February 7, 2007 at 8:28 am #20853
Have always been patronizing ether to be air…
so western grading of central line really is: eter-air-earth
quote on air from fra.nz ba.rdon from ot.ava:
»The principle of Air
Another principle that originated from Akasha is the element of Air. Initiates do not consider this principle a true element; instead they make the concession of giving its place as a mediator between the Fiery and Watery principles, whereby the Air principle establishes, so to speak, the neutral equilibrium as a medium between the active and passive activities of Water and Fire. All created life was set in motion through the reciprocal actions of the active and passive polarities of the elements of Fire and Water.
In the position as a mediator, the Airy priciple has acquired from Fire the attribute of warmth and from Water the attribute of moisture. Life would not be possible without these two attributes. These two attributes also lend the Airy principle two polarities, namely in its positive effect the life-giving polarity and in its negative effect the destructive polarity.
I should like to add to this that in the instance of the aforementioned elements we are not dealing with common fire, water and air, which are actually only aspects of the physical or material plane. Instead we are dealing here with the universal attributes of the elements.
The principle of Earth
We have been told that Air principle does not actually represent a true element; this also applies to the principle of Earth. This means that out of the reciprocal action of the three aforementioned elements the Earth element came into being as the last element, which, through its specific attribute of solidification, contains all other three elements. It is this attribute of solidification which has given these three aforementioned elements a concrete form. At the same time, the activities of these three elements have been limited and, as a result, space, measure, weight and time have come into being. The reciprocal action of the three elements together with the Erth element became tetrapolar; therefore the Earth element can be considered a tetrapolar magnet. The fluid in the polarity of the Earth element is electromagnetic. Since all elements are active in the fourth, the Earth element, all created life can be explained. Through the realization which took place in the Earth element, the FIAT , the ‘let it be done’, came into being.’«
quote from eric yudelove:
» define It refers to energy in the universe. This energy had two polesYin and Yang, and five phases or activities gener ally referred to as elements.
The Kabbalists saw the first three elements, Fire, Water and Air, as emanations from the Three Mothers. The Hebrew Kabbalists were most concerned with these three elements. The element of Air is actually the equivalent of two of the Taoist elements: Wood and Metal. Air is seen as having two poles rather than being separated into two distinct elements.
Franz Bardon, the German Hermeticist said in Initiation Into Hennetics that Air has two poles. It mediates between Fire and Water. The Sepber Ycizirab confirms, numerous times, that Air acts in a mediator or balancing role. Bardon further says that in its job as mediator, Air assumes the quality of dryness from Fire and humidity (moistness) from Water to establish the dual poles. The two poles of Air are moist and dry. By this same manner of reasoning, Bardon fails to say that the two poles also take on the qualities of warmth (not hot) and cool ness (not cold). Warm and cool are the two balancing poles of hot and cold. The two poles of the Air element should be 1) moist and warm and 2) cool and dry to act as mediator between Fire and Water.
I searched for a long time for this information. Without it I could not complete the correspondences between the five Taoist and four Western elements. The Taoist element Wood has the quality of being warm and damp. Bardons description of one pole of the air element as humid would appear to match. Metal has the quality of being cool and dry. The other pole of the Air element in Bardons system has the quality of dryness. Close enough. Thus with the Western element Air combining the Taoist elements of Wood and Metal the two systems, Chinese and Western could be perfectly correlated.«February 12, 2007 at 9:58 am #20854
there are two holes (clouds) in classical physics:
1.existance of ether (interpretation of Michelson-Morlex experiment)
2.nature of black matter (laws of spectral distribution of black-body radiation)
(a latest Targ book quote)
It seems that all mainstream figureheads were not so straight after all. Even Edison was very fond of his meditation with ball bearing in each hand.March 10, 2007 at 4:47 am #20856
Yeah I read up on what you’ve written about a fairly long time ago. Its only my opinion but I think Eric Yudelove was wrong with his combining wood with metal theory. The Chinese five phases/elements do fit in with Hermetics, although your not likely to find that connection by reading Bardons work. You need to find info on the five pillars of Hermetics.
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