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June 1, 2008 at 10:51 am #5422FacelessMageParticipant
I see your point but i was only talking about things the way i understood them, it is not in any way meant to represent falun dafa. Check out falun dafa on the website http://www.falundafa.org it’s Free on there
June 1, 2008 at 10:55 am #5424FacelessMageParticipantAgain for this and all my posts, there were simply my view of things which i forgot to mention.
As far as i understand things, one isn’t supposed to talk about falun dafa without using the founder of falun dafa’s original words or without saying that what you’re talking about is only your understanding of falun dafa etc.
So don’t regard anything i made in those posts as being what falun dafa teaches, get your own opinion from falun dafa. It’s Free on the website http://www.falundafa.orghere’s one of those post i was talking about:
The falun never stops rotating and collecting energy and transforming virtue nito gong.
however, based on what mr li said, it is not neceaasry to do the chi kung forms as long as you consider yourself a student of falun dafa and maintain a high xing xing ( mind nature ). but the exerciese serve to strengthen your gong potency and if you don’t do them it might take much longer for you to ascend in cultivation.June 1, 2008 at 10:59 am #5426FacelessMageParticipantAgain for this and all my posts, there were simply my view of things which i forgot to mention.
As far as i understand things, one isn’t supposed to talk about falun dafa without using the founder of falun dafa’s original words or without saying that what you’re talking about is only your understanding of falun dafa etc.
So don’t regard anything i made in those posts as being what falun dafa teaches, get your own opinion from falun dafa. It’s Free on the website http://www.falundafa.orgHere’s one of thise posts i was talking about:
Yo
i wasn’t trying to speak as if i’ve proved all the knowledge myself. i just don’t forget most things and regard cultivation as the most important thing in my life and am very dedicated but not attached to it.
now i’m an x-daoist ( HT adept )
and now a practitioner of falun gong
i only started practicing it 3 days ago
and i’m not lying when i say this, but when i did the falun heavelny circuit and moved the hands over my head it feels as if heat is being generated back there, and we have to to those movements nine times. also mr li said he planted energy mechanisms in us. i believe i have felt it while doing the exercise called strengthening the divine powers. it felt as if something was pushing my hand in the position it was supposed to be in while doing the practices, and i could tell you that this wasn’t my subconcious doing this since i was aware of what was happening around me.
also after doing the exerciese since i started 4 days ago, it feels as if heat literally is circultaing through me, first from the jade pillow, then to the sides of my neck, then arms by the elbows on the outside, then below my jaw, then under my feet, then on my chest. and it the sensation i am getting right this moment feels as if pepper was rubbed on my skin or acid that would burn but wouldn’t dissolve anything were puured on me. and also along with the mind nature recquirement of truthfullness, compassion and forebearance, i feel myself closer to the budda c=schools’a emptiness and the tao school’s nothingness. most of the attachments and thing s centered arounf personal gain and happiness i have already let go of. it’s like upon realizing that i have to imporve my mind that i suddenly started trying my best to elliminate all attachments without making doing so an attachment. for example, just last yesterday i suddenly having all these weird thoughts like killing people by torturing them with supernatural powers, about becoming like dragon ball z characters and flying around, about being impatient all the time, about lust for girls, about hating ordinary people in general and other negative things. but upon remembering that i cultivate the great law i can’t have those kind of thoughts, i instantly let go of them. when i woke up, which would be today, i’ve for most part of the day been in the state of active non doing with a clear mind. i believe you daoist call it pooh way ( wu wei )
welll what do you think about all this ? i am only 18 years old )
——————————————————————————–June 1, 2008 at 11:02 am #5428FacelessMageParticipantAgain for this and all my posts, there were simply my view of things which i forgot to mention.
As far as i understand things, one isn’t supposed to talk about falun dafa without using the founder of falun dafa’s original words or without saying that what you’re talking about is only your understanding of falun dafa etc.
So don’t regard anything i made in those posts as being what falun dafa teaches, get your own opinion from falun dafa. It’s Free on the website http://www.falundafa.org
Here’s one of thise posts i was talking about:i don’t know about that
but don’t mix HT stuff with falun dafa.
doing so will deform the falun
it’s like driving a car on stick shift and auto at the same time. both methods work but together they can’t do anything and will make you get nowhere.( i mean mixing of 2 different cultivation methods)June 1, 2008 at 11:10 am #5430FacelessMageParticipantFor this post made by the Cessation.
I can’t really talk about that stuff but i’ll say that if you’re going to practice falun dafa after reading that stuff that you should remember to not take in messages from other cultivation ways. That’s the way i understand things from falun dafa.
As for the Cessation, your post does have messages from other cultivation ways.
So for all the people who use this website that want to get into falun dafa, the way i understand things is that you shouldn’t regard any of that stuff about early heaven shen etc as being what falun dafa teaches and that you should get your own opinion through studying falun dafa. It’s free on the website http://www.falundafa.orgHere’s the post i was talking about:
AARRRGGGHHHH!!!
