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September 12, 2015 at 10:52 am #44769rideforeverParticipant
In the last several years I have noticed how my inner state is affected by my environment.
One way is when the sun comes up my state changes – obvious, but to see it, how your buttons are pushed, is quite strange. Of course the moon cycles also does a lot to affect your mood.
Another thing is the wind. On the coast here we sometimes get a lot of wind blowing endlessly at your head. I find it puts me in my head. I am not sure right, after all it is just wind. But it seems to have a real yang energy.
The other thing I notice is the working week, as a cycle. Monday’s have a certain energy, Tuesdays a different kind of energy, etc…
I am not working at the moment, but I feel it in the environment.
I absolutely hate Fridays at the moment because everyone is super yang, all driving like mad to be the first person to get home and watch tv. I can’t stand the energy, I spend the whole day trying to remain grounded while everyone is super-excited to be able to shop, spend, drink, puke, stuff their face etc… all weekend.
I find it difficult.
So the environment includes the planetary weather, objects in the solar system, and the human social weather.
September 12, 2015 at 4:37 pm #44770StevenModerator>>>I find it difficult.
>>>So the environment includes the planetary weather,
>>>objects in the solar system, and the human social weather.When one is disturbed and affected by environmental factors, it is because one has weak energetic boundaries.
The Belt Channel meditation (Fusion 2) or the qigong (also taught in Fusion 2, but part of DHQ) can strengthen this.
HOWEVER, I know I’m going to sound like a broken record here, but it is true: the ultimate cause that creates weak boundaries to begin with, is not being sufficiently grounded. When you get deeply grounded, you become very solid in your being and from a neutral vantage point, you can easily determine “what is you” and “what is not you”. Then “what is not you” becomes stuff that you don’t empathically absorb into your energy body, i.e. you don’t take it on and let it influence you. Thus, you stay detached from it. In short, if you get deeply grounded, you will have a strong energetic boundary as a consequence, and you may not even need to do belt channel work.
Qi,
StevenSeptember 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm #44772rideforeverParticipantYou always turn threads into an opportunity to give advice; seems to be a problem you have !!!
Would you like to relate to any of the points in the post about the effect of these elements on us ?
Do you for instance know the yang/yin nature of the wind ? Because that would be interesting.
September 12, 2015 at 5:52 pm #44774StevenModerator>>>You always turn threads into an opportunity to give advice;
>>>seems to be a problem you have !!!Your post was basically “I have this problem”. You talk about these environmental things that affecting you, that it is a disturbance, and that you find it difficult. So it is only natural for someone to reply with advice. Or did you think this forum was your personal pulpit to complain about your problems and not expect a reply of a suggestion?
So if you’re taking my genuine reply personally and getting angry about it, then it is YOUR issue, not mine. What’s worse, is that you bark back at me about HOW you want your post answered, along with angry criticism. But then this fits in with your judgmental “hatred of people” comment you made earlier . . . that people don’t behave or do what YOU think they should do. Far be from someone else to act independently outside of your personal mental idea of how things should go, your wishes, and your demands. How arrogant!
>>>Do you for instance know the yang/yin nature of the wind ?
>>>Because that would be interesting.Of course I do. But I’m not going to, because you are extremely arrogant and unappreciative. You could have appreciated what I said and asked your new question nicely, but you didn’t. So as far as I’m concerned, you’re out of luck. You’ll have to get that info from somebody else.
By the way, since you don’t like how I answer your posts, I’ll make it simple for you. I’m just going to ignore any of your posts in the future, and maybe someone else can answer your posts “how you like”. For me, I’m not going to waste my time.
Thanks and best wishes on your path,
StevenSeptember 13, 2015 at 1:48 am #44776rideforeverParticipantYou seem to have some awareness that you “sound like a broken record”.
Indeed, and that is because it a subconscious dynamic. Very common.
It is a kind of addiction to a parent-child, guru-disciple, superior-inferior relating. And subconsciously looking for opportunities to recreate the dynamic.
Many people in the military have this subconscious tendency, either giving or taking orders, and you see it also a lot in spiritual circles, those that take great pleasure in memorising the words and mannerisms of the teacher, and repeating them to others etc…
The momentum of the past self is very strong, and when consciousness is sufficiently developed then it naturally relieves itself of these dynamics and is able to operate spontaneously.
