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July 4, 2006 at 10:27 am #15382DylanParticipant
I wrestled with the DNA as god conundrum when I studied Biology at University.
We had to read a book called “The Selfish Gene” by Richard Dawkins which depressed me immensely. Dawkins is the one of British champions of mechanistic Biology.
It posited that we are not really in charge but are like robots run by tiny selfish machines which propogate themselves throughout evoultion (sounds like alien reptilan possession doesn’t it?).Later I came across the works of Rupert Sheldrake which were a major inspiration to me and helped to shape my wholistic scientific viewpoint. He posited that the hope of discovering the secrets of life in DNA is just another form of reductionism like Physicists trying to locate the ultimate particle. Try as we might we will never find a molecule called “intelligence” because intelligence cannot be pinned down. DNA does not explain differentiation during growth for example, arms and legs are different yet the DNA code is uniform throughtout. Sheldrake suggested a morphogenetic field (he wasn’t the first) that shapes form and behaviour. I’m sure that DNA is essential in the way that components of a Radio are essential for picking up various frequencies. All the properties of superconductance etc are true for all the molecules in the body. They all seem to behave intelligently but are not hte sole source of intelligence.
DNA is located in the nucleus which suggests that it is the physical manifestation of the Dan Tian of the each cell. Mitochondia have separate DNA, and they are essential to our functioning. The Dan Tian is a concept that embraces all centres to ultimately form the centre of the universe everywhere and nowhere. This is the “place to look” in my view.
Dylan
July 4, 2006 at 12:00 pm #15383.freeform.Participanthang on…
I really didn’t mean that DNA was our ‘god’… I was suggesting that DNA is an intelligence, that has a will of its own… also coz it’s so ingrained in me, I forget to mention this when I give out philosophical oppinions on things: I dont really believe it! It’s like painting a portrait – the paint on the canvas is not the person sitting in front of me… it’s just the creative/playfull process of interpreting what’s out there in interesting ways.
because we’re humans we always see things through the human nervous/energetic system… and that’s fine… I was just exploring the possibility that there is a deeper intellignece at work… our lifetime is very short, only some of us accomplish anything really worth-while… and most of us really are like robots replicating ‘the true intelligence’ which is the DNA (again – this is not ‘the truth’ – just a postulation that could be interesting to explore)… If you think from DNA’s point of view, it would feel more like a kind-of collective uncncious – DNA seems to morph into so many different shapes, always intermediating between the earth and the sun… It’s been around for hundreds of millions of years, and has finally ‘decided’ that it needs to leap off the planet and into space (whether physical or ‘spiritual’ or both) so it’s morphed into a microcosm of itself – *us*… and this cheeky snake (dna coil) gave us the fruit of knowledge of ‘good and evil’… or a concious mind… which can study itself… and in systems, if a system can study itself, then it can expand itself infinitely. Some people seem to have grasped this gift of will and have lead spiritual lives, but most are still just robots replicating more DNA so that we get more of the ‘spiritual types’.
July 4, 2006 at 12:34 pm #15385kipsterParticipantThanks for your thinking on this manner. There is a web site, http://www.natureinstitute.org that does a splendid job of deconstructing the mechanistic view of biology and replacing it with a clear understanding of the holistic nature of nature. They present their understanding with clarity, detail and example. You may be interested in reviewing their offering.
July 4, 2006 at 2:56 pm #15387Alexander AlexisParticipant“DNA seems to morph into so many different shapes, always intermediating between the earth and the sun… It’s been around for hundreds of millions of years, and has finally ‘decided’ that it needs to leap off the planet and into space (whether physical or ‘spiritual’ or both) so it’s morphed into a microcosm of itself – *us*… and this cheeky snake (dna coil) gave us the fruit of knowledge of ‘good and evil’… or a concious mind… which can study itself… and in systems, if a system can study itself, then it can expand itself infinitely.”
You seem to be implying that it is the dna that is making the choices instead of us, which leads me to believe you are forming an identification with “us” and not “dna” when to my mind we are neither, and greater than, and partici[pating inthe Creation from all the possible manifestations and angles.
I think the reality is that we will achieve our spiritual destiny as we begin to see that we are the ISness within it all, not any of the parts themselves. All the parts may be making choices all along (“we” as “them”) but it is the underlying consciousness and source which is guiding the whole experience. And don’t we want to identify with that? -A
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