I forgot to mention that I was an X-HT adept too!! I nearly got a Master Certificate from Mantak Chia but later decided against the idea as this certificate was discouraged by Michael Winn!! Iยve also done about 10 years of Indian Yoga and Sharmanic practices. It must be the FALUN GONG form that was so powerful that it spontaneously activated some old shen memories from early heaven. Shen also carries memories of past lives from my experience!!!!!
BTW, this morning was the first time I do the form in my life and actually I did it again just now and the same thing happened again but instead of the pakua I saw a rotating FALUN inside my belly. In the middle of the FALUN I thought I saw Master Li this time. It looks like him though.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace out!!!!!!!!!!
June 1, 2008 at 11:20 am #5432FacelessMageParticipantHere’s my response to your post matt.
I’m not faceless because i of seeking anything. I am FacelessMage because i think it’s a cool name over ChaosMage
As far as that stuff about not being allowed to say what Master Li says without directly quoting him, it was just my understanding of things, it has absolutely nothing to do with serving anyone as in calling the Master, my understanding of this subject was simply that one isn’t supposed to say things without quoting Mr Li ( the founder of falun dafa ) because what one says reflects things that belongs to the realm of understanding on whatever level you are on and such things may later turn out to be wrong and if so and you say it, damage could be caused to falun dafa.
That’s just my understanding of things.
Also, for the last part of your post when you said this
“A true Master will help you to develop your OWN realtionship with that which is as opposed to developing dependence on them / worship of them or their system.it is not to be considered true because Mr Li says that if you don’t want to learn his falun dafa that you don’t have to and that it’s up
you are faceless because you have not come into your own “face” you are still seeking this out and will listen to many about these deep experiences, especially those who appear powerful. You are young. Look at what you say and reflect on it. Things like “I am not allowed to say what Master says without directly qouting him” or something about planting energy mechanisms in you.
You give everything away to this Master and these things he has created and claims to have the say on. The issue I see with this is that you are not being taught to find these things independant of coming from someone else or based on what someone else is telling you. A true Master will help you to develop your OWN realtionship with that which is as opposed to developing dependence on them / worship of them or their system.
That is what is coming to me from the two posts I read of yours and your continous need to post about Falun.
Take it or leave it ๐
Inner Peace,
Matt
June 1, 2008 at 11:29 am #5434FacelessMageParticipantI have to do this post over because i accidentally pressed the enter button before i finished the post and it got posted wihout me saying something important in the last part.
Here’s my response to your post matt.
I’m not faceless because of seeking anything. I am FacelessMage because i think it’s a cool name over ChaosMage
As far as that stuff about not being allowed to say what Master Li says without directly quoting him, it was just my understanding of things, it has absolutely nothing to do with serving anyone as in calling them Master, my understanding of this subject was simply that one isn’t supposed to say things without quoting Mr Li ( the founder of falun dafa ) because what someone says reflects things that belongs to their realm of understanding on whatever level they are on and such things may later turn out to be wrong and if so and you say it, damage could be caused to falun dafa.
That’s just my understanding of things.
Also, for the last part of your post when you said this:
“A true Master will help you to develop your OWN realtionship with that which is as opposed to developing dependence on them / worship of them or their system.”My understanding of falun dafa is that what you said is not to be considered true because according to what i remember and understand, Mr Li says that if you don’t want to learn his falun dafa that you don’t have to and that it’s up to an individual to decide what they want to do.
Matt here’s the post you made that i was talking about:
you are faceless because you have not come into your own “face” you are still seeking this out and will listen to many about these deep experiences, especially those who appear powerful. You are young. Look at what you say and reflect on it. Things like “I am not allowed to say what Master says without directly qouting him” or something about planting energy mechanisms in you.
You give everything away to this Master and these things he has created and claims to have the say on. The issue I see with this is that you are not being taught to find these things independant of coming from someone else or based on what someone else is telling you. A true Master will help you to develop your OWN realtionship with that which is as opposed to developing dependence on them / worship of them or their system.
That is what is coming to me from the two posts I read of yours and your continous need to post about Falun.
Take it or leave it ๐
Inner Peace,
Matt
June 1, 2008 at 11:32 am #5436FacelessMageParticipantAgain for this and all my posts, there were simply my view of things which i forgot to mention.
As far as i understand things, one isn’t supposed to talk about falun dafa without using the founder of falun dafa’s original words or without saying that what you’re talking about is only your understanding of falun dafa etc.