The matrix of these subconscious dynamics actually has a purpose, they keep us in a safe frame of reference until we are ready to move beyond them.
September 13, 2015 at 4:24 am #44778StevenModeratorWhat a joke.
It’s interesting how you have so many problems, but yet, you apparently got it all figured out.Look, I was trying to break the news to you nicely, which was the reason for the “broken record” comment. And it wasn’t from repeating some verbalized mantra or teachings, but from direct personal experience over many years of working with this through practice both originally in my own case and then with others. Nothing in this system is about cute little mental spiritual clips that get repeated, it’s all about doing the practice and seeing a change.
I only post here on this forum out of gratitude to the system for how it changed my life, to give back to others when I was given so much when first starting out. But I also feel no need to post here on this forum. It is a time commitment that I could easily spend in other ways.
On that last note, I don’t choose to invest any more time in this thread or your posts. If you have some kind of emotional reaction to this, or some further judgmental reply, so be it . . . but I also take no ownership of it, as I don’t need validation from others for my sense of self, nor approval as to how I spend my time.
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September 14, 2015 at 6:26 am #44780rideforeverParticipantHey relax, no big deal.
I am just giving you a different perspective since you seem so desperate to cast the threads as needing your “help” !!
Openly discussing things is great, it’s great to share and we are all in this together.
September 16, 2015 at 8:31 am #44782frechtlingParticipantWow that got ugly…
September 16, 2015 at 9:50 am #44784StevenModeratorI know, Jeff, and I’m sorry, but here’s the truth. He posts all his problems, then when people respond with suggestions, he makes a biting judgmental comment that completely ignores the context and fact that he was posting his problems. Sorry, but I just don’t give that kind of behavior a free pass.
Even his “so-called” apology here is an attempt at another dig, with title “compulsive helping syndrome”, repeating his original tripe, and casting my prior threads as “desperate”. Eh, whatever. Not wasting my time on him any further. But sorry for the ugliness.
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September 17, 2015 at 7:11 am #44786rideforeverParticipantWell, you talk about ignoring the context.
This thread is about chi in the environment, an interesting subject.
You ignore it, and hunt around for another problem you can “give advice” about.
The alternative I suggest to you, is communicating without agenda, being present. Then actually these discussions might be interesting.
If you re-read the threads (of mine) you jumped in on, you ignore any opportunities to have an interesting open discussion, ignore what is presented, and re-create that mechanism.
September 17, 2015 at 10:32 am #44788StevenModerator>>>This thread is about chi in the environment, an interesting subject.
Really? Let’s look at your post.
Title of YOUR post: Environmental *Disturbances*
YOUR VERY FIRST sentence:
>>>In the last several years I have
>>>noticed how my inner state is affected by my environment.YOUR sentence:
>>>On the coast here we sometimes
>>>get a lot of wind blowing
>>>endlessly at your head. I find it puts me in my head.YOUR sentence:
>>>I absolutely hate Fridays at the moment . . . I can’t stand
>>>the energy, I spend the whole day trying to
>>>remain grounded while everyone.YOUR sentence:
>>>I find it difficult.The fact that YOU have a problem with the environment and you are griping about it IS your post. Normal folks don’t have a problem with the environment. Ungrounded folks do. IF your post had been asking about qi qualities of various things in the environment, it would be a different story. But I see no such questions in there at all, just you pontificating your ideas, which are ALL COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT if you are grounded and consequently not negatively affected by the environment, the context of the majority of the post. But everyone can go back and read your post as easily as I can. It’s all about YOUR problems with the environment, not just “qi in the environment, a interesting topic”.
But apparently your idea of a reply is for someone to ignore all the problems you are posting, and just provide validation for you for your narcissistic ideas on the environment and nature. OK, thanks for the clarifying it for everyone.
>>>The alternative I suggest to you,
>>>is communicating without agenda, being present.It’s ironic how this is actually very fitting advice for you.
Maybe you might try your own advice.
When someone feels motivated to respond to your post, you might try actually listening to what is being said, rather than attacking the person with ignorant arrogant comments because it is not the response you were looking for. Although I’d be shocked if anyone wants to respond to any of your posts now, given how you attack people that give a genuine response if it is not the reply you were looking for in your mind. But good luck on your future threads, nonetheless.S
September 17, 2015 at 11:01 am #44790rideforeverParticipantChill out man
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