up to 52
powerful antibiotics, blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow’s
milk can have traces of anything the cow ate… including such things as
radioactive fallout from nuke testing … (the 50’s strontium-90
The leading causes of death are:
Rank Total Description
1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat,dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. Think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Inj & Adv. Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright’s disease: inflammation of the kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)
(2a and 7a were added for completeness)
(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal
Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law
inforcement and homicides… and not the 250,000 deaths caused by
the medical system!)
**** Cancer “Fuel Cell”:
Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin-
like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical
between cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a “fuel cell” for
any cancer… (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid
growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we
suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).
IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk… the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow
quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they
need MORE growth? Consumers don’t think anything about it because they
do not have a clue to the problem… nor do most of our doctors.
(See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)
Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of
milk… because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese.
Each bite of ice cream has 12 times … and every swipe of butter 21
times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.
**** Monsanto and rbGH (Posilac)
Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent
orange, Roundup and more… spent around half a billion dollars
inventing a shot to inject into cows… to force a cow to produce MORE
milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).
Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein
Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals… but that
important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from
everyone under Clinton’s Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough
of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.
Monsanto’s Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed
in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that
breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their “finding” is
ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow
(rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board
at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that
confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.
**** IGF-1 increases
This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of
milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24
ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming
12 ounces more milk per day… HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD
SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical
milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from
dairy… and that 10% increase becomes the “tip of the iceberg”. We
have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but
considering cancer rates… it has to be significant.
Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
“2%” milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.
Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept
of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the
54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream,
cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives
(casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant cause
for their weight and health problem.
Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes…
from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of
magnesium… necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.
The calcium in cow’s milk is basically useless because it has
insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of
milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of
12 years? OK?
Read more about it at:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html PCRM article on the 78,000 nurse
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt (most recent) CRIPPLING
http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info
Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No
matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used
their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens
that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones).
Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of
Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:
Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794
The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended
three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that
only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest
it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3
magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of
calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio… only
98.38mg of calcium is usable.
Milk can be thought of as “liquid meat” because of its high protein
content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH
calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets (meat,
milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
**** The wholesome protein myth:
MILK: 87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water.
Broken down into its basic groups… WHOLE MILK is:
WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER OTHER
87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75
(note: that is 3.25% “milkfat” which includes the 87% water.)
80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder… a
polymer used to make plastics… and a glue that is better used to make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder… as “something” caseinate.
Casein is a powerful allergen… a histamine that creates lots of
mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo’s body was Benedryl,
a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal… pizza. See
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/112398.html for the whole story.
Cow’s milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for
bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets
to your table… each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees
To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several
minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn’t it!
Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk
DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very
ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow’s milk is allowed to have
up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is “PUS”) and 20,000 live
bacteria. before it is kept off the market.
That amounts to a whopping 20 million life squiggly bacteria and up to
750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart).
1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria
24 oz (3 glasses) 532,323,450 pus cells ~ 14,220,000 bacteria
(the “recommended” daily intake)
The EU and the Canadians allow for a less “tasty” 400,000,000 pus cells per liter.
Typically these levels are lower… but they COULD reach these levels
andstill get to YOUR table.
The cholesterol content of those three glasses of milk is equal to
what one would get from 53 slices of bacon. Do you know of any doctor
who recommends that much bacon per day?
Is cow’s milk and dairy “Kosher”? Consider this:
“D-3 always is derived from an animal. The sunlight reaction that
converts 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D-3 is a ‘pure’ chemical
reaction that occurs in your skin in certain cells.”
“The provitamin known as 7-dehydrocholesterol is extracted and isolated
from the skins of mammals and purified.” (Marian Herbert of the Vitamin
D Workshop U of C)
Vitamin D-3 can come from four different sources:
Pig skin, sheep skin, raw fish liver, and pig brains. Most of the time,
Vitamin D-3 is extracted from pig skin and sold to dairy processors.
