April 14, 2006 at 5:34 pm #12728
How would you define these lofty goals? Is one different than the other? Is one a mistranslation of ancient teachings?
Immortality for the most part seems to be linked to Enlightenment by some teachers and considered a higher or lower stage by others.
Winn clearly thinks it is a higher stage involving the development of a “Yang Body”. When asked to define the yang body in a retreat Winn said most people have a “Yin body” this is what people use during OBE’s or remote viewing. With a yin body you are still in our body but your consciousness can go to other places.
Then he said if you develop yang body you actually go to those other places. So, like a Taoist Immortal doesn’t have an OBE he actually goes to wherever he wants.
Then some people compare this to the rainbow body in Buddhism .
Bill Bodri throws a different view that even the development of the yang body is a low stage of the path that does not come close to enlightenment(annutarasomyaksombhodi)which is the complete “dropping” of the self, complete freedom from suffering and conditioning etc etc.
Then other alchemy teachers like the Australian Brynn Orr say it’s not about creating a yang body but waking up to those levels of the self that already exist.
And…Ken Cohen says the word immortal is a mistranslation that actually stands for a person connected with nature. When you let go the seperate ego self you live as long as nature does as you are connected with it etc etc. But not really about devleoping a yang body per se.
Man, I am regretting doing this thread already. I suspect some of you think very differently about this subject and perhaps to be more honest about it we mostly don’t know
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