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For Pietro -On your Dissolving exposition

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  • May 22, 2006 at 3:28 am #14374
    Alexander Alexis
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    Aloha Pietro,

    Thanks very much for the carefully constructed answer. I appreciate you for sensing the importance of my question and answering it from that awareness. It feels complete and is helping me a lot.
    I remember that you said you had not studied Kan and Li, si?
    I wonder if you would find some root similarities in the process of it to dissolving. It seems to me that they would have to incorporate the same source energy to do their work since it is the presence of that source energy, yuan chi, which actually does the dissolving, a term which Michael uses extensively in his K & L teachings.
    Just a thought.

    Bye now, Alexander

    May 22, 2006 at 2:08 pm #14375
    Alexander Alexis
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    “You are still using the HT frame of reference to understand something that as I told you is (or at least feels) different: “incorporate the same source energy”, “it is the presence of that source energy”, “which actually does the dissolving”. All this tells me about your frame of reference.”

    That is part of my frame of reference. Maybe a large part. But there is more underneath.

    “Please wait until you have some first hand knowledge.”

    I understand what you mean here. I cannot come to any conclusions at the moment about it. I am not expecting to. I’m exploring and looking for leads.

    “You can’t explain to a kid how it is to make love. You can’t explain to a non energy meditator how it is to use the energy in your meditation.”

    Maybe I’m misinterpreting your intention here, but this sounds condescending.

    “If you look at the 16 nei gung system dissolving is one point (number 5), separate points from the other points.”
    ‘5. Dissolving, releasing and resolving all blockages of the physical, emotional and spiritual sides of oneself.’

    Yes? So?

    “There is a reason why I avoided to describe how it feels. Which is precisely not to have you have a mental image about what it is to ‘get it right’ (assuming that I do get it right).”

    “Getting it right” is determined by the results you achieve. It is not so much a mental image for me but a feeling of the act of alchemizing. Perhaps I am mistaken in making the assumption that all true alchemizing feels the same; that there is a clear feeling-experience to true alchemizing of issues that is the only one possible. Perhaps you mean to say that you know that there is more than one. I’ll keep an open mind.

    “Just don’t feel this vacuum with your previous personal experiences.”

    I don’t understand your use of the word “vacuum” here.

    Thanks, Alexander

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