Short answer to “is milk kosher” – probably not.
**** Other “stuff”:
Fat and cholesterol. Lots of it. Per the dairy influenced USDA
“food pyramid” all milk, dairy and meats should represent no more than
8% of the diet. Statistically, by volume of sales in a nation of 281
million Americans, it works out to almost 40% of the diet for MILK AND
DAIRY.. without the meat.
The milk of each of the over 4,700 mammals on earth is formulated
specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and
immunoglobulins (cow specific immunizing stuff) that in humans serve as
Sixty Percent of America’s dairy cows have leukemia virus.
The protein lactalbumin, has been identified as a key factor in
diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving cows milk to infants).
**** Crohn’s Disease
Mycobacterium paratuberculosis causes a bovine disease called
Cows diagnosed with Johne’s Disease have diarrhea, and heavy fecal
shedding of bacteria. This bacteria becomes cultured in milk, and is not
destroyed by pasteurization. Occasionally, the milk-borne bacteria will
begin to grow in the human host, and irritable bowel syndrome and
**** Mad Cow Disease
There may also be prions (pronounced PREons) in the milk and meat.
This is crystalline substance that acts like a virus… with an
incubation period of from 5 to 30 years. The end result is MAD COW
Large fat molecules cannot get through the intestinal wall into the
bloodstream. The cream no longer rises… because homogenization breaks
up those large molecules into small ones that DO get into the
bloodstream! This becomes an expressway for any fat-borne toxins (lead,
dioxin’s, etc.) into your (otherwise) most protected organs.
**** Cumulative effects:
How does this impact humans who consume cow’s milk and dairy? Obesity
(over 50% of Americans and rising), heart disease, cancer, allergies,
digestive problems, diabetes, asthma, desensitization to antibiotics,
behavioral problems, and the constant ingestion of dioxin’s, herbicides,
pesticides (and anything else the cow eats that is not good for any
critter), that winds up getting stored in HUMAN fat… is not healthy by
Those who resist believing the truth should understand that MOST of
the world’s population CANNOT tolerate the lactose in cow’s milk. Up to
95% of the black population, around 53% of the Hispanics, etc.) So
much for cow’s milk being “natures perfect food” for humans! Mother
nature knows better.
Common sense question: Where was this massive “milk is a must”
before refrigeration, pasteurization and mass transportation? Back when
cows gave only 1-4 pounds a day it was quickly made into BUTTER and
cheese! Now that those same cows have been tweaked and shot-up with
Posilac to produce up to 55 or more pounds of milk per day… almost all
year long… it is suddenly (after many thousands of years) a daily
**** SOME ANSWERED QUESTIONS:
Q: What is WHEY?
Whey results when the FAT and CASEIN are removed from milk.
In making cheese, the curds become the cheese.
Whey’s main components are bovine serum albumin and lactalbumin.
There are other hormones contained in whey.
Q: What happens to the: 59 hormones Scores of allergens herbicides, pesticides, dioxin’s
up to 52 antibiotics when made into cheese?
A. Everything gets concentrated. when made into butter?
A. The allergens get lost: but the dioxin’s and
pesticides and antibiotics remain in the fat. in the digestive system?
Steroid hormones survive, as do dioxin’s and antibiotics.
In homogenized milk, protein hormones survive… depending upon the
gastric pH, some protein hormones in cheese survive, but not all…
eleven steroid hormones survive. and… what happens next?
Eventually, everything is broken down, but not before the chemical
messengers (hormones) “deliver their message.”
Each of those hormones and proteins acts differently and has different
rates of degradation. BOTTOM LINE… they all survive to a certain
degree… and the effects are cumulative.
