September 4, 2007 at 12:02 pm #24127
This time talking about his field dealing this worm holes/star gates and a tecnology called looking glass. The looking glass of course remindeds me of pictures of old romany women looking in to the future.September 4, 2007 at 12:23 pm #24128
… as more of this secrecy gets unveiled.”
That was in his ‘yin fire pig address’ 🙂 way to go spot on haha! jSeptember 4, 2007 at 6:28 pm #24130
Thanks for the links. I met Dan about six months ago for two hours one evening and then briefly another time. Interesting person, though could talk a 1-900 operator’s ear off. He has a website Eagles Disobey http://eaglesdisobey.net/. Going through his forums is a little tedious, the best is to watch all the videos first.September 4, 2007 at 8:08 pm #24132
>>The looking glass of course remindeds me of pictures of old romany women looking in to the future.<<
Dude! Do *I* look like an old Romany woman to you? 🙂
All magicians scry. Watched the first half of his vid carefully, really fascinating to note the incredible similarity between the operation of the looking glass machine and magical techniques.
Right now the more experimental chaos magicians (and not only them) are working on techniques using 'probability scattering', that is, high- and low-probability futures and zooming in on desirable ones. Most of the people I know will use sigils for this, but of course a tarot deck works fine. You can find a good example from Taylor Ellwood (also a taoist alchemist BTW) in his book Space/Time Magic, using a technique originally derived from Phil Hine. Ellwood is *always* on about nonlinear time and appears to have been born with a natural sense of it.
In my opinion, to say the least, Dr Burisch is dead on right to say we have:
"shortcomings as people who aspire to things we maybe shouldn't grab a hold of…"
I say this because technology bypasses moral development. These effects are unquestionably possible without technology, but they require a level of spiritual mastery that world leaders don't have!!! 🙂 An actual looking glass can be used by anyone, but the kind of effects truly possible with one need alot of experience and clarity, moral clarity. Many magicians will use a herbal mixture to improve the image (a so-called 'fluid condenser') but that is as far as it goes – the idea of using a computer to statistically analyse possible futures gives me as many heebie-jeebies as it gives Burisch!
As a matter of fact the effects of all the technology we have at present including this machine really only require the human mind, so I believe. Our energy and atmosphere problems are the result of trying to acquire vision without its requisite companion, wisdom. Amonst my first posts on this board was a Sparean refutation of technology as a weakener of humanity – Michael agreed with it I remember, but felt technology is here to stay anyway so why inveigh, a very pragmatic taoist attitude. But it bugs me.
Interestingly Burisch's description of the looking glass machine itself reminded me a little of the enochian scrying system, described very entertainingly in DuQuette's 'My Life with the Spirits'. I remember distinctly how he found it harder and harder to climb to higher perspectives of understanding, but that each year he grew in maturity he could see a little more. That is how it should be! If young magicians can get these effects experimenting alone, you can bet the Tibetans have something similar with no computer involved! Franz Bardon could see anything he wished on the surface of a cup of black coffee, no trance required – see 'Memories of Franz Bardon'.
Which reminds me that in a similar vein I am fedup with tarot and on the advice of a friend am going to learn to read tea leaves! Which I always thought of as way witchy but guess what, it comes originally from China. Well where else.
Did a bit of magical work on 11:11 but I think it will be a while before a pattern emerges. Did notice on a navy website (linked below) that the winter solstice on Dec 21 of 2012 will occur at precisely 11:11 am, which I find rather… suggestive. But perhaps people here knew this already.
Did someone say 'interesting times'? 🙂 🙂 🙂 jSeptember 5, 2007 at 2:03 pm #24134
Hope the trend will be living technology. WOrking with living things creating win win situations.
For now on I will think of you as a old romany women, and laugh, thank you. 😉
Can you imagen being a people that can see the future you look and in the future there is no one left on the planet that you can see accept a few wondering around in the forrests. We say to our self “what happened to our great society, all gone we can not let this happen”. So you look to the source of the change or changes to try to fix it not knowing in reality there are so sew people left because most have shifted to other demisions or planets. The ones on the surface are there of there free will to play. Even if you live in suffering and pray for a better life, it is still hard to give up what you identify your self as.September 5, 2007 at 2:17 pm #24136
>>For now on I will think of you as a old romany women, and laugh, thank you. ;)<>Can you imagen being a people that can see the future you look and in the future there is no one left on the planet that you can see accept a few wondering around in the forrests. We say to our self “what happened to our great society, all gone we can not let this happen”. So you look to the source of the change or changes to try to fix it not knowing in reality there are so sew people left because most have shifted to other demisions or planets. The ones on the surface are there of there free will to play. Even if you live in suffering and pray for a better life, it is still hard to give up what you identify your self as.<<
Well yeah, except if you could do that with any accuracy you would have no problem seeing to the different levels also. "Oh THERE they all are…" 🙂September 6, 2007 at 5:45 pm #24138
Thanks for the overview of scrying in magical traditions.