So don’t regard anything i made in those posts as being what falun dafa teaches, get your own opinion from falun dafa. It’s Free on the website http://www.falundafa.org
Here’s one of those posts i was talking about:yo i don’t depend on anyone for anythiong
it’s just that falun gong practicioners have to say that their words are from the falun gong books . because if we don’t mr li’s law bodies will take the falun and energy mechanisms away from usJune 8, 2008 at 12:54 pm #5438FacelessMageParticipantwhat i posted was ONLY my understanding of things, it doesn’t represent the teachings of falun dafa, you can check it out on the website http://www.falundafa.org it’s FREE on there.
here;s the post i was talking about :
i don’t know about that
but don’t mix HT stuff with falun dafa.
doing so will deform the falun
it’s like driving a car on stick shift and auto at the same time. both methods work but together they can’t do anything and will make you get nowhere.( i mean mixing of 2 different cultivation methods)June 8, 2008 at 12:56 pm #5440FacelessMageParticipantwhat i posted was ONLY my understanding of things, it doesn’t represent the teachings of falun dafa, you can check it out on the website http://www.falundafa.org it’s FREE on there.
here;s the post i was talking about :
yo i don’t depend on anyone for anythiong
it’s just that falun gong practicioners have to say that their words are from the falun gong books . because if we don’t mr li’s law bodies will take the falun and energy mechanisms away from us.June 8, 2008 at 12:56 pm #5442FacelessMageParticipantwhat i posted was ONLY my understanding of things, it doesn’t represent the teachings of falun dafa, you can check it out on the website http://www.falundafa.org it’s FREE on there.
here;s the post i was talking about :
yo i don’t depend on anyone for anythiong
it’s just that falun gong practicioners have to say that their words are from the falun gong books . because if we don’t mr li’s law bodies will take the falun and energy mechanisms away from us.June 8, 2008 at 12:59 pm #5444FacelessMageParticipantwhat i posted was ONLY my understanding of things, it doesn’t represent the teachings of falun dafa, you can check it out on the website http://www.falundafa.org it’s FREE on there.
here’s the post i was talking about :
lol
yo that’s strange.
i started before you and i haven’t had that kind of experience. i ahve felt the energy mechanisms and felt the falun rotating when doing the second exercise. but i haven’t opened the celestial eye yet since i just started practicing last week. maybe you see the falun because you have high xing xing and good virtuesJune 8, 2008 at 1:02 pm #5446FacelessMageParticipantwhat i posted was ONLY my understanding of things, it doesn’t represent the teachings of falun dafa, you can check it out on the website http://www.falundafa.org it’s FREE on there.
here’s the post i was talking about :
Yo
i wasn’t trying to speak as if i’ve proved all the knowledge myself. i just don’t forget most things and regard cultivation as the most important thing in my life and am very dedicated but not attached to it.
now i’m an x-daoist ( HT adept )
and now a practitioner of falun gong
i only started practicing it 3 days ago
and i’m not lying when i say this, but when i did the falun heavelny circuit and moved the hands over my head it feels as if heat is being generated back there, and we have to to those movements nine times. also mr li said he planted energy mechanisms in us. i believe i have felt it while doing the exercise called strengthening the divine powers. it felt as if something was pushing my hand in the position it was supposed to be in while doing the practices, and i could tell you that this wasn’t my subconcious doing this since i was aware of what was happening around me.
also after doing the exerciese since i started 4 days ago, it feels as if heat literally is circultaing through me, first from the jade pillow, then to the sides of my neck, then arms by the elbows on the outside, then below my jaw, then under my feet, then on my chest. and it the sensation i am getting right this moment feels as if pepper was rubbed on my skin or acid that would burn but wouldn’t dissolve anything were puured on me. and also along with the mind nature recquirement of truthfullness, compassion and forebearance, i feel myself closer to the budda c=schools’a emptiness and the tao school’s nothingness. most of the attachments and thing s centered arounf personal gain and happiness i have already let go of. it’s like upon realizing that i have to imporve my mind that i suddenly started trying my best to elliminate all attachments without making doing so an attachment. for example, just last yesterday i suddenly having all these weird thoughts like killing people by torturing them with supernatural powers, about becoming like dragon ball z characters and flying around, about being impatient all the time, about lust for girls, about hating ordinary people in general and other negative things. but upon remembering that i cultivate the great law i can’t have those kind of thoughts, i instantly let go of them. when i woke up, which would be today, i’ve for most part of the day been in the state of active non doing with a clear mind. i believe you daoist call it pooh way ( wu wei )
welll what do you think about all this ? i am only 18 years old )June 8, 2008 at 1:08 pm #5448FacelessMageParticipantwhat i posted was ONLY my understanding of things, it doesn’t represent the teachings of falun dafa, you can check it out on the website http://www.falundafa.org it’s FREE on there.
here;s the post i was talking about :
wasn’t that ancient saying supposed to be
” the chi flows where the mind goes” ????June 8, 2008 at 1:09 pm #5450FacelessMageParticipantwhat i posted was ONLY my understanding of things, it doesn’t represent the teachings of falun dafa, you can check it out on the website http://www.falundafa.org it’s FREE on there.
here;s the post i was talking about :
what are you talking about? i’m not allowed to say what master li says without quoting him. and the practices only serve to strengthen your gong so it is not necessary to do is as falun never stops rotating, you just will take longer to reach consumation. but it is ok if you don’t do the practices as long as you watch your xing xing ( mind nature ) and always consider yourself a practitioner of falun gong.( from mr li’s book zhuan falun, not exactly as stated but i haven’t left out anything in relation to the question )
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