July 7, 2005 at 3:12 pm #6261
What is your opinion on connection between Falungun and Taoism?
http://falundafa.org.ua/characteristics?did=39July 11, 2005 at 12:21 pm #6262
Falung Gong is Banned
Morning Edition, July 22, 1999 · Host Bob Edwards talks with NPR’s Mary Kay Magistad about the Chinese government’s decision to ban a quasi-religious sect known as Falung Gong. The sect staged mass protests throughout China over the past three days.July 11, 2005 at 2:44 pm #6264
FALUN GONG & FALUN DAFA
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What it is, what it does, and
why the Chinese government is so terrified of it
Falun Dafa is a largely spiritual movement that incorporates:
Qigong: body, mind and physical exercise, and
However, the Falun Dafa is taught as more than this; it is seen a way of life. 1
The movement has experienced horrendous levels of persecution in China.
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Introduction: Terminology, symbol, texts, beliefs, web sites, books.
History of Falun Dafa
Is Falun Dafa a cult?
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Religious oppression in China
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Go to the previous page, or return to “Religions and Ethical Systems”, or choose:July 11, 2005 at 6:06 pm #6266
I personally htink it is a great thing that the CHinese government has banned Falun Dafa in China. Why? Because of the Falun Dafa were really who they say they are they would not be politically involved in their movements. No need for it. I mean come on. They were told to keep their practices and public statements low key but they decided to practise big time in Tianamen Square. So what do you expect. I do not htink the so called founder of this religious sect even lives in China anymore. And from what I know of it an energetic symbol is placed in the student and activated. So how would you like to walk around with a transmitting signal in your dantian for “who knows what?” Has anyone ever thought of that. Exactly what are you hooked up to.
I can tell you one thing … my skin literally wants to craw off my flesh anytime I stand next to one of the Falun Dafa. Just fricking freaks me out. And you know what … that’s my higher self telling me things aren’t so right there and you know what? …. I believe that. Basically I am about 85 to 90% right in little shivers messages. And when I get the skin crawling off the flesh … I would give that 100%.
YOu know this whole energetic things isn’t just about us on this plane. It is about a whole lot of energetic pushes and powers. And not all of them are kosher to the whole and healthy evolution of the human being on this planet. Want to be a robot. Go right ahead.
Me…. I’m keeping my skin and my “I am”.
I wish you could feel what I feel when I encounter these guys. Darndest feeling and if I could reach in and release all of those who hold that sign inside I would. But it is hteir choice. And some people just don’t know any better. They just do not know at all. That is the problem isn’t it. People working for salvation will do almost anything, anything that is easier than seeing what is truly inside of them.
There are no short cuts. None.
Swastika sign. Somehow that sign and Hitler and others …….just seem to resound in like.
Think about it.July 12, 2005 at 12:02 pm #6268
Thank you for your opinion, I also do not like this unneccessary Hitler’s swastica symbol which implies an analogy with NAZI(CHINESE???). Nevertheless, The opening of the third eye in falung gong should not be forbidden itself to my opinion. As well as Japanese elite AI-KI-DO which also operates with dantian qi-energy directly analogous to FALUN energy from the Universe to the centre of mass of human body (i.e.,dantian!)
Ans USA Goverment also support Falung Dafa? See http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/special_column/recognition.html
http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/special_column/recognition.htmlJuly 12, 2005 at 2:55 pm #6270
Correct me. The sign itself is from Buddhism and has nothing do to with Hitler… Hitler made use of this symbol and swapped it the other way round…
HarryJuly 12, 2005 at 8:34 pm #6272
I have heard about the Buddhist signature sign and I have also heard about the Hitler Swastika sign of course. And statements of how the Swastika was changed around/corrupted by Hitler. I wonder if there ever was any research done with Hitler’s history and qigong/energetic practise. I believe that I read something of that sort … along those lines anyways in a different context then qigong of course. Not sure. Wasn’t interested in giving that part of hx any more energy.