Other health trashing substances in cow’s milk:
whey: Blood proteins. Bovine serum lactalbumen has been identified as a
trigger for diabetes and other autoimmune diseases.
lactose: Two sugars. Glucose and galactose. Galactose has been
indentified as a trigger for glaucoma. There are several columns that
cover lactose (covering galactose and galactosemia):
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090599.txt Dr. Gordon: Heart Disease
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/629 Lactose is dangerous
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/453 Ben’s heart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/396 Femal Cancers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/378 Lactose intolerance
colostrum (cow’s first milk): Loaded with hormones, particularly IGF-I.
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“It’s not natural for humans to drink cow’s milk. Humans milk is for
humans. Cow’s milk is for calves. You have no more need of cow’s milk
than you do rats milk, horses milk or elephant’s milk. Cow’s milk is a
high fat fluid exquisitely designed to turn a 65 lb baby calf into a 400
lb cow. That’s what cow’s milk is for!” Dr Michael Klaper MD
***** PLEASE… PASS THIS INFO AROUND TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! *****
Other bad news substances:
http://www.dorway.com aspartame (Equal/Nutrasweet) This fake
sweetener is not an effective diet aid and it was NEVER proven to be
safe. Think 92 FDA complied symptoms (including death see
http://www.truthinlabeling.org MSG this flavor enhancer kissing-cousin
mind-blower to aspartame has 30 different names. Aspartame was used in
the testing placebos BEFORE it was legal (see
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This file: http://www.notmilk.com/milkinfo.txtOctober 29, 2006 at 4:26 pm #18947
While we’re on the subject, here’s some info on water and coke:
1. 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated.
2. In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so
weak that it is often mistaken for hunger.
3. Even MILD dehydration will slow down one’s
metabolism as much as 3%.
4. One glass of water will shut down midnight hunger
pangs for almost 100% of the dieters studied in a
University of Washington study.
5. Lack of water, the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.
6. Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses
of water a day could significantly ease back and
joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.
7. A mere 2% drop in body water can trigger fuzzy
short-term memory, trouble with basic math, and
difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a
8. Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the
risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it can slash the
breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less
likely to develop bladder cancer.
And now for the properties of COKE:
1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol
carries two gallons of coke in the truck to remove
blood from the highway after a car accident.
2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and
it will be gone in two days.
3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into
the toilet bowl and let the “real thing” sit for one
hour, then flush clean. The citric acid in Coke
removes stains from vitreous China.
4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers:
the bumper with a rumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap
aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.
5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals:
Pour a can of Coca-Cola over the terminals to bubble
away the corrosion.
6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked
in Coca-Cola to the rusted bolt for several minutes.
7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into
the baking pan, wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and
bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is finished,
remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix
with the Coke for a sumptuous brown gravy.
8. To remove
grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke
into a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, and run
through a regular cycle. The Coca-Cola will help
loosen grease stains.
9. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.
For Your Info:
1 The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid.
Its pH is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about 4days.
Phosphoric acid also leaches calcium from bones
and is a major contributor to the rising increase in
2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the
commercial truck must use the Hazardous material
place cards reserved for Highly corrosive materials.
3. The distributors of coke have been using it to
clean the engines of their trucks for about 20 years!
Now the question is, would you like a coke or a glass
Have A Great Day and Share It With Others
Do you still want a coke?October 31, 2006 at 11:54 pm #18949
There is a huge amount of info in here, some of which is regurgitation of old data: fat is bad, cholesterol is bad, calcium needs to be balanced with magnesium, to name a few. Reasonable people shown unbiased data (very hard to come by) might entertain a discussion of the facts. Unfortunately the point gets lost in the diatribe.
The Coke follow-on to the milk post also re-hashes spurious data. Coke’s (like most pop) ph is a bit higher (less acidic) than citrus fruit. The hydrochloric acid in your stomach is more than 10 times as acidic. Low Ph does not mean it’s bad for you. If you tend to be acidic, it’s not good to consume on a regular basis. Otherwise, in moderation, it’s not a big deal.
