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  • This topic has 6 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 17 years, 10 months ago by sebastian.
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  • June 28, 2007 at 9:40 am #22687
    sebastian
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    This is a thread focus on discipline.
    I practice, but earlier or later my minds finally yields and I start sleeping late, wake up more tired and forgot to practice or can not do ti because prefer to do other things like watch tv, and so on. Work from 9am to 6 pm so that difficutls it even more.
    I opened this thread with the main idea that each of us tell how to win this mind battle and be always constant on practice and do not touch tv or other bad society habbits anymore.

    June 28, 2007 at 5:21 pm #22688
    Alexander Alexis
    Participant

    Sebastian, we cannot “control” the process of our growth. That is the grand delusion at this level of human experience.

    What we can do is use every experience to teach and guide ourselves. We must coach ourselves with compassion (inner smile) not coercion. It is through following and adjusting the balance of things within that we truly alchemize ourselves. Any leading we do must come from a clear positive self-loving intention toward wholeness. Intention guides the energy. The means determines the end. What end do you want to create?

    Your concern implies that IF you should actually be able to control everything and “win this mind battle and be always constant on practice and do not touch tv or other bad society habbits anymore” that you will achieve something important, maybe your freedom, or enlightenment; that only through that kind of control can you achieve your goal. I find this to be a false premise. The moment you truly accept yourself for what you are doing change starts to happen.

    On the great doorway of the ancient temple are the sayings, “Know thyself” and “Everything in moderation”. Balance is the key. To control is not to balance. We develop compassion for ourselves and others as we accept the foibles of our personality and nurture ourselves into harmony. To force “good behavior” is not to teach but to control. No actual learning comes from controlling. The parts of ourselves that want to control other parts are just parts themselves needing attention. The spirit within is utterly accepting and in being so engenders growth and positive change. (That is the nature of “neutral” force, and the only thing which accomplishes the changes we desire at the root level. Spirit is not trying to change anything here! It is holding the Center, loving everything. That is what is keeping this universe from blowing apart.)

    Thus, it is always a “two steps forward, one step back” process. So while you may be looking at the short term and concluding that you are losing ground, in the long term, the opposite is true- unless you give up!

    This path requires a lot of patience. We are our own children. Relax, and enjoy practicing. Give to yourself. Remember what you really want to create in the end.

    Blessings, Alexander

    June 28, 2007 at 6:51 pm #22690
    Dog
    Participant

    I see the more you give an intent (chi gong helps to turn up the volume on the intent(the source of the intent may be unconscious at the moment as well)) to make things more consciouse, the more unconsciouse controls will start resisting you. Its not easy because its you trying to sell you on not waking up. Keep going!! Consitancy over quanity. Start with inner smile practice, mix in joy and acceptance into every practice. Try having a special space. The more you do Chi Gong in that space you might find that by just standing in that space you get inspired to practice. Nature can be inspiring just find a mild spot nothing to cold or hot or damp. I hope this helped.

    June 28, 2007 at 9:51 pm #22692
    DamonM
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    Try dedicating yourself to at least 5 min’s of whatever practice you feel moved to do. Make that your absolute minimum practice time.
    Like Dog is saying consistency over quantity.
    Also quality over quantity.
    Make that 5 min’s really rich in experience injecting feeling and self-acceptance into the practice.
    Even if you feel you got nothing out of it, I think you have gotten sometime from it, it may just be to subtle at your current level of awareness.
    But also even if you miss a day the self-acceptance of this is important. (Keep smiling)

    But after you miss a week of practice is so easy to miss a month of practice and so on.

    Staying connected to the practice helps keep us connected to our energy bodies.

    Living in this dense physical world it is so easy to begin to disregard our energy bodies if we stop practicing.

    I like to spend more time with the practices when I can. At least 20 min’s in the morning and so time in the evening. But that’s just me.

    Have Fun
    Damon

    June 29, 2007 at 2:53 am #22694
    Steven
    Moderator

    Ah . . . my favorite question.

    I think about this question a lot myself, and
    often ask others about their methods also. Resistance
    and I are well-acquainted.

    To add to the advice given by the previous posters,
    I’ve got a collection of nuggets I’ve picked up
    along the way . . .

    Here are a few tips I can give that require zero extra time:

    1. Do the Six Healing Sounds in the car on the way to work.
    2. If you have chosen to watch TV, try muting the TV during commercials,
    then get up and do one of the Five Animals a few times
    (preferably not in view of the TV)
    3. Do a short (i.e. 5-10min) Inner Smile practice before lunch, or
    right before you start working again after you’ve let lunch digest.

    Other tips:

    1. Do the Seated Six Healing Sounds (or the Blissful Breathing Qigong)
    right before bed.
    2. Take a short walk during the day when you need to take a break
    and practice Internal Chi Breathing while walking; if not self-conscious,
    stop periodically in the walk and do a rooting posture.
    3. Unwind by reading qigong books instead of TV. You may find after some
    reading that you are stimulated to practice.
    4. Start a practice log on the Healing Tao forum that is public.
    If you don’t practice for a couple of days, you may start to feel
    guilty since you know other people are not seeing new posts. 🙂
    5. Buy sledgehammer. Raise over head.
    Bring down on top of TV set. Dance gleefully over broken TV parts.
    Practice qigong unencumbered by TV distractions.

    That’s about the most I can come up with now . . .

    Best,
    Steven

    June 29, 2007 at 6:49 am #22696
    snowlion
    Participant

    Hi Sebastian,

    It really boils down making the choice to practice; and how much you want it. Writing it out might be good; when you physically write a schedule for yourself you will be more commited. I dont advise the computer its not the same effect as penmanship.

    Most of the teachers I have studied with over my life required me to do a practice log and bring it daily, weekly – this will make you accountable to yourself & your practice. I do the same with my private students. Alot of traditional teachers require
    a serious commitment to them and their way, but you can do the same for yourself.

    I recommend not any heavy demands but in the beginning a basic day & time on paper
    for yourself to know that you need to practice. The bottom line is that only through
    serious training will you get to the higher levels;sometimes we are spiritually tested by the Dao on how much do we really want it.

    Keep it simple is the best advice and know that at ” ” time its my time for Chi, for my inner connection.

    SnowLion

    July 2, 2007 at 12:55 pm #22698
    sebastian
    Participant

    While in the short term you actually think your losing ground, in the long term the opposite is happening.
    Not only that phrase really makes sense, otherwise all you said.
    Thanks to this and others posts.

    I’ll give it a try again under another point of view perspective.
    Sebastian.

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