Opening the third eye, sure …. but I do believe opening the third eye can be done without depositing a Falun in your dantien. Uneducated people, in this and other information can be too easily swayed into such things. I know for a fact though that opening your 3rd eye should open you to the universe and should not create dependency on a falun or its founder. This I KNOW. Go ahead, talk to someone who has a falun in their dantien, .. before you go to talk to them, write some questions down, get their answers. I can bet you that 99% of their answers are Falun Gong based. Their vision has narrowed not opened. Difference. Energy travels thru falun: equals distortion, dependency, disruption in natural process, cohersion. Please don’t belittle the human being in believing that to open the third eye a falun deposited in the dantian is necessary. The human being has far greater potential than that. However I bleieve that once connected to the falun your potential is shortened by quite a bit. AND… has anyone ever spoken with someone who belonged to Falun Dafa for a few years and changed their mind and heart intent and decided they did not want to do it anymore and are now following a different path? I haven’t, but that doesn’t mean there hasn’t been I guess. Or maybe not.
Should be though, unless of course one’s free will and “I am” have been taken away or disrupted.
My thoughts entirely. At this time this is my opinion. My opinion only.July 12, 2005 at 10:07 pm #6274
I love it when rainbowbear starts firing her bullets filled with truth serum.
Short summary: Falun gong uses religious fear tactics to control their followers. Fear of following their own truth; if they do, even by practicing a taiji form or a different kind of qigong, the falun can be “taken away” or lost forever. These elements are played down in the west, but are there, and very strongly in china.
If you grow by fear, you will live by fear. Hence the karma of Falun gong in China. The communists can play the fear game too, and they have all the guns. Many innocents have suffered in China as a result of this. But the blood is equally on the hands of falun leadership.
michaelJuly 13, 2005 at 10:50 am #6276
He was initiated in OTO order.
He then destroyed it.
He erected new one.
He organized ceremonial intiations in his orders.
He organized ceremonial masses on grand scale.
Energy tranfers, feeding the gods, evoking the gods and commonplace rituals were all present.
All practices were thought out.
A civilization in a way.July 14, 2005 at 1:28 pm #6278
I also have an uneasy feeling when I read about and encounter Falun Dafa practitioners. It reminds me of the feeling that I had years ago conversing with a couple of Mormons on my doorstep. I didn’t feel like I was talking to individuals, and any real questions I asked were just passed over.
I have to disagree about the swastika sign though. Its an ancient symbol of the sun (chakra) going back to Hindu times at least. Its also a universal symbol associated with the runes. Hitler took this symbol and others such as the SS insignia (which represents lightning) and perverted it’s meaning. That does not invalidate the true meaning of these symbols or the runes for that matter. Many authentic runemasters in Germany who did not go along with the perverted Nazi ideology were sent to their deaths in concentration camps.
Condemnation by association is a gut reaction and an unjustified one.July 14, 2005 at 1:45 pm #6280
If you want to learn something about authentic runic “yoga” and martial arts (yes!) go to
This organisation was set up by a descendant of a Norwegian noble family, who claims that his family were powerful enough to retain their traditions of runic practice, meditation, martial arts throught the Christian persecutions which wiped out the western equivalents of chi kung across Europe. He also spent a great deal of time in Japan and became a high level practitioner of Jojutsu and was able to compare the two systems.
Their are some worthwhile articles – for example the western equivalent of jing and chi – Mott(might) Megin (main – yes mains as in electricity!)
and also the stav stances which bear a striking resemblance to standing meditations.
I stress that this system was in existence before the silly Germanic revivals of the early 20th century and to me bears the hallmarks of authenticity. There are no rules to follow, just a knowledgeable man sharing what he has before the wisdom dies away.July 16, 2005 at 10:36 am #6282
I totally agree Karen, I once walked by a couple of them doing there ‘thing’ and I felt their energy allover my body. I stepped back to them because I was interested in their practice but they looked as being on a different planet. Although I was interested in their energy level, I was not planning to get myself in that kind of ‘unreal’ ‘robotic (like you suggest) state’. It is like they looked completely surrendered to something which was using their body as vessels.It is appealing because of the tremendous amount of energy they are generating but…no thanks. I once had my share and it takes a lot of work to get yourself out of it.
Being here in this little Spanish town we are lucky to enjoy 10 days of festivities for the local saints. Twice a day the town is full with tremendous noise of fireworks. At night just super, last night it was just mind blowing, like my children said, the night sky was just blown into pieces, we were zapped into a giant big bang of light and noise, which was echoed back by the mountains. All of the entities hanging around here must completely shocked and run off. 10 days of noise and light, exactly the amount of days ‘witchcraft’ is using to clear yourself from demons. I just love and enjoy this old tradition. And combined with the salt of the sea water and the sun, a perfect place to clear yourself from every bit of rubbish.
All the best to you Rainbow!!!July 19, 2005 at 5:26 am #6284
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