The high fructose corn syrup used in pop/soda appears to have some interesting properties. As a sugar, it looks like it can put on the fat much more easily than other sugars:
Also, pop is usually consumed cold to very cold. Cold sweet liquids consumed regularly stress the spleen. High fructose corn syrup, and the temperature of the beverage, are likely far more harmful than the acidity.
Water consumed in the quantities described in the article can be equally harmful for people with weak kidneys, which typifies a decent sized chunk of the US population. If it’s consumed chilled or iced, it’s almost as bad for your spleen as cold pop/soda. 8 glasses a day of cold water is likely far more harmful than a Coke.
Your stomach can be looked at as 100 degree (F) soup. Everything you put in your mouth has to be turned into this soup. The farther away from the temperature and texture of soup your food/drink is, the more work your stomach/spleen has to do to turn your food into good clear chi.November 1, 2006 at 1:43 am #18951November 1, 2006 at 1:57 am #18953
I’m glad to see that someone has offered a contrasting view to the normal one taken on the substances mentioned so we don’t fall into the usual pattern. But I have something to add.
While I agree completely about the warmth factor for the stomach as a cooking pot, with regard to the cold water vs a coke idea, it is equally important to remember that water has water energy and coke is an artificial (unnatural) substance that is usually consumed to compensate for something. The psychological aspect as well as the actual energy of the thing must be considered.
Coke, coffee, alchohol, sugar…lots of stuff is put into most people’s systems in order to speed them up, slow them down, “pleasure” them or something like that. The use of these substances, which are not made with very high consciousness, increases the imbalances present in the body because the intention in taking them is to get away from what one is experiencing. The substance actually exacerbates the imbalance one is trying to resolve. Water, like good food, doesn’t do that. So while cold water does chill the spleen, its energy is healthy. You can’t say that about Coke.
-ANovember 1, 2006 at 2:21 pm #18955
Controversial point: I don’t think anything is inherently healthy or unhealthy. Each substance has energetic properties. If those properties are what is needed, then the substance is ‘healthy’, ie good for you. Meat, coffee, coke, water, etc. doesn’t matter; if it’s what you need, it’s good for you.
Determining what is needed seems to be a very difficult endeavor though. We have so much head interaction (monkey mind) telling us what is good or bad for us. Learning to listen to what our bodies are asking for w/o prejudice is a rare talent; one which appears to take a lifetime of effort to accomplish.
nom d’Net: uroburro – re-cycling life eaterNovember 1, 2006 at 9:08 pm #18957
“I don’t think anything is inherently healthy or unhealthy. Each substance has energetic properties. If those properties are what is needed, then the substance is ‘healthy’, ie good for you. Meat, coffee, coke, water, etc. doesn’t matter; if it’s what you need, it’s good for you.”
The substances in question are products of a society looking to compensate for lack of love/chi. I can see to a small extent where the premise “just put it in and burn it up” has relevancy, but the fact of the matter is that this society (western, especially U.S.) is largely on “drugs” of different kinds because it cannot/does not want to access lifeforce directly through nature’s basic means. The psychological issues that are unresolved in humans force them to look for things to make them feel better. They will not go to the lifeforce directly because they are attached to substances which the entities of their addictions/issues want and need, and because they want to avoid the pain they feel since their hearts are closed to themselves. No one really needs sugar. It is an addiction substance. When the issue is resolved, the substance is no longer craved and proper food, “good” foods, if you will, satisfy normal hunger.
I completely disagree with you when you say, “if it’s what you need, it’s good for you” but I am not saying to use any kind of force to stop using the substances in question. One may “need” alchohol to calm down. But what is that person calming down inside themselves? Something they do not want to feel. The person chugging coffee all day needs to have that experience to find out that something is driving him/her that he/she is not paying attention to. The substance is playing a required part in the imbalance in the psyche. Taking the substance pulls the person to an extreme thereby exacerbating the imbalance. This will go on until the person either learns and corrects or injures or kills themself.
