November 19, 2006 at 8:14 am #19251
The departure of insects from the body has been mentioned on this forum before. The symbolism in my case seems to be connected with the removal of certain kinds of lust (not necessarily sexual).
I think I understand what’s going on but it puzzles me! Not so much why they are departing but why they were there in the first place… the old Taoists talked about worms I think, and people connected the insects to those before. But they are insects, not worms! It seems this phenomenon is not limited to Taoism and is universal, yet there are no legends about preying insects to be found in mythology that I can recall.
Does anyone know how the insects got there to start with, and why they happen to represent this sort of gluttony?
Best, NNNovember 19, 2006 at 12:02 pm #19252
The Shaolin Master I used to train with often mentioned “mosquitos”. I interpreted them to be little energetic beings that would nip at us and take a bit of energy, much as mosquitos take blood. He would cleanse the room with different incenses to clear the type of mosquito/energy that was active under the conditions of that day.
But, I don’t think that is quite what you are talking about.November 19, 2006 at 12:26 pm #19254
Not quite the same. I think your teacher guy was not literally talking about insect spirits – I’m sure we all have our methods for cleansing rooms of these little nuisances. But this does not seem like that, it is definitely a kind of host/parasite relationship in the soul body, relating to excessive human appetites of some kind which these little beasties feed off and encourage. Their departure seems to be caused by a new relationship between spirit and soul. (Sorry to be vague!) NNNovember 19, 2006 at 1:39 pm #19256
Last year when my mother passed away, when she exhaled one of her last breath a swarm of what could called “insect like looking dark energy parasites” left her body through her eyes, ears mouth. I had done a releasing on her for about 10 minutes praying it would let go of her and it did- She had suffered for 30 years. When she was pronounced dead her body was illuminated and glowing it was pretty wild to say the least.
I would called it very dark spirit parasites entities, along those lines. I had a Student once who had physical Liver parasites with chronic fatique syndrome, we cleansed her with a Tibetan herb Formula.
It can be caused from many resons why?… some believe it’s ancestral others believe its from weakened faith, and others from being in contact with sick humans with serious Hungry Ghost (parasites), or sometimes nightime evasion possibly. To hard to give a good answer via a forum.
This is where your personal beliefs and what you stand for get tested, we all get tested, stay firm on what you believe and stay connected with your soul team. I have seen people tested like this and the Alchemical Meditations are for sure something I would not break away from, even basic rooting will be a plus too, She did a 40 day spritual practice and they did not last inside of her, it just became to intese for them, with her soul team, you could very well get a littler sick in the process dont be afraid it will pass.
Always in usefullness & practicalness,
SnowlionNovember 19, 2006 at 1:53 pm #19258
I will be vague as well, because I don’t feel talking too much… but yes my insect relationship was definite quite larger than a mosquito… more a giant grasshopper type that was glued and released from the throat area. Insects are the most dominant species on this planet we have without any doubt a relationship with them….and yes, there is a sexual reason in my opinion.November 19, 2006 at 2:26 pm #19260November 19, 2006 at 2:27 pm #19262
>>This is where your personal beliefs and what you stand for get tested, we all get tested, stay firm on what you believe and stay connected with your soul team<<
What on earth could I stand by but myself? I am not in any danger and I enjoy being tested.
Thanks for that and sharing your experience with your mother.
Best NNNovember 19, 2006 at 2:48 pm #19264
I have experienced these types of astral parasites departing during intense kan and li retreats, or meditations at home, They can be present at many levels which reflects its origin (personal, ancestral etc.), this type of energy can also be experienced as a dark viscous mass.
Its a good idea to continue doing whatever you were doing to integrate and harmonize your inner self so there is less unconscious space for them to feed in. I have found kan and li with the seven directions useful for this.November 19, 2006 at 2:52 pm #19266November 19, 2006 at 11:02 pm #19268
Symbols differ in meaning from person to person, and culture to culture. In America we see a goats head or rams head and it does not symbolize the same thing that it does for some on in China. Interpration of symbols is a tricky and personal work. Often times we might see things that are out of time or have something to do with lifes you are not conscious of.
There is a shaman tool of turning unhealthy things into objects of nature. Did you see green mile?