One of the interesting ideas I found in The Explorer Race channelings (robert Shapiro) is that the Creator Gods with various talents are often looking to their future selves to find solutions to current problems, i.e. they are downloading that info faster and thus in effect creating a new timeline of manifestation. This is possible only since all time and space are simultaneous, not linear, and as Creative Beings we have the option of rewriting the script.
As NN says, this is not an alient technology, it is once that humans currently have….
michaelSeptember 6, 2007 at 7:42 pm #24140
>>One of the interesting ideas I found in The Explorer Race channelings (robert Shapiro) is that the Creator Gods with various talents are often looking to their future selves to find solutions to current problems, i.e. they are downloading that info faster and thus in effect creating a new timeline of manifestation. This is possible only since all time and space are simultaneous, not linear, and as Creative Beings we have the option of rewriting the script.
As NN says, this is not an alient technology, it is once that humans currently have….<<
I seem to recall from somewhere this is a stunt you have already pulled yourself, not without some difficult side effects too… wasn't a pyramid involved? 🙂
Do you recommend Shapiro then because I am finding it quite hard to get into channelled material, I don't know where to start. That series seems quite huge. jSeptember 8, 2007 at 6:08 am #24142
I think channelled material is unimportant, self-culktivation practices are what is essential. But I occasionally use them to get different perspectives, sometimes there are seed ideas that I will then explore in my personal practice.
Shapiro is one of the best channels I’ve read. Perhhaps I feel that way because so muchof what he channels confirms what I’ve already been practicing. Few channels go into detail about the third/neutral force, and he does in the context of humanity evolving a third gender.
He is actually what you would call a multi-channel, i.e. allows many different entities to jump in and express themselves. Again, the level of practice suggested are very elementary, not useful for that. I would just get his first volume and browse it, see if it engages.
mSeptember 8, 2007 at 7:43 am #24144
… if he does talk about third gender that is interesting to me alot. I agree with you on the reason to read it, I doubt anyone here is practicing anything in these books but as you say it is still interesting in what it might confirm or might trigger. jSeptember 8, 2007 at 8:13 am #24146
… his brand-new book, out in June, ‘Animal Souls Speak’? This is a book he says is ‘channelled from animal spirits’ who talk about their soul purpose. I guess that I am interested in it because I also ‘channel animal spirits’, although I don’t really look at it like that. I wondered if anyone had read it. This subject is very personal to me and I would hate to spend money on it if it turned out to be shite.
I looked at the ‘Explorer Race’ excerpts on Amazon and couldn’t really get into them. All about our destiny as genetically-seeded beings etc. I don’t see the point of reading it for me personally.
But I do kind of trust this Shapiro guy. Amazon now has blogs for authors, which appear on the product pages for their books, and in one of his recent posts he is saying something about the way birds are behaving right now which is exactly right, so I know he is in tune. Maybe the Explorer Race gets more interesting later?
Someone also offered to lend me a book by Barbara Marciniak of Pleiadian channellings, they said it would interest me. Has anyone read those?
Thanks jSeptember 8, 2007 at 10:52 am #24148
The explorer race helped me see a whole different part of the story. I heard about the ancestors and my on shadow side but, this opened me up to the macro/ET manifestation of my micro reality. It reinforced the value of my micro practice. I like the books as enjoyable reads, better then tv. For me a book is only as good as what it resonates with in side of us. Having already had my process the book just validated it. I hope that makes since. I also hope this helps.September 8, 2007 at 11:35 am #24150September 8, 2007 at 5:25 pm #24152
I’m not real big on channelled material either – usually too much to wade through to get to the practical information – but I’m finding the first Explorer Race book a great read. Part of what strikes me about the book is the generation of raw material for a new mythology/spiritual foundation. We lack a good contemporary version of how we got here, why we’re here, and where we might go. In that sense, his material works for me. I enjoy ‘trying on’ the ideas for size and fit.
I’ve been doing a fair amount of middle-of-the-night cultivation, seems my body wants to be up in the middle of the night. In combination with reading the book, I have had some fascinating dreams; playing with concepts and possibilities with a definite sense of assistance by helpful beings. The dreams are not conscious (yet), but they are vivid and leave a strong impression.
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