It is misleading to say that it is OK to eat things that are toxic in your system because you think you need them at that stage of development. This gives license to abuse. If you are under the spell of, say, soft drinks, you would mislead yourself to continue drinking them while saying, “This is OK because I need it now.” You could tell yourself that you are accepting the behavior for the moment while you bring consciousness into WHY you are drinking them and loosen the tension around it that way.
But the bottom line here is simple: Some things are not food. Coke is not food. Water is. You may say this is a subjective judgment but I do not think so because there is a point at which it is not our monkey mind spewing rules about diet but our body intuitively saying what it really “needs.” Vibration counts. All our parts are looking for love and connection. The practices bring that energy into our bodies. Real food supports this. Artificial substances compromise it because they are energetically unsound, meaning extreme, not balanced. They are part of the problem that goes away when the heart is calmed, the past is forgiven, and love is present.
Blessings, AlexanderNovember 2, 2006 at 2:31 pm #18959
My perspective is that the body is striving for homeostasis so to much of anything will strain your boby. More natural the better. All animals in nature know what to eat almost from birth. How does a baby know to suck on a tit? In a study they placed candy, carrots, and peas in front of toddlers and the kids avoided the candy. I find it easier to make the internal shifts, then the eating comes naturaly. You might be surprised how meany people feed there pets better then them selves. As soon as I became a parent to my self the shifts in eating became natural. Also a interesting thing to look at is who we try to dictate behavior by giving and restricting nourishment. See if you can also see any parents that use candy as behavior modifiers.
DogNovember 3, 2006 at 4:28 pm #18961
I do agree with you that we as a society are using drugs and foods as poor substitutes for love Alexander, but I’d like to clarify the way I used need in this thread. I mean the signal your body is trying to give you about its nutritional needs in the moment. Discerning this signal is extremely difficult for most people, me included. Thoughts like ‘it’s not organic’ ‘it’s artificial’ ‘it has eyes’ ‘sugar is bad’ might have nothing to do with what your body is trying to tell you. The examples you give above I would classify as monkey mind chatter, not genuine signals from your body. So, I don’t mean need in the sense that I think you are using it.
Genuine nutrition is lacking in our foods and I mean all our food, organic included. The absence of poisons does not guarantee the presence of nutrition; ie ‘regular’ produce as compared to organic produce. The soils our foods are grown in are so depleted that we are starving for nutrients at the same time that we are inundating ourselves with food. So you could be telling yourself, and your body, that you’re eating ‘good’ food because it’s organic and prepared with love. But if the soil that food was grown in, or the animals ate from, was not rich in nutrients, all the love in the world will not make up for the imbalance in nutrient density and flavor composition (I mean that in the 5 flavor sense). This is the danger inherent in some of your descriptions of artificial or toxic food Alexander. I do not think nature sees toxic and artificial in the same way that you are using them. For a fascinating unbiased look at nutritional qualities of everything, read a Chinese Materia Medica, Bensky and Gamble’s Chinese Herbal Medicine Materia Medica is a great one. Flip to the page describing the ingestion of a live gecko for a wonderful mirror from an-other side.
Yours in improving our health,
MichaelNovember 4, 2006 at 12:10 am #18963
You are not providing an argument here, only unnecessary details about food.
I am speaking from experience eating, not from my thoughts or artificially imposed rules, and I have no problem determining what my body wants. Your speech implies that you are not in touch with how you feel when you eat something. Can’t you tell the difference between what you feel like when you drink an empty liquid like Coke as opposed to what you feel like when you drink water? That’s the real answer to this discussion. Do you actually believe that someone “needs” something that is in a Coke and that that is nutitional for them? This is ridiculous. They want the rush and then the rush takes their lifeforce away with it. This is not a monkey mind conclusion about what happens. It is the experience of it.
Have you tried fasting on Coke or coffee as opposed to water? Think of that.
Haven’t you noticed the difference in how a natural chicken tastes and feels as opposed to a commercial one?
When a body is in balance (relatively) it does not signal you that you need artifical ingredients. It is disgusted by them and warns you away with that feeling.
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