As Dog I know all about some parasites(demons).:) There are physical representations of energtic stuff. I find what effect one level goes to the next. For me they are a wonderfull tool that keeps me on my path. If I am not in my body they are happy to make it there home. They reflect back to me in powerful ways. I find them to be important part of my evolution. If you look at the symbolism of your relationship with them you will learn alot about your self. There are parasites inside and out, it is our choose how long we wish to give them a home. I find it is all about draining energy(power & vitality). This is why our money is called “currency”. The flow of energy like the “current” of a river being guided by the river “banks”. With parasites more and more of your energy goes to less of your own joy and health untill hopefully you say I want my energy and body back. You could say parasites “Tax” our system.:)November 20, 2006 at 7:10 am #19270November 27, 2006 at 6:27 pm #19272
I have studied parasites for some time. On the physical level, you have worms, protozoa, bacteria, fungus, yeast etc. You even have smaller parasies that infect the larger parasites (viruses, nematodes..)
Contrary to Modern medicine’s naive beliefs, these organisms are highly evolved, sentient, intelligent beings. They have the ability within their DNA to mutate and morph to meet any new extremes their environment present. This is exemplified by bacteria becoming resistant to antibiotics, supergerms and the theory of pleomorphism. On the spiritual level, they can be very strong. My opinion is, if you present a home for them, they will come. After all, it is a cold world out there!! Once they come and make your physical body their home, it can be particularly difficult to get rid of them. Afer all, who wants to go out in the cold rain and snow when you have a nice cozy warm abode with lots of food and sex (parasites like to procreate)?
In the amazon, a skilled curandero uses plants and plant spirits to heal a sick person. Their philoshophy is that these parisites are spiritual in nature and secondarily, have a physical manifestation as a worm, virus, fungus growing inside the body. Some diseases can be difficult to heal because these spiritual parasites try to hide. They are intelligent enough to know when they are being hunted and try to remain elusive. However, they can only hide for so long if the curendero is adept. typically, from what I have learned, STD’s like AIDS can take three times as long to heal in a person than things like cancer or diabetes. Minor afflictions can be healed in a few weeks, while the more evasive spirits like AIDS and herpes can take 6 months or more. Thsi is considered spirit medicine. It isnt jsut arbitrarily taking plants or herbs, it is enlisting the plant spirits help to fight of the insidious spirits.
My personal experience has show me a huge corralation between the insect kingdom and spiritual parasites. I had a loved one whose whole home became infested with moths. No matter what she did, the moths came back. She felt she was under attack form these moths and believed they where entities. I can personally verify that she was under attack to a degree. She eventually became very sick and died this past August. After she became sick, I took care of her for almost two years. She did have a strong parasite. I could feel it. I always could sense a third intelligence along with mine and hers. In the end though, this relationaship of host and parasite, which ended in her physical death, was good. It may seem strage to say that, but, I spent two years battling and fighting for her. It turned out to be futile. I didnt realize until the end that she had wanted to leave this world. She had made some sort of agreement and let this entity into her to help transform her. In this way, the parasit relationship was actually a symbiotic relationship. Now this is a much abbreviated version – I just wanted to share a little bit about “parasites”November 27, 2006 at 7:33 pm #19274November 27, 2006 at 7:46 pm #19276
what i gather from what you are saying is that the parasite can only live within a certain environment, which is determined by a combination of the emotional, mental and physical state of the host.
so that woman in some way or another basically invited that moth thing into herself through her intention to leave this world.
reminds me of the stance taken by louise pastures’ opponent (forgot his name) who basically said that it is the terrain that determines what lives there (whereas pasture claimed that the ‘germ’ was the primary thing to be addressed)
eckart tolle says that if you can ‘allow” or ‘be friendly’ to what ever is afflicting you, whether it be a parasite, illness, whatever, then by allowing and being friendly to it, it cannot not be friendly back to you.
it’s a bit like the the innersmile in that a friendly harmonising smiling energy generated by yourself ultimatley brings everything into allignment with that smiling friendly state.
i think that this is how pleomorhism occurs on any level.November 27, 2006 at 8:19 pm #19278
You said it well.
Have you ever seen Star Trek? There is a being on Star Trek that uses a parasite to store life wisdom and knowledge in a very evolved parasite. So in return for good health and knowledge and memory storage. It lets the parasite us its body. Very intresting.
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